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Posted on 05/05/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination. James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, said no member of the US Congress would meet him as he investigated the part played by the government in the considerable difficulties faced by Indian tribes.
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One day (perhaps very soon), “blue helmets” will be the new symbol displayed on vehicles, like swastikas/zeros were displayed on WWII aircraft. Heh...
Yep. Start with Manhattan...
S. James Anaya is the American James J. Lenoir Professor of Human Rights Law and Policy at the University of Arizona's James E. Rogers College of Law. In March 2008, he was appointed by the United Nations as its Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of Indigenous Peoples.
Gee, why do I think that he might have a potential bias in this case? (Hint) He appears to have suspiciously high cheekbones, and we know what that means, right?
The same UN to which MR seems to have a certain loyalty?
Rubio Praises U.N., World Bank, IMF for Not Asserting Narrow American Interests
By Michael W. Chapman
April 25, 2012
. . . Rubio spoke about foreign policy at the Brookings Institution, in Washington, Wednesday, April 25, 2012. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)
(CNSNews.com) Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.),. . . lauded the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for following their respective visions instead of asserting narrow American interests in a speech today on U.S. foreign policy.
. . . In remarks at the liberal Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., Rubio sketched the advances made globally since the end of World War II as a result of Americas leadership.
The purpose of the institutions we established, from the United Nations to the World Bank and the IMF was to spread peace and prosperity, not to assert narrow American interests, said Sen. Rubio.
That's okay. We're grown up now.
We'll play 'Cowboys and U.N. Peacekeepers' instead.
Or, 'Cowboys and U.N. Anything'
Note to UN:
You have thirty days to vacate your offices which are located on stolen Indian land. We will be turning the building into a casino and your presence is not advisable.
Have a nice day,
Chief Dances With Diplomats
The UN needs to mind it own #@$! business!
Not really. Sort of close, but not exactly. It’s 10/32 or 5/16.
Native America “Indians” certainly believed the victor deserved the spoils. What should change that? They did not voluntarily do so.
“I think we should give it back also and then they push the UN building right into the East River. “
Yep. Most liberal strongholds are cities. Propose to make Manhattan, or DC, or Chicago a gift back to the Indians. Let’s see if liberals are willing to sacrifice for their ideology.
Heck, lets give them NYC, Boston,Chicago, Philladelphia, Detroit, LA, and San Fran. That ought to do it!! Oh yes and all of Vermont!!
Now we knosw why Elizabeth Warren was claiming to be part Indian she knew this crap was coming down.
Opps forgot DC, how about All of OR, and Wash St. too!
Not in Texas!
Nobama knows there are many here who are prepared to fight again like the Alamo.
Now if somehow nobama re-wins and the dems regain House and Senate majorities, the rest of you all will deserve whatever you are willing to put up with.
She can give them Cambridge,Newton,and Brookline.(And I live in one of them)
My advice to all Injuns: assimilate, or go extinct.
My advice to the UN: go extinct.
Which Turtle Bay?
“——they are silent on member states that are commiting wholesale murder against racial minorities as I type this response.”
Yup! I wonder of they’ve checked out Zimbabwe recently?
After they pay all their parking tickets.
To the UN: Yeah, Right after all the Arab nations return all the land belonging to Israel!!!!
The white people called them blood thirsty, godless savages among other things and decided to tame them with guns and bibles, put them in concentration camps "for their own protection" while they took their lands and opened them up to white settlers. Now here is the difference: If indeed the Indians were godless blood thirsty savages and killing their neighbors for land and dominance, that was a way of life that they always knew WHEREAS the White man was civilized , had God and supposedly a moral civilization. The conclusion to me is the White sin was a thousand times worse than what the Indians have always done in time immemorial.
When Lewis and Clark found the Sioux living on the middle reaches of the Missouri River, it was because the Ojibway were sitting on the ancestral Sioux lands north of the Great Lakes, having driven the Sioux out to starve. They would have, too, except for their discovery of the horse and the High Plains buffalo herds.
1. England owes Scotland and Ireland;
2. Romans owe the known world of the time;
3. Egyptians owe the Israelites (Jews);
4. England owes just about everyone during its reign;
5. Germany owes much of Europe, USA, parts of Africa, and Russia;
6. Japan owes much of Asia and the USA;
7. Persia owes Greece;
8. Mongols owe central Asia and eastern Europe;
9. France owes Britain and much of Europe;
10. Spain owes the Aztecs and parts of Europe;
11. Apaches owe the Navajos.
12. Navajo owe the Sioux;
13. Sioux owe the Cherokee and take it east...
14. Mexico owes indian natives;
15. Russia owes countries of the Soviet Bloc;
16. China owes parts of Asia;
17. Ottoman Empire owes central Asia and eastern Europe;
18. Eastern Europe owes each other;
19. Vikings owe Newfoundland and parts of Scandinavia;
20. Many African nations owe each other;
21. Many European nations owe African nations;
22. Italians owe the Allied countries;
23. Middle East nations owe each other;
Really? How far back do we have to go? When homo sapiens left their caves to fight with other homo sapiens? At what point to we declare that conquest is over and the lines of nations are now drawn and live with it (except for the rare few)?
I want something!
LOL! I hadn't heard that one. God, don't tell Russel Means! He'll be furious!
Talk about getting things off to a good start .....
Bwahahaha! I agree!
Much of what you describe are actions carried out by the Federal Gooberment and a range of self-serving politicians. The reservation system? Thank Uncle Fed for that. Trail of Tears? Thank that genocidal fascist Andrew Jackson. Even now, the Feds treat American Indians like children.
If you think the Comanche suffered overmuch at the hands of the Scots-Irish, perhaps you should read what the Scots-Irish had done to the Irish. As the saying went, when the Scots-Irish first landed in Ireland, "They fell on their knees and prayed to God. Then they fell on the natives, and preyed on them."
You argue that the Red men did as they had always done. So did the white man -- ask anyone who teaches European and Asian history. Ask any Zulu, ask any Turk or Arab. Siege of Acre, anyone? -- that was pretty stringent. Or are we just talking massacres? Five or six in Ireland alone, in a 600-year span ending 250 years ago. Which is about when the "puttings down" in Scotland, by the English, ended. And don't forget the hundreds of thousands of Cypriot pagans put to death by the Arabs in the 9th century, or the millions of Hindus killed by the caliphs and sharifs. Your average Arab imam or sharif wouldn't even get out of bed on a day when he didn't feel up to killing 20,000 Hindus.
Depends on the tirbes in question, no? Some tribes were focused on agriculture and inhabited a fixed area. Some tribes were very nomadic. Some peaceful and some would make scare the crap out of a Conquistador. There is a big difference between, for example, the Zuni and the Comanche. One can no more lump together all American Indians any more than one can lump together all Europeans.
Yes, on the Human Rights Commission.
Been watching "Dances With Wolves" too many times? Kidding. At the least, the different tribes recognized regional territory and butchered and raped and enslaved each other over territory. They were no more noble than the warring whites of Europe, they were just weaker when the Europeans arrived. Although, I will agree that when they said "I give up", the US fedgov screwed them many times.
It was a time when nations and peoples would conquer and build empires. It's long gone and time for everyone to get over it, except for some nations in Africa who still enslave, murder, rape, and war. Where's the UN outrage regarding Sudan, Chad, Congo, Somalia, Ethiopia, Rwanda, and others in Africa?
The self-righteous UN has no concern about them. They focus their outrage on whites and especially on Israel and on the so-called plight of few American Indians on reservations who don't want to join American society who live on the tax-payers. Sheesh, the various tribes are opening casinos every where in California and making a fortune. Boohoo.
That said, it was one of my greatest pleasures when some 100 of us bikers were invited to the Navajo Nation Capitol (Window Rock) on the way to the annual Rolling Thunder event in DC. They treated us with the upmost respect and lined the streets as we made our way to Capitol grounds. I will never forget the site of so many waving American flags and cheering us on. I get choked up just thinking about it.
As I've always said, some cultures are just better than others for the advancement of civilization and that includes the Navajos. The Navajos are a very patriotic people. Remember the code talkers in the pacific campaign in WWII? Their contribution saved thousands of GI's, which they were also. I salute them. The others who want to whine on their reservations and such tax-payer dollars, not much.
Guilty as charged, you Honor. When it is on it is difficult to turn the channel.
Yup...F the UN...get them the hell out of Manhattan. They have no right to be there. Period. A Bloody Period! It is time to rescind ‘Free Speech’ on that part of Manhattan where that ugly monstrosty we call the UN resides.
First of all, the UN absolutely should butt out....however...
The various Indian nations who fought over territory didn’t have written treaties with each other as were finally established with the US government. Treaties, according to our Constitution, are supposed to be the “supreme law of the land.”
Many of those treaties had compensatory provisions or promises which have not been kept, or are in default...as in back payment due.
Much of the land in Western states (for some socialist reason) is owned by the federal government and leased to ranchers.
If it can be shown that the federal government indeed owes certain Indian groups compensation, I’d much rather see that real estate in the hands of Indians than the frigging US government. And certainly not in the hands of some foreign power (like China for example)
If I remember correctly, traditional established Indian Nations are supposed to be just that....sovereign nations.
Return Europe to the Neanderthals.
Now, why did they have that attitude? Let me tell you a little story.
One day in the 1870's, about the time the Sioux rose (I couldn't tell you which time), some Indians -- don't know what tribe, which band -- massacred a farm family who'd committed the grievous offense of farming while white, and minding their own business while white. Men all mutilated, women raped and then mutilated, children just mutilated, everybody scalped and dead. My great-grandfather, a young Irish kid who'd come out from Indianapolis where his daddy was a hotelier and his brothers were drunks in Daddy's hotel bar, was a white scout for George Armstrong Custer's Seventh Cavalry -- yes. The Seventh. They mostly shot buffalo, rode with the troops, and tried to stay out of trouble.
They heard about the farmstead massacre, so they rode on out to see about it. A baby boy was unaccounted for (I do seem to recall it was a boy), and it was thought that one of the raiding band had taken it with them.
Riding out following the Indians' trail, they spotted an Indian woman, a young woman not a squaw, sitting by herself under a tree -- nobody else around, all by herself, except that she had a baby with her. A white baby: they'd found the missing baby. They rode up to where the young woman was sitting, dandling the baby, and my great-grandfather looked down at her and she looked up at him. He said afterward he'd never forget the look in her eyes -- cold, black, bottomless wells of enmity and implacability. And without even looking down at the baby, in a twinkling she produced a knife and in one, fast movement, gutted that baby from crotch to neck, just eviscerated him. Great-grandfather said he didn't know how many times he and his companions shot her, but it was a bunch: they shot her to pieces.
That was what it was like to meet an Indian on the High Plains in the 1870's, if you were white. Now take the rest of it, and shove it. Not buying any of the white guilt you're selling.
LOL, yeah that will happen
How bout we give them the UN building in Manhattan and kill two birds with one stone?
yeah, you betcha
So...you had 2 mommies?...or 2 daddies? Help me with the math here.
You forgot to mention WHY were those white people in that area to start with. Oh, it was Indian territory and they were trespassing. I believe people trespassing on your land, killing your food, attacking your camps might just piss you off a bit, no? Sometimes it just makes me sick to hear the total snake venom excuses some of you use to justify your atrocities. I use the present tense “your atrocities” because you have no remorse and would have done the same thing had you lived back then.
At seeing a baby butterfly-filletted? You bet your ass, no remorse.
"Guilty as charged, you Honor. When it is on it is difficult to turn the channel."
It is actually a very well done movie. I also watch when it comes on. Interesting as I told others on another thread, the great plains Sioux were the least of the settlers problems for many years.
Like in the movie, Pawnee and other tibes were just blood-thirsty and were intolerant of other tribes. Pick your Indian.
But yet, they are all the "noble" peoples of America as recently portrayed in movies, while they murdered, butchered, raped, enslaved their neighboring tribes. While they often got a bad deal from the then US Fedgov (who doesn't), they were simple savages who couldn't progress from the stone age.
But they got casinos.
Give Constantinople, Egypt, and North Africa back to the Christians first.