Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
Truce or no truce, I’m still not voting for Romney.
Truce? Paint me skeptical - and you know exactly why Jim. Maybe people CAN change ... except Romney of course. :-)
We’ll have to wait to see if the combination of the GOP-E and the “Never-Romney” conservatives shackles us with another 4 years of the most damaging President in history. Nevertheless, I hope FR can survive this election cycle.
I only use Visa debit and it never fails.
“And that means that I won’t be voting for Romney.”
It appears to me that you have fallen for the “Perot Gambit”, guaranteeing that Obama will stay in the Oval Office.
I've heard it said that one of the key offices is your local Sheriff. Having a man of character that can refuse an order because of conscience due to an immoral order from a superior is quite beneficial. Even if the most he can do is give you a call ahead of time to "let you know he's been ordered to "visit" you."
May Peace Reign Here at/in FReeperLand. We owe it to each other.
Amen to that.
we are even trying to get host to do their radio shows on location.......
If the GOP wants my vote, they need to put a conservative forward. Period.
Very well said. We must continue to fight and devote our resources where they will truly count. Keeping the House (hopefully increasing the conservative majority), and re-taking the Senate should be our goals. In addition, we should strive for a veto-proof Senate... that’s a stretch goal, but we should certainly go for it.
Thanks much, Jim, for leading the fight. Your wisdom on what we should do is spot-on. Retreat in the face of an over-whelming enemy is not surrender; rather, the result will be to save and grow our resources for the bigger fight!
The fact we all here dislike Obama is unquestionable, but those of us who realize what a disaster he will be with 4 more years will logically vote to remove him and at least have a CHANCE for sane executive decisions being made.
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It is not unquestionable, based on the number of I times we have been called ‘democrat plants’.
I realize the disaster Obama will be in the next 4 years, but Romney will be the SAME disaster. I’m voting against BOTH of them.
I will never ever vote for Romney, I cannot in good conscience. It is the GOPs fault if we lose not mine, because they should never have let a RINO liar get this far.
I’m a conservative, not a Republican.
Now is not the time for your bile!
Please read my post #261 and then elaborate on your meaning here. Thanks.
Yes, we do need to fight to save the Republic!
Heartsob abort. Grassroots activities re-engage in 3...2..1. God bless you, Jim.
We have fallen under the stupor that Obama will be the Democrat candidate, when most of us know he is probably ineligible for the U.S. presidency, and/or is so guilty of egregious Constitutional violations, that in a sane world his future would be void.
One direction we can direct our energies is standing on our representatives, and those with influence who can carry our voices to a place of power, for the total exposure of this unconstitutional cretin. Sheriff Joe is one such voice, we can and should add to it with hundreds of thousand of amplified protests in unison. Obama doesn't have to be an option if the truth can prevail.
We need to be opening our mouths and our wallets, not just for conservative candidates, but for the effort to expose, indict, and expel this fraud. We also need to begin walking with our wallets away from those organizations which perpetuate this facade of "truth." It will be work and it will be costly, but unless economic ramifications are felt by the Leftist organizations, both corporate and individually, in this country, they will continue with their demonic agenda.
I understand your feelings - a while back I posted to the same effect. However, it has become clear to me in the last few months that the stuff hitting the fan won't just be a depression; Obama has waged war on Christians and has consorted with our enemies to undermine the security of the country. I could weather a depression; I can't weather the destruction of Israel, a nuclear Iran, a nuclear-armed North Korea with long range missiles and the spectre of millions of Americans murdered at the hands of terrorists. I now see those things as possibilities with another 4 years of Obama.