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Why Christians and Patriots CANNOT vote for Mitt Romney (Vanity)
America's Wake Up Call ^ | 5/5/2012 | Craig Bergman

Posted on 05/05/2012 9:22:38 AM PDT by Waywardson

Attention all Patriots:

Tune in to America's Wake Up Call: Talk radio sponsored by Tea Party of America and Patriots for Christ.

Hear Craig Bergman and Jamie Johnson make the case for why Christians and Patriots CANNOT vote for Mitt Romney.

This Saturday at 1pm CST on 99.3 FM in the Des Moines, Iowa area or live streaming on the web at: www.americaswakeupcall.net

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Long live the Republic!

In Liberty,


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: obama; presidential; romney
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Here in the US someone can be convicted of murder without ever having actually killed anyone, but because they were "in on it" they are guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.

In order to be guilty of conspiracy to commit murder a prosecutor must prove 3 elements to gain a conviction.

1.) The defendant intended to agree and did agree with someone to commit murder;

2.) At the time of the agreement, the defendant and [one or more of] the other alleged member[s] of the conspiracy intended that one or more of them would commit murder;

3.) (The/One of the) defendant[s] of coparticipant[s] or (both/ all) of them] committed [at least one of] the overt act[s] alleged to accomplish the murder;

Examples of this crime would be hiring a hitman. The person paying for the murder is just as guilty as the hitman.

Charles Manson claims he never killed anyone but he has been in prison for nearly 40 years for conspiracy.

WHEN SYSTEMS COLLIDE

Abortion is a perfectly legal murder in mans criminal justice system, but I submit that in Gods criminal justice system it is a sin of the most heinous sort, one that brutally ends the life of our most vulnerable and innocent members to the tune of a staggering 50 MILLION VICTIMS in the US alone, and counting.

Those directly responsible are quite obvious, but what of the coparticipants? Those that have conspired against these 52 million vulnerable innocent crime victims? It takes a massively wide conspiracy of unbelievable proportions to accomplish a crime of this unfathomable magnitude.

I submit that all those who keep this sin legal are just as guilty as those who are direct participants.

Abortion is a main plank of the Democratic platform. When you vote for a party you are putting your seal of approval on that platform. You are agreeing and supporting their goals when you cast your vote for their party.

The GOP is now a pro-choice party and they lost my vote.

They will lose.

They need to go the way of the Whigs.

The hand wringing bed-wetters sniveling about the boogieman means nothing to me.

I answer to a higher authority.

151 posted on 05/05/2012 10:48:02 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Waywardson

“You are the enemy and that much is clear to anyone who has studied history and the end of the great Republics. The enablers, the appeasers, the defenders of the indefensible are always the very CAUSE of the downfall of liberty. Tories. Loyalists. Vichy.”

“Your great grandchildren will curse your name in bondage. Fool, fool, fool.”

Take your holier than thou crap somewhere else.


152 posted on 05/05/2012 10:48:02 AM PDT by DB
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To: Waywardson; All

I will be back in a little over an hour.

Perhaps then we can debate the SUBSTANCE and not just the THEORY in this discussion.

For those who are serious about the debate, listen. To those who won’t, well, that is the reason we are in this sorry state.


153 posted on 05/05/2012 10:52:09 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Waywardson

I’m voting for Romney over the Bamster and I have no problem being your “enemy”.


154 posted on 05/05/2012 10:52:24 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Waywardson
Let it be a ROUTE!

My suggestion to you is to learn the English language.

And we will never again see them nominate a RINO. Let Romney win, and we will never again see a Conservative.

Four more years of Obama and it won't matter who gets nominated next time, RINO or Conservative. Everything that follows the reelection of Obama will just be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The country is finished after he transforms it.

Demography is destiny. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG and by 2039 half of the country will be.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born. Immigrants and minorities vote Democrat.

155 posted on 05/05/2012 10:53:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Waywardson

Time to hold the line on the progressive demoralization of our nation. The liberal GOP-e has no intention what-so-ever of reversing any of the leftist legislation that has been passed....they never have reversed any of it before and they won’t do it now or in the future.

TYBO-GOPE (Turn your back on the liberal GOP-e)


156 posted on 05/05/2012 10:54:31 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Waywardson

So Christians and Patriots MUST vote for 0bama? That will be the result of not voting for Romney.

4 more years of 0bama.


157 posted on 05/05/2012 10:55:06 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: beandog

TYBO-GOPE


158 posted on 05/05/2012 10:55:06 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

TYBO-GOPE


159 posted on 05/05/2012 10:55:57 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge; Jack Hydrazine

I, too, am writing in Palin. I live in Massacusetts, so my vote doesn’t count anyway.


160 posted on 05/05/2012 11:01:49 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: woodenickel

This is like “Bridge On The Rivejr Kwai”, people caught up in the vanity of principle working for the enemy.


161 posted on 05/05/2012 11:08:41 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: Waywardson
I predict an Obama win in November.
I'll vote for the RINO if I have too but, I predict an Obama win.

A write in is 100% pointless unless a white horse emerges that is better, and stands a chance.

At this point apparently, It's death by 1 million needle pricks or a machete.

I am thinking about going into the suicide booth business.

No checks no credit cards, no federal reserve notes.

Only Gold will be accepted.

162 posted on 05/05/2012 11:10:02 AM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Sure is. I don’t deny it, but whatever it takes to rid America of our Muslim President is the way I vote.

Tell you what , show me a cndidate that can beta Obama and I will vote for him/her, until then it’s Romney rather than Obama.


163 posted on 05/05/2012 11:10:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Gargantua

My vote hasn’t counted since Reagan.
I live in Washington state.


164 posted on 05/05/2012 11:13:46 AM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Waywardson
Look at the threads HERE. 60% tops

So using your current number, 60% here are going to vote for Romney on a political website that, until yesterday, was officially anti-Romney. Further, this place had been attracting a disproportionately high number of people who oppose voting for Romney, and even then it wasn't the majority opinion. And I'd dispute your 60% number anyway. Even here on FR it was obviously an overwhelming majority that were always going to vote for the GOP nominee even if it were Romney, they just felt they couldn't say so for a long time and therefore the great majority wasn't properly represented in the threads. And on most conservative websites, the fringe "won't vote for Romney" view you advocate is generally laughed at or scorned. Very few people take that seriously.

So I thought you were so concerned about division? You know, a house divided and all. Wasn't that one of the reasons you gave for not voting for Mitt? Yet, virtually all of our conservative leadership is supporting voting for Romney. Rush, Levin, Hannity, Bachmann, Palin, Perry, Newt, Cain, Bolton, all will be voting for Romney. The overwhelmingly vast majority of conservatives are going to vote for Romney as the GOP nominee. Yet you seem to be trying to divide us? Why is that?

165 posted on 05/05/2012 11:16:47 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Keith in Iowa
Barry-0 is an express train to hell. Willard is a commuter train to hell with intermediate stops. I’m not gettin’ on either one.

Sorry, you might not be 'gettin' on either but you will be ON one of them.

You obviously do not want either train. Who does? But as of right now those are the ONLY two trains out of the station.

We will ALL be on one of those two trains. WHICH one do you chose? Whether you vote for Palin, Romney, Mickey Mouse or 0bama, the only two trains are Romney or 0bama.

You/We will all be on one of those trains. ALL of America.

Going Galt will NOT keep even one single person in America off Romney's or 0bama's train.

Which do you choose?

Me? A commuter train, if it makes enough stops will allow us to live to fight another day.

166 posted on 05/05/2012 11:16:50 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Waywardson
I understand your argument, though disagree. The growing T-Party can and will pull Romney to the right if he goes wobbly, but one reason alone is enough to invalidate your arguments: Supreme Court. One more liberal vote turns the nature of the country left for the next 40 years, or forever.

Pubbies won't be able to stall for 4 more years of Obie. Some deference is always given to SC appointments, and even a little deference swings the balance. I feared --still do actually --Ginsburg would retire or pass. Current backbone in the Senate isn't strong enough to stop him. Can't be sure about the next one, either.

167 posted on 05/05/2012 11:18:04 AM PDT by chiller (Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: All

I believe we are witnessing the end of the GOP.

What will fill the vacuum?

Dictatorship?

I pray not!

I gotta go pray and load some ammo....it cheers me up.


168 posted on 05/05/2012 11:18:28 AM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Waywardson

0bamao does as he pleases, anyway. EO’s, recess appointments, refusing to enforce established Federal laws, an out of control DoJ, unaccountable Federal agencies, on and on.
Just HOW would four more years of 0bamao be any better than a Romney?
I swear, some of you people are daft and too far gone or prideful to notice it.
It is as if you all WANT some sort of conflagration, some sort of confrontation. Waiting for the days if reckoning, an endtimes scenario. As nuts and looney as the imbeciles in Iran who await the mahdi come crawling from a well.


169 posted on 05/05/2012 11:19:19 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: kabar
Indeed. The whole premise of this radio mouth's rant is insane. A second term "lame duck Obama?" The very phrase betrays an ignorance of reality so pervasive that it borders on deliberate dishonesty.

Obama would/will be unlike any other second term president in history, with his total disregard for the rule of law, contempt for traditions of American governance, and disdain for the legislative branch.

We could have solid republican majorities in both houses, and obama will simply run amok with executive orders, unauthorized appointments, rampant financial corruption and malfeasance, and judicial monstrosities like Sotomajor, until Boehner and McConnell make him stop. Since we know that won't happen, he would essentially be a dictator, in fact as well as rhetoric.

A "lame duck" obama can deconstruct the entire structure of the US government and replace it with a cancerous growth of hardcore leftwing traitors, right under our noses and we will be powerless to stop him. He's about halfway there now. If Romney fails to defeat him in November he will certainly finish the job and America as we understand it will be gone.

170 posted on 05/05/2012 11:20:02 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bill1952

“Even Jim Robinson has called for a “truce” on the Romney issue, clearly seeing that Obama Hussein must be stopped at all short term cost.”

As much as it pains me to write it, he said nothing of the sort since you are implying that he endorsed Romney. So that’s absolute horse-s*** from the Jay Carney School of Romney Journalism.
If he endorsed Romney, that would mean that FR is no longer a site for conservatives in that Mittens has made it clear (?) that he supports everything conservatives condemn and hates the things we hold dear.
Another thing—the convention is an eternity away and yet you Rombots and GOPe-ers couldn’t wait to put on your knee pads and crawl making osculating noises all the while you harry the rest of us to do the same.
There’s no question outstanding of whether we can force him to accept certain issues as planks in the GOP platform, or lose our support.
You can go to hell anyway you want, but don’t demand from me that I get in the back seat, pitch in for gas and then shut the h*** up—until you liberals need help again in 2, 4 or 6 years.
Romney’s drones asking for help from conservatives is a lot like Dick Lugar’s `Young Guns’ (!) asking that Democrats vote for him this Tuesday. It’s so damned pathetic.
FUMR! and the horse you rode in on and all your hired hands.


171 posted on 05/05/2012 11:20:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (It's the Mitt Romney Show! Howdy doody, boys & girls. Well .... it's vomit-swallowin' time again!)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

>>>Me? A commuter train, if it makes enough stops will allow us to live to fight another day.

Bully for you. I will not chose evil in any form.


172 posted on 05/05/2012 11:20:51 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Waywardson
Romney, a far more dangerous adversary than a lame duck Obama.

If you really believe this then freakin vote for 0bama.

As of right now it will be one of these two and if Romney is "far more dangerous" than you might as well vote for 0bama right?

173 posted on 05/05/2012 11:21:31 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: Manic_Episode
No vote I've ever cast in my entire life has effected my core beliefs. Practically every politician I've ever voted for, at one time or another, has disappointed.

Pat yourself on the back for your adherence to your principles...just don't try to convince me the simple political math doesn't exist.

174 posted on 05/05/2012 11:22:40 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: rawcatslyentist
Does ANYONE think Myth is gonna do better????

Comparing Romney to Bush is probably pretty accurate. But you have to decide, were we better off with Bush than Algore? Kerry? Let us know when you figure out whether we should have elected Kerry.

175 posted on 05/05/2012 11:23:37 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Waywardson
Obama wins = A united GOP and Center Right opposing every breath he takes. We win the US House and Senate.

Obama wins the presidency and Republicans win all the down-ticket races? Yeah, that's gonna happen.

176 posted on 05/05/2012 11:24:49 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Gargantua
I, too, am writing in Palin. I live in Massacusetts, so my vote doesn’t count anyway.

What is the point of wasting a write-in ballot on someone who isn't a candidate? If she were running a write-in campaign I could understand, but she isn't.

Also, if your principles won't allow you to vote for Romney, why would you write-in a non-candidate who actually will be supporting and campaigning for Romney? You do realize Palin is ABO and is going to support Mitt as the GOP nominee right?

177 posted on 05/05/2012 11:25:53 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: hinckley buzzard; All

If Kerry had won, can imagine how would a Kerry picked Supreme Court ruled on a couple of gun cases??


178 posted on 05/05/2012 11:32:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Go Mitt Go!!!)
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To: Waywardson
How very 'christian of you'.

BTW, you're listed as in Iowa. Isn't that the stupifyin' state that keeps sending dungheap Harkin to the Senate? ... Run along, doofus.

179 posted on 05/05/2012 11:36:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: cripplecreek
I have no intent of voting for either democrat. I actually have integrity.

No you don't. I understand that you think you do.

But you don't.

None of you "let obama win" troglodytes have anything resembling integrity, or principles either.

180 posted on 05/05/2012 11:38:05 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Thumper1960
It is as if you all WANT some sort of conflagration, some sort of confrontation.

Yeah, there are definitely some that are hoping for that. These sorts of folks have convinced themselves that America is too immoral to save, and many are wishing for an apocalypse to wipe the slate clean. People like this don't want to make their votes count or participate in anything that could improve our situation, they just want to convince you it is hopeless so you'll join in their fantasy world.

181 posted on 05/05/2012 11:39:00 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Le Chien Rouge
On election day, I’m writing in the Tina Fey look-a-like from Alaska. Will I be blamed for a 2nd Obama term?

Why do you care? It's obvious the vote means nothing to you, so what difference does it make who gets the most votes?

182 posted on 05/05/2012 11:40:54 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jack Hydrazine

...and void all your ballots? Good call. <S


183 posted on 05/05/2012 11:43:51 AM PDT by NathanR
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To: Waywardson

Obama wins = A united GOP and Center Right opposing every breath he takes. We win the US House and Senate.

Only thing is he will rulke by decree abd become the dictator we know him to be. So what did we win?


184 posted on 05/05/2012 11:44:12 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: Waywardson
Obama wins = A united GOP and Center Right opposing every breath he takes. We win the US House and Senate.

Only thing is he will rule by decree and become the dictator we know him to be. So what did we win?

185 posted on 05/05/2012 11:44:46 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: Longbow1969

I didn.t mention the unmitigated gall and the audacity for someone, no matter WHO they are, to question my Christianity AND my patriotism if I don’t follow their lead.
The moment you question either of those, where it pertains to me, you came kiss my lily white gluteus maximus.
The holier than thou possessors of the ultimate truth are merely expressing their opinions. As I learned, long ago, ‘’opinions’’ are like rectums: everyone has ‘em and many of them stink.


186 posted on 05/05/2012 11:46:04 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: evangmlw

See your messages.


187 posted on 05/05/2012 11:47:06 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

>>>None of you “let obama win” troglodytes have anything resembling integrity, or principles either.

If you think voting for the lesser of two evils is a principled stand, you’re further in the cave than you think I am.


188 posted on 05/05/2012 11:47:38 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Waywardson
I am a Gulf War I era veteran. Have you served?

Whatsa matter? Didn't get enough medals? So you served. So what. So did Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald. Just being a veteran doesn't mean you know bull squat about the political big picture.

You can knock that shit off right now because it won't fly.

189 posted on 05/05/2012 11:49:55 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MHGinTN

>>>BTW, you’re listed as in Iowa. Isn’t that the stupifyin’ state that keeps sending dungheap Harkin to the Senate? ... Run along, doofus.

Whatever, arse-portral.

We’ve also sent Graqssley as Senator - instrumental in Fast & Furious investigation... and Congressman Steve King - so sod off.


190 posted on 05/05/2012 11:50:05 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Waywardson
And as evidenced by the posts, so do 40% of the hard right with me.

LOL HA HA good one! You're serious? Really? You do realize that many Freepers who thought otherwise were banned, don't you? Not only that, but freepers don't constitute all of the "hard right" at all.

191 posted on 05/05/2012 11:54:39 AM PDT by NathanR
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To: NathanR

Nothing like fratricide to stifle dynamic debate.


192 posted on 05/05/2012 11:59:47 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Josa

New tagline!


193 posted on 05/05/2012 12:01:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to slee)
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To: Waywardson

We can vote for whomever we damn well please.


194 posted on 05/05/2012 12:02:33 PM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes, a lot of big shots around here hiding behind their keyboards. When the feds come a-knocking in their SWAT outfits with automatic weapons drawn, I'm sure we have lots of patriots who will go down fighting.

Not.

All those handguns will be falling to the ground like leaves in winter.

195 posted on 05/05/2012 12:06:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Thumper1960
I didn.t mention the unmitigated gall and the audacity for someone, no matter WHO they are, to question my Christianity AND my patriotism if I don’t follow their lead.

Indeed, the very title of this thread is incredibly obnoxious.

The holier than thou possessors of the ultimate truth are merely expressing their opinions.

Oh, there are lots of those types running loose here lately. It's like the gates of crazy were opened for awhile and some of the deranged managed to sneak out. Left to speak freely, the overwhelming sane majority will deal with them and hopefully we will see less and less lunacy.

196 posted on 05/05/2012 12:09:10 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: CommerceComet
I have seen a few analyses now which plausibly make the point that, from a conservative point of view, Romney could be worse than Obama.

You need a new analyst. A Psychoanalyst.

197 posted on 05/05/2012 12:09:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Ack, missed a letter


198 posted on 05/05/2012 12:10:57 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: donna
If you don’t stop voting for RINOs right now, when are you going to do it?

If a person can rationalize voting for a 100%, dyed-in-the-wool RINO progressive like Romney, imagine how easy it will be to vote for a 90% RINO next time when the GOP-e "hears" our concerns and delivers up only a slightly-less smelly plate of crap for dinner?

To someone else's question about whether Romney is more moderate than former Republican nominees

HELL, YES! Romney is the embodiment of his dad's favorite, Nelson Rockefeller. You remember him? He was the leader in the wing of the Republican Party which led to the Goldwater and Reagan Revolutions in opposition. Romney won't tell you this now but he's been an avowed enemy of conservatism his entire political career.

199 posted on 05/05/2012 12:17:12 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

You know, it’s funny.

I belong to a Slovak parish. The Pastor and Assistant Pastor both lived in Communist Slovakia. They have told me that nothing takes away your bravado more than having a gun to your child’s head. Nothing. They saw many a brave parent give it all up when a child was at stake.

And they didn’t come to your house and threaten to shoot you. They took your children from school or from the field and had them when your door opened.

Any person who can tell me that he/she will be a big shot while soldiers are raping their daughter or cutting off the fingers of their son, is lying.

ABO


200 posted on 05/05/2012 12:17:56 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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