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Why College Football Should Be Banned
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 4, 2012 | Buzz Bissinger

Posted on 05/05/2012 6:28:24 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

In more than 20 years I've spent studying the issue, I have yet to hear a convincing argument that college football has anything do with what is presumably the primary purpose of higher education: academics.

That's because college football has no academic purpose. Which is why it needs to be banned. A radical solution, yes. But necessary in today's times.

Football only provides the thickest layer of distraction in an atmosphere in which colleges and universities these days are all about distraction, nursing an obsession with the social well-being of students as opposed to the obsession that they are there for the vital and single purpose of learning as much as they can to compete in the brutal realities of the global economy.

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1 posted on 05/05/2012 6:28:26 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The average student gets nothing from football programs that remain sacrosanct despite tuition increases.

2 posted on 05/05/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The primary purpose of higher education: academics.”

BWHAHAHAHA. Truth is, it’s all about the $$$.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 6:30:38 AM PDT by proudpapa
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To: MinorityRepublican

Because the never gave Boise State a shot at the title.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 6:31:43 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: MinorityRepublican
...college football has no academic purpose...

Neither does a degree in journalism.

5 posted on 05/05/2012 6:40:38 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why Hell, let’s just ban all sports, nothing but a waste of money.....


6 posted on 05/05/2012 6:40:51 AM PDT by Pirsig289 (Any compromise with evil means evil wins)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Why College Football Should Be Banned

Because my name is Buzz Bissinger and I was teased a lot by the school jocks?

7 posted on 05/05/2012 6:41:33 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: MinorityRepublican
The most recent example is the University of Maryland. The president there, Wallace D. Loh, late last year announced that eight varsity programs would be cut in order to produce a leaner athletic budget, a kindly way of saying that the school would rather save struggling football and basketball programs than keep varsity sports such as track and swimming, in which the vast majority of participants graduate.

So now we have class warfare against college football.

Well, football usually pays the bills for non-spectator sports. Get rid of football and watch others disappear.

I think the author is a miserable person.

8 posted on 05/05/2012 6:41:49 AM PDT by Gamecock (Celebrating 17,158 replies of dubious quality!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s not just football that needs banning. The NCAA is as much a part of the funding (and anti-educational) problem as football.


9 posted on 05/05/2012 6:43:14 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: MinorityRepublican

Upon the fields of friendly strife
Are sown the seeds
That, upon other fields, on other days
Will bear the fruits of victory. —GEN Douglas MacArthur


10 posted on 05/05/2012 6:45:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: MinorityRepublican

The NFL would never approve of the elimination of their free farm system.


11 posted on 05/05/2012 6:47:07 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: MinorityRepublican

Way to open your mouth again, Buzzzzzz. The idiot.
Now NO minorities would be going to college to learn ANY academics.

Here’s a guy who made millions from writing a book about my hometown high school football team. He is the only one who made any money — not the players, not the coaches, not the community. His pompous cynicism destroyed a thrill of watching some high school kids play football to those who just actually enjoy watching sports.

What’s that envy called that he has?


12 posted on 05/05/2012 6:47:20 AM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: Mach9

Before TV came along....NCAA football might have been pure. But I think since the 1960s...it’s just the minor leagues of the NFL. Every single kid on a college team ought to be making a minimum of $12k a year, with the free tuition. Same deal for NCAA basketball.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 6:47:57 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: proudpapa
“The primary purpose of higher education: academics.”

BWHAHAHAHA. Truth is, it’s all about the $$$.

The primary purpose of education is liberal elete employment and indoctrination.

14 posted on 05/05/2012 6:48:02 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Thde President who ate the dog, will wag the dog.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
college football has no academic purpose

Which is why it has no place, and never HAS had any place, on a college campus.

Set up a "farm league" system like baseball has and pay these semi-professionals to train there. And if the rest of the athletic programs can't afford to finance themselves, then they go away too. If students want those physical activities, they can form independent intramural clubs and exercise to their hearts' content. But get these ape-training programs out of our colleges and off our campuses!

15 posted on 05/05/2012 6:49:51 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Pirsig289
Why Hell, let’s just ban all sports, nothing but a waste of money.....

And time. I always ask my sports fan friends, to what end are they loyally rooting for these teams? Especially with professional sports. Wether it be baseball, football, basketball or whatever. It just goes on and on, season after season, with no end. Some of these teams have been around for 80+ years. Where is it going? Even if the ultimate goal is reached, and "your" team wins the championship, the whole damn thing just reboots the following season. Dumbest crap ever. Plus, the fans get nothing out of it anyway. These fans root, and cheer and get emotional on levels like nothing else, and they don't even stop to think that there is nothing in it for them.

16 posted on 05/05/2012 6:50:22 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: MinorityRepublican

Buzz off Buzz. You think like liberal democrat and write like a fool as you are a fool.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 6:54:57 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why College Funding Should Be Banned...

Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism. - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850

(CAPS mine)

It can be done...

http://www.hillsdale.edu/admissions/faq/faq_list.asp?iSectionID=1&iGroupID=45&iQuestionID=108


18 posted on 05/05/2012 6:56:48 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Gamecock

Title IX has done FAR more damage to college varsity sports than football ever will.

}:-)4


19 posted on 05/05/2012 6:59:30 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: HerrBlucher
Because my name is Buzz Bissinger and I was teased a lot by the school jocks?

Not quite the most embarrassing display of ignorance of the subject matter I've on FR, but definitely up there.

20 posted on 05/05/2012 7:01:43 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: MinorityRepublican

More foolishness. I like college football, don’t care for pro-football and think both are over celebrated and in their own way both are over paid.

I still don’t think either should be banned though. If they are not necessary they will go away because demand will fall to nothing.

College tuition keeps going up because the number who don’t pay a dime keeps going up subsidized by the number who do pay and the free access to cheap money by people foolish enough to borrow it.


21 posted on 05/05/2012 7:02:51 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: MinorityRepublican

Here’s an idea: Let’s keep football, and banish liberalism from campuses. Now, wouldn’t THAT be beneficial to society?


22 posted on 05/05/2012 7:13:39 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Funny coincidence...just Thursday this week, Rush predicted that the nannies would try to begin banning professional football because of head injuries and later suicides, whether linked or not. He said this would happen “maybe not in our lifetimes.”

Kudos, Rush, your first prediction was right on. But your timing on your second was off by a few decades!


23 posted on 05/05/2012 7:15:00 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: MinorityRepublican

If college were not heavily subsidized by the taxpayer and if a college degree were not made into a required certificate for so many jobs not really needing a college degree, who would care?

Some schools would run Div. 1 (semi-pro) programs because they were, all things considered, money-makers. (This includes fund-raising, and recruitment and retention of tuition-paying students, in addition to ticket sales, broadcasting rights and ancillary revenue).

Other schools would run Div. 3 (more like amateur) programs. Basically because, for them, it helps with recruitment and retention of students.

Other schools would avoid intercollegiate sports altogether, and focus on offering low cost education. Think urban commuter schools, and schools that cater to “non-traditional” students.

Cost at a for-profit school like Strayer is often half that at a not-for-profit. Intercollegiate athletics is part of the difference. But so are many other things. Because of taxpayer subsidies and creeping credentialism, the cost of college is a very real problem.


24 posted on 05/05/2012 7:15:49 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: MinorityRepublican

My opinion? I’m glad you asked! ;-)

I think any college athlete - football included - should be paid maybe the amount varying from sport to sport but for any sport all would be paid the same.

I don’t know about all sports but I do know that any number of college football players can be taken out (and suffer from) injuries suffered during their college career even though they likely will never go pro.

Colleges make millions on their football/basketball programs - give the guys a little something - above board and well-deserved. IMHO. ;-)


25 posted on 05/05/2012 7:16:48 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: HerrBlucher
Because my name is Buzz Bissinger and I was teased a lot by the school jocks?

Snort...how did you guess?

26 posted on 05/05/2012 7:17:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: IronJack

I can not believe the foolishness I am hearing on this subject. Football is a violent sport which arms our society with a martial class of humans who may be called upon in time of conflict or strife. It also teaches group struggle on a level that is not even achievable by our economic competitors. In short, we will never be invaded because we have so many athletes and guns. Great Marines tend to have played violent sports in high school and or college. Get a clue. Young men are brought to the peak of there athletic potential. A quality education includes mind, body and soul. In short a football player is more likely to be a republican! Football works on the mind and soul.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 7:19:37 AM PDT by ghannonf18
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To: onedoug

exactly


28 posted on 05/05/2012 7:20:18 AM PDT by ghannonf18
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

FUBUZZ!! College football rocks. The pros should be eliminated.


29 posted on 05/05/2012 7:21:04 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: MinorityRepublican

at least football generates income...the rest of academia is funded by inflated tuition and taxpayer money.


30 posted on 05/05/2012 7:21:49 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Now there’s a picture of a guy who got a “swirly” every day in 8th grade from the football team.


31 posted on 05/05/2012 7:23:46 AM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: proudpapa
BWHAHAHAHA. Truth is, it’s all about the $$$.

I attended college in three decades: 70's 80's and 90's and I am here to tell you it is ALL about money now.

The tuitions have sky rocketed.

Incredibly high Lab fees and sometimes lab fees for courses with no actual lab exercises.

And particularly creepy is charging OUTLANDISH amounts for books written by the Professor of the class you are required to take, printed by the University Press, and sold ONLY at the University Book store.

32 posted on 05/05/2012 7:25:44 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: henkster

That’s as much as you know about him? I had no idea who he was or what he did, then I read the article to make sure I didn’t say something stupid.


33 posted on 05/05/2012 7:32:49 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I am going to ask you MR... you put this article on last night. Why today? Do you have an issue with football or do you just find the article interesting?


34 posted on 05/05/2012 7:33:47 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: ghannonf18
A quality education includes mind, body and soul.

According to whom? I'm not hiring anyone because of their soul. Or their body (unless I'm running a warehouse or a whorehouse). I'm hiring them for what they KNOW!

In short a football player is more likely to be a republican!

Can you back that up with any statistics?

Football works on the mind and soul.

Hogwash. Football works on the most primal of instincts: greed. And while I have no problem with greed as a form of capitalism, I don't believe we should be training these ... performers ... in the same place we're educating people for something useful.

I don't object to football -- or any other sport. I object to them being tied -- completely irrationally -- to the academic environment. Get them off campuses and make legitimate businesses out of them. That's all they are anyway.

35 posted on 05/05/2012 7:37:18 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Collegiate sports teach discipline, sportsmanship, competition, how to win and lose, no matter how good you are, you can still lose; not all winners are better; how to plan, how to take orders, how to work in a team, consequences of public humiliation, humility, consequential statistics, and the list goes on and on.


36 posted on 05/05/2012 7:37:23 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: jiggyboy

Too late, you already did.


37 posted on 05/05/2012 7:38:35 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think banning college football goes a bit too far. However, they should probably eliminate any physical contact, get rid of those bulky uniforms and certainly there is no need for keeping score. This only causes the losing team to be psychologically disappointed.


38 posted on 05/05/2012 7:42:56 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: MinorityRepublican

So who is to enforce this banning? Will this entail a new Federal agency dedicated to making sure no colleges, public or private have football teams or any sports for that matter? Will this include the West Point and Naval Academy football programs too?


39 posted on 05/05/2012 7:59:04 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MinorityRepublican
I personally detest what NCAA Division I football has become. It is utterly corrupt. Why has no one here on this thread mentioned the Penn State debacle? Football at Penn State became sacrosanct to the point where heinous crimes were covered up. And it even corrupts our service academies-- I am still bitter about Navy redshirting Napoleon McCallum.

All that said, this knuckleheaded busybody misses a fine point about small government. As much as I abhor how NCAA Div. I is now a de facto farm club system for the NFL (and I love the NFL!!!), I don't think that's it's the government's place to tell colleges how to run their sports programs. I just want to smack Michael Wilbon and other sports journalists who actually want Congress to intervene in how the BCS is run. We can't get the Senate to pass a freakin' budget-- to hell with tinkering with the BCS.

40 posted on 05/05/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: MinorityRepublican
If you don't like college football, or college athletics for that matter, don't watch them. When you want them banned, now I have a problem.

I have an undergraduate and a professional degree. I would not have had that if it wasn't for football. I didn't play it in college, but I did play ball in high school. It kept me focused on my grades. It kept me from being drunk all the time.

College sports brings in students with higher test scores. My alma matter is Michigan State. It is much harder to get into MSU than it was when I was there. As the football and basketball teams got better, especially the last five years, it became more selective as more people applied. People want to be a part of a good program. Good programs bring in good students - not just as players, but spectators.

As for the other sports, the athletic dept budgets are separate from the university itself, so it is funds that bring that in. Donors from rich alums who are sports fans (Phil Knight and T Boone Pickens are two of the most famous of their schools) along with ticket sales and TV revenue. There are usually one, sometimes two, and rarely three sports that make money on campus. Football. Men's basketball. Sometimes hockey. These sports fund ALL of the other athletic programs.

41 posted on 05/05/2012 8:12:06 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: momtothree
I am going to ask you MR... you put this article on last night. Why today? Do you have an issue with football or do you just find the article interesting?

Rush was right.....

42 posted on 05/05/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Lysandru
Why has no one here on this thread mentioned the Penn State debacle? Football at Penn State became sacrosanct to the point where heinous crimes were covered up.

Agreed. But, and not to at all excuse corruption, the money generated from the Penn State football program in large part, along with an original grant from Hersey, funded the building and continues to support the Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center and its programs.

Penn State Donates More Than $2.6 Million in Bowl Funds For Child Abuse Prevention

All that said, this knuckleheaded busybody misses a fine point about small government. As much as I abhor how NCAA Div. I is now a de facto farm club system for the NFL (and I love the NFL!!!), I don't think that's it's the government's place to tell colleges how to run their sports programs. I just want to smack Michael Wilbon and other sports journalists who actually want Congress to intervene in how the BCS is run. We can't get the Senate to pass a freakin' budget-- to hell with tinkering with the BCS.

Yes!

43 posted on 05/05/2012 8:16:09 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MinorityRepublican

The WSJ didn’t used to be known for its left wing dribble. Looks like it wants to go the way of most of the print media.


44 posted on 05/05/2012 8:18:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: MinorityRepublican

Everything I don’t like should be banned; like, permitted.


45 posted on 05/05/2012 8:19:02 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will wag the dog.)
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To: ghannonf18
Football, the builder of American character.

1992-former high school football star Damian "Football" Williams celebrates smashing truck driver Reginald Denny's head.


46 posted on 05/05/2012 8:21:01 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MinorityRepublican

>>That’s because college football has no academic purpose.<<

And neither does anything else I did when I went to college with the small exception of going to class and studying. I did all that for about 25 hours a week (40+ in law school). That left more than 125 hours a week to fill up with other activities.

This is a patently stupid article. I didn’t play college football, but I played a little baseball and basketball in college. Don’t you (the author) dare tell me that I and my fellow athletes got nothing out of the experience. I played with some guys that might not have gone to college but for athletics and most ended up with a degree — they grew up and realized street ball and hanging with their buds wasn’t going to make much money. Others are better prepared for a career or avocation due to their participation. I officiate 2 college sports — football and basketball — and I am a MUCH better official for having played ANY college sport. Its just a different game than HS on so many levels.

There are college ADs and Presidents that have made bad decisions — not having a D-I playoff is a HORRIBLY STUPID decision (so far). But we need to change those things, not banning the game.

The only reason this guy has any sort of a name is because of Texas HS football. In Texas, college athletics can not be funded with public money, but HS athletics can. His argument doesn’t work on any level, but it makes a little more sense on the HS level — and that would have destroyed any way for this guy to be known. Sort of ironic.


47 posted on 05/05/2012 8:24:50 AM PDT by 1L
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To: southern rock

>>they don’t even stop to think that there is nothing in it for them. <<

There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of individuals who spend their money that, in part, shows you to be terribly wrong. Just because YOU don’t get anything out of it (or don’t believe anyone would) doesn’t mean others don’t. It isn’t your money, so why are you worried about it? A simple, “I don’t get anything out of sports, so whatever they do is fine with me...” would more than suffice. I don’t have a problem with anyone calling something dumb when it really is, but not liking something doesn’t make it dumb.


48 posted on 05/05/2012 8:31:26 AM PDT by 1L
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To: ghannonf18
I can not believe the foolishness I am hearing on this subject. Football is a violent sport which arms our society with a martial class of humans who may be called upon in time of conflict or strife. It also teaches group struggle on a level that is not even achievable by our economic competitors. In short, we will never be invaded because we have so many athletes and guns. Great Marines tend to have played violent sports in high school and or college. Get a clue. Young men are brought to the peak of there athletic potential. A quality education includes mind, body and soul. In short a football player is more likely to be a republican! Football works on the mind and soul.

The only proper reply to what you said

49 posted on 05/05/2012 8:32:01 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: 1L

OK, so tell me specifically, what does a sports fan, at the end of the season (or game for that matter), have to show for it, regardless of wether “their” team had won or lost?


50 posted on 05/05/2012 8:36:04 AM PDT by southern rock
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