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The state both parties want (Virginia)
Politico ^ | May 3, 2012 | Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:58 AM PDT by C19fan

The verdict is in: Barack Obama’s 2008 victory in Virginia was not a fluke. For the once reliably Republican state, competitive presidential elections are the new normal. Just look at the candidates’ schedules. President Obama will make Richmond the site of his kickoff campaign rally this Saturday and, as he often does, will motorcade across the Potomac on Friday for an official event in Northern Virginia, this one devoted to student loans at an Arlington high school. Mitt Romney has two stops in Virginia lined up this week, Wednesday in Northern Virginia and Thursday in Hampton Roads, and he will also be in Lynchburg to speak to graduates of Liberty University next week.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: obama; romney; virginia
/src on/As a Virginia resident I can't wait for the flood of robo-calls/src off/
1 posted on 05/04/2012 6:41:07 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Well, with the infestation of entitled government “workers” up north, it isn’t looking good.

It certainly would’ve helped for the GOP to nominate a viable candidate as well.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:26 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: C19fan

Must be maddening to live in that state and watch Obama trying to buy control of it by stuffing the Federal payrolls with NoVA residents.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Really bizaro world driving up to NoVa and DC. You can’t help notice all the construction going on. My sister and her family went to DC for a vacation and she commented on what appears to be the good times in DC metro with lots of Federal workers and other parasites looking happy and the shops filled with people. Her husband got pissed the bureaucrats taking what appears to be extended breaks watching the 747 carrying the Space Shuttle was doing loops around DC.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: ScottinVA

I’m a little late and I was going to say the same thing you noted in post #2, and “infestation” was the word I was going to use, but not only as regards government employees but to the many employees of the other organizations dependent on the government (the “Beltway Bandits”) that have grown up over the years.


5 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:47 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: C19fan

I thought the election in 2009 (governor?) showed a tenuous hold in VA for the Dems. In any case, this November Obama will have to campaign in every state. There are few if any states where the mlajority of voters would say they are better off 4 years ago (at least states that have a chance of voting Dem).


6 posted on 05/04/2012 6:51:41 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: C19fan

Va use to be one of my favorite states.


7 posted on 05/04/2012 6:55:12 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: kearnyirish2

“I thought the election in 2009 (governor?) showed a tenuous hold in VA for the Dems.”

It is a tenuous hold for the Dems and Obozo can be easily blitzkrieged into submission by certain powers that be manipulating the fragile economy into another downturn.


8 posted on 05/04/2012 6:56:49 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: C19fan

“and he will also be in Lynchburg to speak to graduates of Liberty University next week”

If I were a Liberty student I would boycott this.


9 posted on 05/04/2012 6:58:10 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: C19fan

Commencement at Va Tech this year is Moochele. The WH “muscled” their way in over Mark Warner for obvious reasons. (I know he isn’t much better) Certainly the world would’ve ended had Nancy, Barbara or Laura tried this.


10 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: C19fan

If it is politico it is hideous childish BS.


11 posted on 05/04/2012 7:08:43 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: albie

“muscled” their way in over Mark Warner for obvious reasons. (I know he isn’t much better)


You’re absolutely correct. Warner was fond of campaigning in 2008 as an “independent voice” in the Senate. He has voted nearly firewall in alignment with Obama, and is nothing more than a funny-sounding mouthpiece for the Regime. Problem is.. Warner is one of those “sainted ones” who can do no wrong.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:26 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: C19fan
The robo-calls have been out of hand around here the last 2 or 3 years. This guy Barker was so insistent with his calling I took to threatening to call the cops on door to door campaigners ~ it didn't work.

I still have half a dozen of them tied up in the basement, gags affixed, but the costs of feeding them are getting out of hand. What I don't understand is why the Democrats haven't reported these campaign workers missing. it's been a long time. They all need new clothes and showers with soap.

13 posted on 05/04/2012 7:20:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kearnyirish2
The 2009 vote was 1,163,523 votes for McDonnell, then a Republican, and 818,909 for Deeds, the Democrat.

The 2012 President primary shows Mitt Romney with 158,053 suporters (59.5%) and Ron Paul with 107,480 (40.5%)

As you can see, with no competition, and his supporters having a full field of play, Romney got about 13% of a normal Republican turnout in an off year election.

You don't win in swing states with that sort of popularity.

He hasn't improved since then.

I think the Washington Post poll said at least that but maybe some Freepers didn't realize how utterly unpopular Romney was and is in Virginia. About his only fan is that McDonnell guy ~ he's supposed to be a Conservative but apparently he was one of the principals in the scheme to keep all the other candidates off the Virginia ballot.

14 posted on 05/04/2012 7:30:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ScottinVA
The last Warner went out of office a drooler, but this Warner came into office a drooler.

Just one thing after another eh.

15 posted on 05/04/2012 7:31:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’m no advocate for Romney, but in November voters will have a choice between Romney & Obama (and I don’t believe Obama is so popular down there). I can’t think of a single state (including Illinois) where Obama wouldn’t have to campaign & spend tons to defeat Romney; he would have had to do that regardless of who wins the Republican nomination because so many people are worse off than before.

There has been no elections since 2008 in which Dems can take heart, while there is much cause for optimism for Republicans in the 2009 and 2010 elections.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 7:34:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: C19fan

“Obama’s 2008 victory in Virginia was not a fluke.”

NO, but it was a fraud. A very smart fraud. The BHO ‘08 campaign enlisted college students from unquestionably blue states to register and vote here. Thousands and thousands of them. That it violated state law about residency made no difference to then-Gov. Kaine and his cronies (and it surely won’t this year with Kaine on the ballot).

Why not? Their votes at home would not affect the election, but it would in VA. If our electoral boards don’t tighten up for the ‘12 election, VA could go blue again. It ain’t the natives doing it.


17 posted on 05/04/2012 7:42:03 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: kearnyirish2
"while there is much cause for optimism for Republicans in the 2009 and 2010 elections."

One would think the 2012 would be a slam dunk for anybody running against the failures and abuses of the current administration. Yet look at the electoral college math. The conventional wisdom is that the 0ne has 247 EV's locked in. He only has to win 23 additional votes for re-election. Demographics and values in VA and elsewhere are changing. We just fail to accept the trend as we view the nation through our Freeper tinted glasses.

18 posted on 05/04/2012 7:49:55 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: EDINVA

Agreed.


19 posted on 05/04/2012 7:51:00 AM PDT by iceskater (I am a Carnivore Conservative - No peas for me. (h/t N.Theknow))
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To: muawiyah

So true.

Could you imagine having to hear Mark Warner’s bizarre-sounding vocal cadence through an entire workday?


20 posted on 05/04/2012 7:57:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: buckalfa
One would think the 2012 would be a slam dunk for anybody running against the failures and abuses of the current administration.

...and then the GOP went and selected Mitt "Obama's a Nice Guy" Romney.

21 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: C19fan

As a Virginian of 40 years, Virginia is two states: one like Massachusetts up north - and the rest of the state.

Those on the Federal tit - and the rest of us.

Best thing Virginia could do is lop off the northern section and make the new state NoVA...but then that would give the libtards two more senators and a few congressmen......

It’s another world up there, and most of the rest of the state wants nothing to do with them....

Now, how to explain most of the rest of Virginia’s love for the Washington Redskins when they detest everything else up there? There’s no explanation for that....rational or emotional....


22 posted on 05/04/2012 7:59:38 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: C19fan

Silly article. Obama will win VA.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: C19fan
Okay in 2009 just 9 months after Obama took office the VA voters elected McDonnell as governor and he has made a name for himself as a real conservative who gets things done.

Then in the 2010 VA voters replaced I think 4 Democrats in the House with Republicans and voted in enough Republicans to takeover the State Government.

Jim Webb was a total disaster as a Senator and has decided not to run this fall so George Allen will be running again....Tim Kaine....which should be interesting.

So tell me again that Virginia can't go Republican.

24 posted on 05/04/2012 8:23:21 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: kearnyirish2

“I don’t believe Obama is so popular down there [VA]”

You have to factor in the explosion of the VA population thanks to the expansion of government and its contractors. Those folks seem to LOVE Obama.

In ‘08 there were more Obama bumper stickers at the Pentagon than there were McCain, similarly in ‘04, more JFnK than W. Get outside Northern VA (i.e., DC suburbs) and it’s a wholly different state. Alas, it is NOVA that dominates in the end.


25 posted on 05/04/2012 9:13:10 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: buckalfa

“The conventional wisdom is that the 0ne has 247 EV’s locked in. He only has to win 23 additional votes for re-election. Demographics and values in VA and elsewhere are changing. We just fail to accept the trend as we view the nation through our Freeper tinted glasses.”

I don’t quote polls or surveys (or have much faith in them); according to the situation “on the ground” Obama will have a very difficult time being re-elected. I’d love to know what is so much better over the last four years in those states making up his hypothetical 247 votes; is he really going to win more than Al Gore (who didn’t have fours years of failure around his neck)?

I’d like someone to explain to me how he’ll win Illinois; are that many people there content with the status quo? I based my opinion on what actually happened in 2009 and 2010 (when things were better than they are now); none of the media bastards called those outcomes, either.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 9:52:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
The Dems took heart in Romney's turnout in Virginia in the primary. He got 9% of what you would expect in a normal off-year election.

It was just him versus Ron Paul in a neck and neck competition and Ron nearly skunked him!

THings haven't changed.

BTW, a poll very similar to the Post poll on Romney/Obama reveals that Mourdock beats Lugar by 10 pts ~ see: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/richard-mourdock-up-ten-points-over-dick-lugar-in-new-poll/2012/05/04/gIQAsL4G1T_blog.html

27 posted on 05/04/2012 9:55:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EDINVA

Obama won NJ in 2008; by the time our governor’s race took place a year later most of the bumper stickers were gone and Dem Jon Corzine lost his job to a true tax-cutting TEA Partier (Chris Christie). We’ve lost thousands of teaching, police, and fire jobs since then, and Christie remains popular; Obama’s election was a fluke due to public misery and now that same factor will sink him.

FReepers think a lot of well-intentioned people were hoodwinked in 2008; I assure you they knew exactly what they were doing: They were voting against another term of Bush, and would have voted for anyone to make it so. They got what they voted for, and I’m sure they’re looking to do the same again (vote out the incumbent, regardless of affiliation).


28 posted on 05/04/2012 9:58:39 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: when the time is right
McDonnell turned out to be a faux Conservative.

He's prime Mittbot material and actually stood aside while Romney's campaign chairman, the Lt. Governor, connived with party officials to keep EVERYBODY ELSE out of the primary.

There you have it ~ Republican voters in Virginia are easily deceived but we did boycott that primary. Only Freepers saw through that nonsense.

Do you seriously imagine Romney can beat Obama with the same tactics?

29 posted on 05/04/2012 9:59:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EDINVA
It wasn't just college kids voting unlawfully. McCain lost in an Obama landslide ~ by 6% points.

The Republicans were simply crushed.

30 posted on 05/04/2012 10:02:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The Dems are terrified because “voter turnout” in any election doesn’t bode well for incumbents; they know that they gained nothing by Romney’s slog through the primaries. In the end, their empty suit has to convince people that he has more to offer than his opponent (ANY opponent), and as long as that person didn’t oversee what Obama did for the last four years they should win handily. Americans haven gotten much smarter in the last four years, but they know their standard of living has fallen significantly and they have gotten more angry.

The logic that got Obama elected will cost him his job; he has nothing to say, and has been exposed as an un-American affirmative action Bolshevik. Broken down into simplest form, what could ANY American hope to gain by voting for Obama? Besides the thumb in the eye that urban blacks may want to give the whites that feed, clothe, and house them, what over the last four years would convince anyone else to do it?


31 posted on 05/04/2012 10:05:54 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: muawiyah

In ‘08 I saw a neighborhood kid, fully mentally challenged, brought to the polls by an O van, with the aide ‘helping’ her to vote. I also chatted at the polls with a woman whose daughter and her AF officer husband were HUGH BHO fans, at least then. There was fraud on every level and all manner of reasons BHO carried VA, not the least of which was aggressive voter registration.


32 posted on 05/04/2012 10:26:06 AM PDT by EDINVA
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I stood in line behind a bunch of droolers ~ people I've known for 1/3 of a century. They voted against Bush because they'd been led to believe he was evil.

So utterly stupid of them.

BTW, they were mostly white.

33 posted on 05/04/2012 10:29:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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