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UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/04/us-stolen-land-indian-tribes-un ^

Posted on 05/05/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08

A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination. James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, said no member of the US Congress would meet him as he investigated the part played by the government in the considerable difficulties faced by Indian tribes.

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To: Harley
Maybe Elizabeth Warren will jump on this topic and demand she be given back her share 1/32 of the land she had stolen from her.

Somehow I think she'd have her eye on Martha's Vineyard...or Maui.

41 posted on 05/05/2012 9:55:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Darteaus94025

The land sitting on top of all the oil should be absolutely returned. The Indians would start drilling immediately. They are not as stupid as the federal government.


42 posted on 05/05/2012 9:59:07 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Gay State Conservative

The office building could be converted into a hotel rather easily. Then, the Genral Assembly building could be an enormous gaming facility with Blackjack, Roulette, Poker, Slots, Keno, etc.


43 posted on 05/05/2012 10:02:28 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"Maui"
..Polynesiaese, too! :-D

44 posted on 05/05/2012 10:05:50 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA. DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me $hit; with different flie$". :^)
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To: savedbygrace
1/3? Please explain the math involved in that.

I'll respond as someone who has seen this happen. If the respondent has 10 full blooded in his 3 greats ancestry of 32 (2^5), would that not be 1/3rd ancestry?

Of course, Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren, is only claiming a single 1 of 32 ancestors as being 'red', maybe high cheekbones meant political proclivity?

45 posted on 05/05/2012 10:06:10 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Slightly off to the side is the fact that the “progressive eugenics” movement did more damage to American Indians than did all the Indian wars. However, both eugenics and wars were less damaging than the diseases spread by the meeting of cultures between America and Europe.


46 posted on 05/05/2012 10:07:32 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: TsonicTsunami08
Ummm...I thought it was unknown in the Native American ideology for Man to own land.

If so, how is it possible to steal what is not owned?

47 posted on 05/05/2012 10:08:39 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Agreed, AAC.


48 posted on 05/05/2012 10:08:39 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Well I think all of Europe had best give back all of Europe to it indigenous paleolithic ground squatters & nomadic herdsmen that inhabited the geographic area before the spread of the Anglo/Aryan tribes.

After that come to us and lecture on the definition of “conquest.”


49 posted on 05/05/2012 10:10:52 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: RWGinger
At Rosebud, that's a situation where indigenous people have seen over time encroachment on to their land and they've lost vast territories and there have been clear instances of broken treaty promises. It's undisputed that the Black Hills was guaranteed them by treaty

The Sioux took, stole to use the terminology of the article, the Black Hills from the Cheyenne, interestingly enough in 1776. The Sioux thus "owned" the BH for only a century. Whereas "we" have owned it for a century and a half by now. I wonder when title transfers?

The Cheyenne had earlier taken the BH from the Kiowa, driving them south and west. It seems highly unlikely they saw any need to have a treaty with the Kiowa or offer them any compensation. No doubt some other group had control of the BH prior to the Kiowa.

I think one of the most interesting aspects of these indigenous peoples' activists is their utter disinterest in the history of the peoples they're activisting for prior to contact with the white man. They're not interested in them only in the history of their oppression by western civilization.

50 posted on 05/05/2012 10:11:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: kosciusko51

One day (perhaps very soon), “blue helmets” will be the new symbol displayed on vehicles, like swastikas/zeros were displayed on WWII aircraft. Heh...

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/military_fighter_pilots/fighter-pilot-wwii.jpg


51 posted on 05/05/2012 10:16:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Yep. Start with Manhattan...


52 posted on 05/05/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

S. James Anaya is the American James J. Lenoir Professor of Human Rights Law and Policy at the University of Arizona's James E. Rogers College of Law. In March 2008, he was appointed by the United Nations as its Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of Indigenous Peoples.

Gee, why do I think that he might have a potential bias in this case? (Hint) He appears to have suspiciously high cheekbones, and we know what that means, right?

53 posted on 05/05/2012 10:17:52 AM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: TsonicTsunami08; All

The same UN to which MR seems to have a certain loyalty?

Rubio Praises U.N., World Bank, IMF for Not Asserting ‘Narrow American Interests’

By Michael W. Chapman
April 25, 2012

. . . Rubio spoke about foreign policy at the Brookings Institution, in Washington, Wednesday, April 25, 2012. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

(CNSNews.com) – Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.),. . . lauded the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for following their respective visions instead of asserting “narrow American interests” in a speech today on U.S. foreign policy.

. . . In remarks at the liberal Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., Rubio sketched the advances made globally since the end of World War II as a result of America’s leadership.

“The purpose of the institutions we established, from the United Nations to the World Bank and the IMF was to spread peace and prosperity, not to assert narrow American interests,” said Sen. Rubio.


54 posted on 05/05/2012 10:21:15 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Navy Patriot
*** Nuts, no more cowboys and injuns? ***

That's okay. We're grown up now.

We'll play 'Cowboys and U.N. Peacekeepers' instead.

Or, 'Cowboys and U.N. Anything'
;-)

55 posted on 05/05/2012 10:23:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Note to UN:

You have thirty days to vacate your offices which are located on stolen Indian land. We will be turning the building into a casino and your presence is not advisable.

Have a nice day,

Chief Dances With Diplomats


56 posted on 05/05/2012 10:31:09 AM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: TsonicTsunami08
Actually the famous sale of Manhattan to the Dutch was the first recorded American scam. The Indians who got the payment didn't even claim the land. Unbeknownst to the Dutch it "belonged" to another tribe altogether.
57 posted on 05/05/2012 10:32:16 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: TsonicTsunami08

The UN needs to mind it own #@$! business!


58 posted on 05/05/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: SES1066

Not really. Sort of close, but not exactly. It’s 10/32 or 5/16.


59 posted on 05/05/2012 11:00:24 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: RWGinger
I don't recall hearing that the native American tribes considered they “owned” the land, rather they used it for their well being and may have indeed included expelling other tribes.

Native America “Indians” certainly believed the victor deserved the spoils. What should change that? They did not voluntarily do so.

60 posted on 05/05/2012 11:14:16 AM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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