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US should return stolen land to Indian tribes, says United Nations
Guardian.com ^ | Friday 4 May 2012 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 05/05/2012 12:22:32 PM PDT by tom h

UN's correspondent on indigenous peoples urges government to act to combat 'racial discrimination' felt by Native Americans

A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.

James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, said no member of the US Congress would meet him as he investigated the part played by the government in the considerable difficulties faced by Indian tribes.

Anaya said that in nearly two weeks of visiting Indian reservations, indigenous communities in Alaska and Hawaii, and Native Americans now living in cities, he encountered people who suffered a history of dispossession of their lands and resources, the breakdown of their societies and "numerous instances of outright brutality, all grounded on racial discrimination".

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Good idea. They can have the land back the minute they give the rest of America:

1) A check for the present-day value of the scalps Indians took and the other lives that were lost.

2) A check for the present-day value of the welfare, handouts, and other benefits they have received during the past 100 years since Roosevelt's New Deal.

3) A check for the unfair business advantages each tribe has accured from the monopoly on gambling casinos, nationwide; this was a huge loss in opportunity cost to the rest of America. The checks would be debited from the personal bank accounts of each Native American who received this ill-gotten money.

4) Lastly, they would have to prove, in writing, why Native Americans were using the land of North America more wisely and more efficiently than the NOrthern Europeans who migrated here in the 15th through the 21st centuries. They would have to prove that it would have been more humane, from a cosmic perspective, to let 50 million Europeans die in their homelands while Indians used the great empty continent of North America without interruption to their nomadic lifestyle. Because essentially, that is the UN's thesis.

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1 posted on 05/05/2012 12:22:39 PM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h
What stolen land?
2 posted on 05/05/2012 12:24:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: tom h

They need to take a number. I’m still waiting for that purple sparkly skillets farting unicorn Hussein promised me four years ago.


3 posted on 05/05/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by bgill
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To: tom h

I want the UN to give back the land they currently occupy and the taxpayer money they’re stealing from us for it.


4 posted on 05/05/2012 12:25:28 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ReneeLynn

It was a gift from Nelson Rockefeller...


5 posted on 05/05/2012 12:27:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tom h

The UN needs to give back all the money that the US ever gave them.


6 posted on 05/05/2012 12:27:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: tom h

The UN can go F themselves. I can just see some blue-helmeted low level army officer guy from a 3rd world country landing somewhere in Western Pennsylvania, with that proclamation demanding some farmer turn over his land. Later I can see a new trophy, including a blue helmet on top, mounted above a fireplace, replacing the Buck shot while hunting some years earlier.


7 posted on 05/05/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: tom h

We outta put the UN on a reservation.


8 posted on 05/05/2012 12:30:07 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: tom h
File this under "Who Cares"


9 posted on 05/05/2012 12:30:19 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: tom h
A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.

And some actually WANT to legalize drugs....

10 posted on 05/05/2012 12:31:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Did he pay the current expenses too?


11 posted on 05/05/2012 12:32:56 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: tom h
Good idea. They can have the land back the minute they give the rest of America:

Hmmmm. I agree. What our great, great, great grandfathers did has been repayed....in full. I live in Western Oklahoma. The Indians get free houses, free medical, free car plates (with their tribe's name), free food, free education at the university of their choice....and a check from the local casino. I have Indians wanting to sell their monthly food allotment, because a family of 10 couldn't possibly eat what the free truck, provided by tax payers, gives them. By the way, the 10 lb. block of cheese is excellent. Worth the $5.00 my Indian neighbor sells it to me for......and it lasts me about a year....

12 posted on 05/05/2012 12:35:52 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: tom h

Cut of their welfare and make them pay taxes on thier casinos.


13 posted on 05/05/2012 12:35:52 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: tom h

14 posted on 05/05/2012 12:36:49 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: tom h
And to prove just how unbiased the UN is, they chose a Native American to lead this important study.

Has about as much credibility as Hitler assigning Joseph Goebbels to lead a study proving that Nazis were not racist.

15 posted on 05/05/2012 12:40:01 PM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h

Anyone that thinks -anyone- at the UN cares about American Indians.. is on dumboral..
Probably eye rolling and drooling..

If he/she comes up to you and starts talking..
Slowly.. move away and do not turn your back on him/her..


16 posted on 05/05/2012 12:45:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: tom h

Yeah, just as soon as the UN persudes China to give Tibet back to the Tibetans.


17 posted on 05/05/2012 12:48:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The President who ate the dog, will wag the dog.)
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To: tom h

Who gets Elizabeth Warren under this plan? Could be a deal breaker.


18 posted on 05/05/2012 12:49:38 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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says United Nations
You got so much time on your hands you're worrying about America Indians?
How about the poor SOBs in North Korea?
You worthless feckin' cowards.
19 posted on 05/05/2012 12:49:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: tom h
And we pay how many tens of billions of dollars a year for this garbage?

No wonder we're so far in debt

20 posted on 05/05/2012 12:52:20 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: tom h

Hey, we’ve found out through the relatives doing ancestry checks that my husband is about 33% Native American, does he get his share even though he’s never been on any NA tribal roles?

Or better yet, can we build a casino on the land we already own? We’ve found Indian artifacts on it so we know it belonged the the Native Americans.

Next thing we’ll have to give the buffalo back their native lands. Oh, they’re already trying to do that with Agenda 21 or whatever that is called.


21 posted on 05/05/2012 12:58:59 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tom h
From his bio:

Among his noteworthy activities, he participated in the drafting of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and was the lead counsel for the indigenous parties in the case of Awas Tingni v. Nicaragua, in which the Inter-American Court of Human Rights for the first time upheld indigenous land rights as a matter of international law.

So he works a new law through his leftists friends, then uses the new law to shake down wealthy Western countries.

Much like lawyers have done since time immemorial.

22 posted on 05/05/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: tom h

They will also have to prove eminent domain. Can they prove they didn’t rise out of some primordial swamp and evolve into present day Indians? They migrated to the US from Asia (as we were told) over a land bridge from Russia. Can they prove they didn’t displace whatever indigenous people that were here already?


23 posted on 05/05/2012 1:01:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: tom h

UN ? What a ****ing joke. They can as Dick Cheney puts it, they can go **** themselves.


24 posted on 05/05/2012 1:08:48 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I wonder if the suits at the UN believe that the Arab Muslims should give large chunks of Europe back to the indigenous Europeans, and large chunks of Britain back to the native islanders?


25 posted on 05/05/2012 1:12:37 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: tom h

Heck, just give ‘em all of flyover country.

After all, nobody of consequence lives there.

/sarcasn


26 posted on 05/05/2012 1:13:30 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: tom h

Plenty of the land was paid for.

The rest was paid in blood for.

We do not give losers back their lost land. Or land we paid for.

This is just trying to balkanize the United States people against each other. That’s all that’s been going on since the 1960s.


27 posted on 05/05/2012 1:14:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: tom h

It’s also been discovered that european remains were found in North America that seriously predate the indians. We are actually the Native Americans.


28 posted on 05/05/2012 1:16:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: tom h

Starting with the land the UN building sits on in New York City!


29 posted on 05/05/2012 1:16:17 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: ScreamingFist

“I live in Western Oklahoma. The Indians get free houses, free medical, free car plates (with their tribe’s name), free food, free education at the university of their choice....and a check from the local casino. I have Indians wanting to sell their monthly food allotment, because a family of 10 couldn’t possibly eat what the free truck, provided by tax payers, gives them. By the way, the 10 lb. block of cheese is excellent. Worth the $5.00 my Indian neighbor sells it to me for......and it lasts me about a year.... “

****

It’s the same liberal white guilt crap in canada where I’m from: canada.

They call them “First Nations” and you name it: no tax on sales, no tax on property, $3000 per month of housing and allowance and 5 hectares of land which accrues every 4 years. I had a FN girlfriend back then and if I married her, I would be on easy street right now and set for life. My family (if it happened) would have free education and another set of land ready for them.


30 posted on 05/05/2012 1:21:13 PM PDT by max americana
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To: tom h

I thought about it long and hard and I’ve decided that they are right.

We should give them back North Carolina, West Virginia, Delaware, Washington, D.C., New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Main, Ohio, Minnesota, Illinois, New Mexico, Colorado, California, Oregon, and Washington.

Immediately.


31 posted on 05/05/2012 1:24:33 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: tom h

WHY are we still part of the UN? Give them a trillion dollars to relocate to somewhere in Africa. Please, oh please, God!


32 posted on 05/05/2012 1:25:53 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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“James Anaya, the UN special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples”

I wonder if Mr James Anaya could even bring himself to refer to indigenous Britons as “the native islanders”? It drives the progressive liberati mad when you mention the indigenous islanders of Britain.

33 posted on 05/05/2012 1:27:59 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: tom h

Would Injuns even WANT any big city after what liberals have done to it?


34 posted on 05/05/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: max americana

“Some” Canadians were pretty mean to their Indians and beat Indian children for wanting to identify themselves as Indians. On the other hand the USA had the Trail of Tears (but longer ago).

However, in the end it was a frank story of conquest. How many conquests does the UN want to unroll? It goes back to the beginning of time.


35 posted on 05/05/2012 1:31:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: tom h

Give them the blue states.


36 posted on 05/05/2012 1:34:07 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: tom h
A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.

Let's start with the UN building. Isn't it on what was once Native land?

37 posted on 05/05/2012 1:34:24 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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By the way, the 10 lb. block of cheese is excellent. Worth the $5.00 my Indian neighbor sells it to me for......and it lasts me about a year....

I re-read my post. What I was trying to say is my friend gets a 10 lb. block of cheese, EVERY month. Even he thinks this is too much. These are good people,the man drives a $40,000 SUV, he's not hurting.....

38 posted on 05/05/2012 1:53:01 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: tom h

Ok, as long as they agree to go back to living in the Stone Age.


39 posted on 05/05/2012 2:01:24 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: yank in the UK

And that includes the Persian empire and the north half of India that Caucasians where chased out of approximately 13,000 years ago. I want all of it back.


40 posted on 05/05/2012 2:25:49 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“How many conquests does the UN want to unroll? It goes back to the beginning of time.”

Exactly. The UN is a waste of time but a great target.


41 posted on 05/05/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by max americana
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To: EGPWS

>>A United Nations investigator probing discrimination against Native Americans has called on the US government to return some of the land stolen from Indian tribes as a step toward combatting continuing and systemic racial discrimination.
>
>And some actually WANT to legalize drugs....

Well, to be honest the reason I’m against the current drug laws is that they are illegitimate: the 18th amendment proves that to do the sort of regulation/prohibition that they currently impose requires a Constitutional amendment.

The reason that I’m against the War on Drugs (WoD) is that the enforcement has given rise to horribly contra-constitutional practices: no-knock raids, property confiscation (prior to conviction), and so forth. Furthermore, the WoD reallocates prosecution from actual (though ‘tougher’ [to convict]) crimes like corruption to these ‘easier’ crimes.


42 posted on 05/05/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tom h

What about Mexico and all the Central and South America Nations?


43 posted on 05/05/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: tom h
A little perspective...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvC5KWD80qQ&feature=bf_next&list=PL6A9F4805E14B0E11&index=14

44 posted on 05/05/2012 2:37:27 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: tom h

Give Israel back to the Israelis!
Give Iran back to the Persians!
Give France back to the Franks!


45 posted on 05/05/2012 2:50:54 PM PDT by Rytas
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To: tom h

Jerks like this are the reason I paint blue helmets on my silhouette targets.


46 posted on 05/05/2012 3:18:42 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: ScreamingFist

Oh man, where do you sign up for this kind of cheese. My cats love it.


47 posted on 05/05/2012 3:24:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: tom h

Elizabeth (Paleface) Warren in MA got a heads up before this was released so she could stake her claim to the spoils....


48 posted on 05/05/2012 3:24:34 PM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: tom h

The UN should turn the land its buildings occupy back to the city of New York, and get the hell out of the USA.


49 posted on 05/05/2012 3:24:57 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Zman

If you’re a half breed do you have to pay reparations to yourself???


50 posted on 05/05/2012 3:28:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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