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Reward offered in death of Lightning Medicine Cloud
greenville herald banner ^ | 5/4/12 | Brad Kellar

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:36 PM PDT by mylife

May 4, 2012 Reward offered in death of Lightning Medicine Cloud

By BRAD KELLAR CNHI

GREENVILLE — A grieving Arby Little Soldier announced Friday a $5,000 reward has been posted for information leading to the person or persons responsible for the deaths of Lightning Medicine Cloud, a white buffalo sacred to Native Americans, and his mother.

"The people have taken the heart of a spiritual situation here," Little Soldier said.

During a press conference at the Lakota Ranch near Greenville, investigators looking into the deaths declined to release any details as to how the buffaloes died, other than to confirm that a criminal probe was underway, involving the Hunt County Sheriff's Office, the Texas Rangers and the federal Department of Indian Affairs.

Sheriff Randy Meeks did not comment on reports aired by a Dallas television station concerning the case.

"We are still early into the investigation and I'm not at liberty to say," Meeks said, adding a veterinarian was called to the ranch upon the discovery of the bodies. "We have not received that report yet."

Next week's Native American Powwow, which had been scheduled at the ranch to celebrate Lightning Medicine Cloud's first birthday, will still be presented.

"We are now going to celebrate his memorial," Little Soldier said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: senslesskilling; texas; whitebuffalo
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To: TigersEye
You got rustlers!

I have rope. A short piece anyway. And plenty of tall trees.

I'm saving the lamp posts for politicians.

/johnny

51 posted on 05/04/2012 8:38:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife

... how about pure mean and ornery, getting pleasure hurting and disrespecting an important aspect of the culture of a people.


52 posted on 05/04/2012 8:40:25 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: TigersEye

Rustlers would not have targeted the white buffalo a week ahead of its 1st birthday.

Some weird shit going on here.


53 posted on 05/04/2012 8:40:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep, that’s the way of the west. Never waste a bullet on a rustler when you can use a length of reusable hemp.


54 posted on 05/04/2012 8:41:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

well there you go, I wasn’t expecting a treatise, just a little info. thank you.


55 posted on 05/04/2012 8:42:09 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: ArmyTeach

It’s possible.


56 posted on 05/04/2012 8:42:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

It sounds to me like someone wants to sell those hides. Why they would bother to come back for the mama buffler I don’t know since the white hide would be the big money. I’d call that a rustler even though they didn’t steal them alive.


57 posted on 05/04/2012 8:43:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Light em up! /s LOL


58 posted on 05/04/2012 8:44:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: ArmyTeach
Very possible. But they stepped in it if that's what happened.

/johnny

59 posted on 05/04/2012 8:46:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye

I think there some twisted religious thing behind this entire matter.


60 posted on 05/04/2012 8:46:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye
Be hard to sell that hide. Real hard in this hemisphere, anyway.

/johnny

61 posted on 05/04/2012 8:48:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye

Good luck selling a 1 year old white buffalo hide when only 3 white buffaloes have been documented in history


62 posted on 05/04/2012 8:49:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I concur.

/johnny

63 posted on 05/04/2012 8:49:51 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife

That’s possible. Some faction of Indians may object, for any number of reasons, to someone owning and getting publicity from a white buffalo. Or some non-Indian might have a bug up their arse about Indian spirituality. I don’t get taking the hides in a case like that though.


64 posted on 05/04/2012 8:50:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Something really weird is a foot.


65 posted on 05/04/2012 8:51:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

People sell rare paintings and jewels.


66 posted on 05/04/2012 8:53:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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Stolen rare paintings and jewels that is.
67 posted on 05/04/2012 8:54:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have trouble enough with sects of Christianity let alone trying to understand this incident but I know when someone acted because they were driven.

This was not a random act.
It was a statement of some kind.


68 posted on 05/04/2012 8:55:31 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Be hard to sell that hide. Real hard in this hemisphere, anyway.

Occasionally thieves have been known to be stupid.

69 posted on 05/04/2012 8:55:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Speaking of Paintings.."Lightning Medicine Cloud"

By Rick Robertson aka "Hauson"

70 posted on 05/04/2012 9:01:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

“...They believed if they did the Ghost Dance and the white buffalo came the land would rise up like a wave and bury all the whites.”

Yeah, fat chance!

My paternal grandmother was Welsh. The Welsh people were the people in Britain when the Romans arrived. After the Romans left and Germanic tribes invaded the British Isles, the Welsh were treated to genocide for nearly a millenia. They retreated into the mountains in the western part of the main island of Britain until finally standing their ground in what is known today as Wales.

It has been nearly two thousand years and the Welsh still have their own language and racial identity. But as a group they were smart enough to recognize that living well is the best revenge, and that means succeeding within the greater swell of the human cavalcade.

I have family who are Cherokee and a friend who is half-Apache. Both say the worst thing a person can do is stay on the Reservation. It will kill you.


71 posted on 05/04/2012 9:01:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: mylife

Are the ranchers that owned them Indian too?


72 posted on 05/04/2012 9:02:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

White Buffalo ping


73 posted on 05/04/2012 9:03:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That’s nice! That’s one sexy White Buffalo Goddess.


74 posted on 05/04/2012 9:04:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2111USMC

Yes


75 posted on 05/04/2012 9:04:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: 2111USMC

On May 12th, in the middle of a thunderstorm something remarkable happened on Arby Little Soldier’s ranch in Texas - the birth of a white buffalo,an animal rich in the lore of Native Americans and sacred to many tribes.

White buffalo are extremely rare. To be considered sacred, Little Soldier says, there are certain markings.

Little Soldier would like to name the calf Lightning Medicine Cloud, but that must wait until tribal leaders from around the country gather at his ranch to determine what prophecy the white buffalo brings.

Little Soldier grew up on a reservation in North Dakota. His great grandfather he says was the son of the legendary chief Sitting Bull.

The Little Soldiers have a herd of 1600 bison in North Dakota, selling meat and byproducts, keeping just a small show herd here.

The last true white buffalo, they believe, was born in 1994 in Wisconsin — a female named Miracle.


76 posted on 05/04/2012 9:07:31 PM PDT by James Oscar
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To: TigersEye

It is a good painting for acrylic.

Very bold, very symbolic


77 posted on 05/04/2012 9:09:45 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SatinDoll

Well I didn’t say it was likely to happen just that that was what the Ghost Dancers believed back in the day. I have no idea if any Indians take stock in that now. I kind of doubt it. It’s more likely that believers in the power of the White Buffalo today see it more as a spiritual awakening and purification than a temporal salvation of the land and their old way of life.


78 posted on 05/04/2012 9:09:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: James Oscar

Thanks for posting that.

I remember that one that was born in Wisconsin.


79 posted on 05/04/2012 9:10:14 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: mylife

Someone intends to clone them?


80 posted on 05/04/2012 9:15:50 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: TigersEye

As I understand it the Ghost Dance was supposed to lead to racial unity, but it became a war dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIzMcgcIPCU


81 posted on 05/04/2012 9:15:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: txhurl

It could happen!
We have the technology, but the critter didn’t have to die.


82 posted on 05/04/2012 9:17:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Yeah, I really do like it. I used to paint some and acrylics is what I mostly used. I was a little struck by the sexiness of the woman. I get that she is the White Buffalo Goddess and the buffalo itself is her and that both are symbolic of something beyond the physical realm of things.


83 posted on 05/04/2012 9:18:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mylife; All

The story of Lightening Medicine Cloud’s birth - and the prophecy...this is a true white buffalo, not an albino.

video - cute little fella

http://2012reviews.net/2011/06/03/sacred-white-buffalo-from-prophecy-born-in-texas-sign-of-the-apocalypse/


84 posted on 05/04/2012 9:20:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: mylife

Like you said, someone is sending a message. Follow the money, the casino money. Who wants to intimidate and demoralize Native Americans?

Certain countries who want internet gambling?


85 posted on 05/04/2012 9:23:19 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: mylife

Yes, that’s how I remember what I read about it ... ages ago. The less patient warriors didn’t want to wait and hope for a good outcome to come from dancing and praying alone and used it to try and build enough fervor to fight again. The U.S. Army got wind of that and ... Wounded Knee.


86 posted on 05/04/2012 9:23:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SatinDoll
What does that mean? All white people die?

Don't know much about the Native Americans, I see.

What a dumbass statement.

87 posted on 05/04/2012 9:24:39 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: TigersEye

I use acrylic a lot because they are bold and steadfast.

Its easier than oil or watercolor, but I end up using acrylics like oil or water color LoL


88 posted on 05/04/2012 9:25:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: SatinDoll
My paternal grandmother was Welsh.

Well, that explains a lot about you. ;) (ducking and running)

You are correct that the reservation system as run by the BLM is deadly. Mostly from the feral gooberment part of it.

I have lived with a Cherokee woman (married her, actually), and later (after the divorce) lived on Navajo lands and can speak about as much Navaho as a 3 year old, or maybe a little less.

I respect all peoples, and leave them room for their beliefs.

But I think that killing a white buffalo calf was wrong, and was related to a very, very old argument. I may be wrong.

/johnny

89 posted on 05/04/2012 9:26:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye
There's plenty of reasons a person would take the hides.

I don't think skinning a buffalo is a one-person job... or a job for the inexperienced, no matter why they did it. That doesn't mean an idiot couldn't try it and botch it up, as I've seen more than my share of deer hunters who screwed up a good cape. It would be interesting to know if whoever skinned the animals did a good job, and that should be evident from the carcasses. If it was a pro, a taxidermist or someone with experience at bison slaughter it should be obvious; the skill with which it was done would narrow the range of possibilities of who did it.

I heard of a case some years back where a museum had acquired a bunch of bison skulls and had a volunteer do the messy job of cleaning the skulls so they could be used on posts around a dance circle for an upcoming pow wow at the site. The intention was to store them after the pow wow for future years events, but the skulls were snitched by a "medicine woman" involved in the sponsorship of the event {and her relatives} and sold to some collectors in Europe, last I heard. The museum was too politically correct and too afraid of the woman ginning up protests against them because her family was already developing a reputation for race hustling, so the museum did not object, and the thief was able to pocket the proceeds the Chicago way. To her the buffalo was no more important to her spirituality than it was to the commercial robe hunters of years past, though she talked a good game pretending to be a shaman.

90 posted on 05/04/2012 9:26:34 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: maine-iac7

We were pretty proud of the lil booger


91 posted on 05/04/2012 9:26:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

That is the cool thing about acrylics. You can use them like oils, like water colors or something in between which is just acrylics I guess. I played a little with water colors (that’s fun) but never have use oils. And I have the oil paints and brushes. Haven’t touched any of it for many years now.


92 posted on 05/04/2012 9:31:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: piasa

The point is, is that if someone skinned them and left the meat, they weren’t up to rustling.

This was symbolic to someone.


93 posted on 05/04/2012 9:33:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
I don't like acrylics or oils. I do like watercolor or Dr. Ph. Martin's airbrush dyes. You would be shocked at what I've run (or tried to) through my airbrush. Some experiments work, some don't.

Give me pencil or pen and toothy paper, and I'm good. Give me artboard, a compressor, frisket, and my antique Pacche turbine airbrush, and I'll be too busy to cook or eat.

/johnny

94 posted on 05/04/2012 9:35:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TigersEye

Oils are easier than water colors.
The problem with oils is you have to let them cure.

You want to work but it not stable yet.


95 posted on 05/04/2012 9:35:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: piasa
It would be interesting to know if whoever skinned the animals did a good job, and that should be evident from the carcasses.

That's a good question. It's certain that whoever did it wanted something more than to simply kill the animals. That would be quick and easy to do. Skinning one in situ is a risky proposition.

As for fake shamans; lots of those around in every tradition.

96 posted on 05/04/2012 9:40:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mylife
This was symbolic to someone.

I believe that to be correct. But I see through a glass darkly when it comes to native american issues.

/johnny

97 posted on 05/04/2012 9:41:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can work with most mediums.

Im no expert, but I can get along.


98 posted on 05/04/2012 9:42:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I honestly don’t think this was just some drunk chuckleheads.

Something drove the perps


99 posted on 05/04/2012 9:44:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

DHS might have been called only because they have more advanced technology and tools for crime-solving. I would imagine DHS has far more assets available than any local sheriff’s department


100 posted on 05/04/2012 9:45:10 PM PDT by EDINVA
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