Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
“Just as there are Christian academies that provide education based on a religious foundation for those parents who choose it for their kids, we need Western Acadamies that teach (for lack of a better phrase) true history from a Western perspective.”
Your Christian private schools, military academies, and home schools are largely already in your camp. Build on that foundation.
As it’s also possible for someone to overmark the ballot and void it too... but that’s an age old issue. The write in ballots I’ve seen on optical ballots have a bubble mark to fill in to indicate that you are using them. The optical tallyer would flag that there is something that needs to be looked at by hand.
‘What is Romney giving up? “
Honestly, I do think the public stands he has had to take will keep him at least somewhat in line if he wants re-election.
I don’t mean to be Pollyanna, and I’m not enthusiastic, but I do think conservatives and tea partiers have had their influence.
If public schools still taught kids to read, it might be possible to have supplemental books that parents could furnish to their kids, books which would “fill in the holes” left by lie-berals in school texts.
half the people Posting here are closeted Daily Kos Members.
There seemed to be a dust-up in Mitt’s campaign committee about that gay national security spokesman — the spokesman never complained about Mitt when he left. Someone with sense seems to still be in there.
But if Mitt seeks out yes-men, pure chaos will result.
“So my first question is, why aren’t we Freepers supporting him? I understand his foreign policy seems a bit odd. But even George Washington cautioned against getting involved with foreign wars. Some think he’s anti-mililtary, but he’s not. His record shows that he’s anti-waste in military spending and military use.”
Mr. Paul wants to close down all our military bases around the world. He wants homosexuals to serve openly in the military. He wants a defense-only, Swiss-type foreign policy. He supports the rights of states to do such things as legalize every drug, including the hard drugs such as heroin. He blames the U.S. for pushing Muslims into 9/11. He rejects political support of Israel. He is a proud member of a party that supports legalized prostitution, all forms of legalized gambling, and any and all types of public porn. This results in such marvels as him declaring Bradley Manning a “patriot.”
I’d rather have Obama. At least Obama has to keep up some appearance of sanity.
“Thanks to Lincoln the butcher and the statist Yankees who followed that goon, we are all slaves of the state and states rights is dead. “
I know this isn’t my argument, but I’d like to say I hold the South equally responsible for the loss of states’ rights (which I sorely wish we still had.) Their insistence on enslaving their fellow man lost all of us our freedoms.
Freedom is for a moral people. If it’s going to be abused like that, it gets lost.
Now maybe you never sold a child from his mama or beat a man until his flesh hung from his back. Perhaps you never hobbled an escapee or used a black teen girl as a brood mare.
But the South fought for its right to do these things and more, and it was evil, and if they had backed off, the Civil War, in my opinion, would not have happened.
I have often thought that perhaps in the future conservatives should consider onganizing better so that we dont have so many conservatives splitting up the conservative vote allowing a moderate republican to win the nomination. I dont know how that would be done.
“More importantly, we have the first election in decades where the Democrat is running as a self-acknowledged undiluted leftist.”
If anyone doubts this, check out the “Julia” Obama campaign website. It’s creepy and over-the-top PR for cradle-to-grave welfare-statism.
Alas, the genie of staying isolated, with two comfortably large oceans to separate from the chaos of the old world, has forever left the bottle. Modern transport and modern weapons and modern remote forces that hear from their homeland via modern communication eat up that space like nothing, and the Middle East might as well be our next door neighbor. Also with great trade comes great economic interdependence (even if China wasn’t an issue). A gaping hole in Paul’s take on libertarianism.
The drug issue, and many would disagree with me, is a tiger being held by the tail. Less drug-related ruin would have ensued to society had the traditional physician moderated prescription model been kept for all potent pharmaceuticals, even acetylmorphine (heroin).
I’m trying to figure out how to continue the battle too Jim. I think the war aginst Romney, the GOPe and the Left starts the day after the election. We just need to hunker down and get ourselves better financed while we bide our time.
There is literally no place to rub (trust me, I’ve looked) so we just have to understand this is long campaign. 40 years.
Julia is a joke that Obama has told on himself, and he doesn’t even know it yet.
If we cant say these things on this forum it will continue to decline in membership.
Brilliant post. Too bad you are probably going to get banned for it. And me too for agreeing. But it needed to be said.
I cannot describe how sad it is to watch FR decline as it has in the past year or so, and especially in the last few months. And to see so many earnest freepers get booted for stating the obvious just makes me ill. It's like a ghost town around here now.
While the perfect conservatives have insisted on a Ronald Reagan, Chairman ObamMao is making himself comfortable for four more years.
Our country will be unrecognizable after that. And FR will be long gone, probably by Executive Order.
“For them to not give Palin the time of day shows just how screwed up they are.”
She chose not to run. They didn’t prevent her.
There was no war. No-one really needs more than 5 bits to represent a character.
EBCDIC was good enough, even though it used 8 bits.
The slavery of the South wasn’t the slavery that was tolerated if not condoned by the New Testament, either (into which the slave entered voluntarily). It was chattel slavery, fed by internecine kidnapping in Africa, trafficked by Islamic Arabs, and enforced by a convenient but artificial distinction made towards Negro peoples. If you were a Negro in one of those states back then and didn’t have papers showing you were free, they assumed you were a slave. Absolutely despicable. Karma (figuratively speaking) was a St. Bernard sized bitch.
I've heard the exact same lament when Clinton was being re-elected because the GOP-E put up Dole.
Overstate things much?
A telling statistic for me is that in all the primaries, the GOP-e candidate never got 50% of the vote. Yet he is the nominee.
What does that tell you?