Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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I am a county Committee man and you are right.
A true Machiavellian would vote Romney for President and vote for Democrats for Senate/Congress.
Very wise and thoughtful, Jim. We are all in this together and must stand as one. We may not all be able to cast a vote for Romney but we can work hard to get Conservatives into local and state offices.
I was interviewed by NPR yesterday concerning the TEA Party, the GOP, and Gov. Romney. I said many of the things I’ve seen here today. It will air on All Things Considered, 3PM, CST, early next week. Conservatives will put Romney in or they won’t. I am all for keeping Obama OUT!!
>What entities do you expect to exist or come into existence, over the next four years, that will have the power to defeat a sitting Republican president?
We always have the power. What’s happening to Lugar and Hatch right now? Keep the pressure on and people informed. The difference now is that we have a alternative media that is vibrant and growing.
So true. I remember voting for Reagan with gusto. Twice. At 20 and 24 years of age.
"But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination... To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle."
We need to get as many Conservative Senators elected this November as possible, and we need to be ready to primary Romney next time around if he wins in November and turns out to be as bad as feared.
Too many Conservatives sat on their hands when Bush went off the rails, fearful of criticizing him because he was a Republican- that can't happen this time. We should make it clear the alternative to a bad Republican president in 2016 is not a Democrat... but a solid Conservative.
I suspect the truce means that, if you decide prior to the morning of November 6 that voting for Romney is prudent, all things considered, that you can stay.
I, too, am glad and pleased by Jim’s words and direction. Mitt Romney was not my choice at all, but......Obama is out to destroy our freedom, liberty, individualism and our magnificent country. Obama must not be re-elected!!! So....this “Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan” conservative is casting his vote for Mitt Romney. Hate to say it, again and again, but......ABO = “ANYBODY BUT OBAMA”. It is my fervent hope and prayer, that Freepers will heed the wise sage advice from the astute, pragmatic, strategic, Mr. Jim Robinson. Thanks, Jim!!!
Please give some consideration to Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party. For 2012, he is the conservative left standing. There is still a plethora of down-ticket races featuring good, conservative Republicans who deserve our support.
As for the Presidential ticket... yes, this round is lost to the GOP-e/Dem axis, BUT.. a strong statement could be made to the GOP-e schlubs the conservative movement has other options.
I agree. All independents, moderates, and conservatives should get behind Romney and beat Obama. Get conservative majorities in congress. Then the real work starts. Hold his feet to the fire, deal with the fallout as best we can, then work toward 2016.
Jim - good post. But unlike you, I will hold my nose and vote for Ronmey this fall if he’s the one with the R beside his name, for one reason, and one reason only. And it goes to one of the points you made about why Romeny is no conservative: appointing liberal judges.
I can live with, and I think the nation can survive with the centrist to somewhat liberal judges that Romney would likely appoint (tho’ I would much rather be pleasently surprised.) I know our nation won’t survive four more years of the Marxist appointments that Obimbo has made.
Keep the House, take the Senate and may the conservatives hold Ronmey’s feet to the fire.
I will be interested in the answer to your question, since I am supporting Paul over Romney in the Texas Primary. But I don’t want to get banned like so many others for saying nice things about Paul on FR.
I will vote for Mitt Romney even though I don't like him, because it takes time for a new president to get sufficiently entrenched in the presidency to do a great deal of damage. Obama and his followers have hurt America, and they will do even more now that they have their plans and people in place. I will vote for Romney to get rid of Obama, then to work to get an American who understands and adheres to the Constitution to replace Romney.
Personally IMO, and FReepers certainly may disagree with me, I firmly believe what we have in the Presidency, Senate, House, and Judicial system is proof positive of the beginning of God's judgment on this nation for turning away from Him. This nation is no longer willing to repent, turn away from its increasingly wicked ways, and restore its faith and obedience in the Almighty Creator that gives us our unalienable rights in the first place.
Over the past couple of months my thinking has evolved on how I plan to vote. Firstly, I plan to vote FOR any candidate I believe exhibits true conservative principles. That part never changes. The part that has changed is where there is no conservative candidate to vote for. When you think about it, most every argument is framed in the context of who one plans to vote FOR. Well, from now on, I don't necessarily vote FOR one candidate over another. For the upcoming election and future elections, I've decided I will vote FOR conservative candidates. Where no such candidates exist, I will be casting my vote AGAINST the loathsome candidate that I absolutely refuse to be led by.
Others may see this as simply wordplay and that I'm still voting for the lesser of two evils. That's their opinion. Only I know the real reason I vote the way I do, and I will choose to vote AGAINST the evil that is currently destroying this nation at an increasing pace. May God have mercy on us in this upcoming election, although as a nation we no longer deserve it.
I think people on this forum should stop telling other people how do vote.
As you know, I am voting for Romney but it is none of my business who anyone else votes for. You can vote for Palin or Goode or Obama or even Hugo or Fidel for all I care.
Just one concern -
Does this mean I can’t call Romney a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey sh!t anymore?
Our focus should be on the house and senate when it comes to the federal government.
The January after every election cycle we need to:
These should be coordinated projects, not just wish lists.
While the presidency is the golden ring of American politics, we need to remember the power of the presidency can be greatly limited IF the congress is willing to fight like hell and do so.
I am heartbroken over the GOPe’s choice of Romney. I will never vote for him and am leaving the GOP (something I never thought I would do) because they have already left me.
I will be voting against BOTH Romney and Obama by voting for Virgil Goode (not perfect but at least conservative).
Keep on fighting, because we lose no matter who becomes POTUS.
JR, I was a Santorum supporter on these pages, dealt and absorbed some stings. Now we’re left with Romney, don’t tell me about a Constitution Party or Ron Paul, vote for Mitt, don’t ask me to volunteer or contribute, hopefully wait his term out, pressure Senators on appointments and the House on taxes and spending.
The mods were at all times during primary season proper and respectful to all; no truce is needed, JR.
That’s why I like it here.