Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
The supreme irony is that if Perot hadn't gone nutso in July 1992 and then dropped out, only to get back in mid-October, he most likely would have won in Nov. He had a solid lead in the mid-40s% range in most polling across May and June of 1992, which is more than enough to net you the needed EVs in a three-way race.
Please give some consideration to Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party.
Virgil Goode will do in Virginia for the Republicans what Ralph Nader did in Florida for the Democrats.
Virgil Goode won't get more than a fraction of a percent of the vote nationwide. However, in his home state of Virginia where he served as a congressman and has name recognition, he could pull 5%. A five point handicap to Romney in this alternating red/blue state will be devastating. If the Republicans lose Virginia, Obama will be President for four more years.
Think about it.
I may see that elusive unicorn but won’t be winning any lotteries. Last lottery I entered and won was the Draft.
Nice to have hope about Palin, though; isn’t it? One of my more pleasant thoughts.
OMG!! What part of his background did you overlook that you so easily believe his known lying tongue and flip flop ways - it permeates his background!
Correction: Had George H. W. Bushs not broken his No new taxes pledge, Bill Clinton would not have been elected.
>>Our last Civil War didn’t prevent national elections; this one will because of the utter chaos in the Democrat-controlled cities will prevent it.<<
There won’t be any weapons in the cities? Just who is going to be protecting these Democrats/communists?
I plan to. That's why I'm voting for Virgil Goode.
Oh wait, you meant I could only vote for the more conservative candidate from among the narrowly circumscribed set of candidates that you would like to restrict me to.
Even then, it's hard to tell from between Obama and Romney which is the "more conservative."
There is less incentive for a presumptive President Romney to care about that after being elected, though he ought to care about it at least for the sake of getting re-elected.
Anyhow, part of the Tea Party’s weakness is the lack of a nationally heard voice. Maybe there ought to be a Tea Party Network, if enough dollars can be drummed up to found one.
At the least, I’d urge protest voters to write in Sarah Palin.
If you haven’t seen it then you haven’t been paying attention.
That’s a great post.
We’ve been looking for a George-Washingon-type of President every since Read My Lips Bush. There is at least one potential candidate that fits the bill but has been blocked at every turn from getting in the Republican primary process this go-around.
I am too old to vote out of fear. The election in Nov. is a perfect opportunity to rid ourselves of the GOP-Whig Party. Romney knows he is killing the GOP, I know it and I know he knows I know it and he expects my vote. Think about it yourself.
Look. If you want the zot - keep pushing your FURP agenda. And in the meantime - consider what JR thinks of Paultards.....
By the way, same with Ron Paul. His insane foreign policy would be a threat to us and to our allies. He's not going to do well outside of Iowa anyway. Spam monkeys be damned!
Yes, Ron Paul is a whackjob nutcase Alex Jones truther. All 911 truthers can go straight to hell as far as Im concerned. You too if you push that crap.
Post that nutjob crap here on FR at your own peril. Im hereby giving the mods the greenlight to whack your account if and when you go over the line posting Ron Paul/whackjob truther nuttery.
Jim -- what's your stance toward FReepers like me who would like to actively campaign against him and urge readers/lurkers to consider voting third party in order to reject liberalism at the top of the party, and risk the possibility of Obama's re-election? I think people vastly overestimate Obama's threat to their freedoms, especially in a context of more conservatives elected to Congress and Obama winning a weak plurality (because of conservatives' rejection of liberal Romney) and entering office with a clear majority of Americans opposed to him.
In other words, as long as I keep it civil, is it okay if I campaign against Romney on FR?
The blame falls squarely on the GOP-E and their bashing conservatives (Rove, et al), dirty tricks, and mid-game rule changes.
I would think that Boehner needs to go, as well as the RNC leadership. That would be a good start towards taking back some ground.
I don't think they believe they need to go after conservative votes to win.
First, they know many conservatives will vote for Romney just to avoid a second Obama term.
Second, The current resident of the White House has been such a disaster, it should be a 40+ landslide for any GOP candidate.
Romney is going to win this thing. The only question is how much dirt he's going to kick in conservatives faces after he wins.