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The bone-shattering truth: U.S. football is doomed
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 04, 2012 | John Kass

Posted on 05/05/2012 1:03:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

With the apparent suicide of NFL great Junior Seau, who played 20 years in the world's most violently glamorous sport, American football is dying.

It's about time. The nationally televised gambling and meat-rendering factory cannot survive without new players.

And the parents of future players are asking themselves this:

Is football worth it for my child?

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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh, humbug. The Texans just picked their 2012 cheerleading squad.

http://www.houstontexans.com/cheerleaders/cheer-finalists.html

Lookin’ pretty healthy to me.


51 posted on 05/05/2012 1:39:49 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: MinorityRepublican
My understanding is that there's been a long term research study at at least one major US medical school (Boston University Medical School,one of the finest in the world) on the long term effects of head injuries.IIRC they've found that even several noteworthy (*my* word) head injuries can lead to serious consequences down the line.In fact,I think they've found autopsy results on deceased NFL players which show that their brains had turned to mush ("mush" being *my* word).

I'm a pretty masculine guy (who *loves* football) but it's hard to argue with data found by reputable medical researchers.There's sure to be additional research and,depending on what it shows,it could very well effect the sport substantially.Haven't heard of any research of this sort being performed on NHL players...that,too,would be interesting,IMO.

52 posted on 05/05/2012 1:40:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: freedumb2003

Actually, MMA is considerably safer than boxing, at least when repeated concussive injuries are concerned. Boxers wearing 10-12 oz. gloves take repeated headshots that, if not for the gloves, would KO them and end the fight. Kid Akeem, Sergei Artemiev and many others lasted far too long in fights and were either killed or permanently removed from boxing because of this.


53 posted on 05/05/2012 1:40:53 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

QPR’s going to be in a fight to the end.


54 posted on 05/05/2012 1:42:50 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: biggredd1
was football responsible for Seau “falling asleep” and driving off a cliff.

Maybe,maybe not.I'm not a neurologist,neurosurgeon or neuropathologist and I assume you're not either.If my assumption is correct then *neither* of us are qualified to answer that question.

55 posted on 05/05/2012 1:44:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: WKUHilltopper

My parents for one. I attended a Football Camp at USC while I was in school and was quite a good WR but I also was highly ranked in the State in Tennis.

I quit Football as soon as we discovered A) It’s populated by brain-dead idiots who want to destroy your knees and B) Tennis was a much more satisfying sport that I can play throughout my life.

The best and brightest athletes aren’t going into Football anymore for those reasons listed above.

Did I mention that I really like being able to walk at 30?


56 posted on 05/05/2012 1:44:17 PM PDT by Black_Shark ( Who)
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To: goseminoles
"Why can’t consenting adults participate in sports? They know the risk. Damn the government."

Well now the problem is these "consenting Adults" at the Pro Level who get paid over 380k at a minimum want to sue everybody because they got concussions.

I have no problem with people doing what they wish wherein they might get hurt. I do have a problem with them suing someone because they bashed their brains around and now think they are entitled to a payoff.

57 posted on 05/05/2012 1:46:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The deeper and more important question is middle school, high school and college football. These programs suck up money from the educational system, generate horrific injuries and have no benefit to the players.
Let adults play football in return for a salary. They can choose to take the risks. But don’t waste K-12 budgets on risky sports or burn out college kids and waste taxpayer money on football.


58 posted on 05/05/2012 1:47:00 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: South Hawthorne

a little premature? a little?? /sarc


59 posted on 05/05/2012 1:47:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Since the entire Country is doomed if Obama gets Reelected, why should the NFL be exempt?
60 posted on 05/05/2012 1:48:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Black_Shark

Actually tennis is a great sport, but it can be very tough on knees. And long distance running? My uncle is a world class marathoner who had both knees replaced at 50. Both are non-contact.


61 posted on 05/05/2012 1:51:09 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Difference Between Football And Football

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62 posted on 05/05/2012 1:53:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Mad Dawgg

If you ask most ex-NFL players if it was “worth it”, the VAST majority say yes. Just to get to play at that level.


63 posted on 05/05/2012 1:53:23 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Red6
As America becomes queer the youth will be less interested, and helicopter mothers concerned about if their kids took all their allergy medicine that morning would prevent them from playing anyhow. Fat kids, medicated, eating fast food because both parents work, growing up watching TV and playing a gaming machine shouldn't be exposed to the vast risks associated with American football.

There is a reason why soccer is rapidly growing in suburban America. It's much less violent and the way it is played also allows everyone to be a winner on many of these youth teams!

Soccer as played in the rest of the world is different. Arsenal defender Bacary Sagna broke his leg today for the second time this season. His coach had this to say:

'It is broken fibula, the same leg. He was kicked on it, it has not happened alone.

'When he was kicked, he has broken the leg. The guy closed him down and walked on him. I dont know if it was deliberate or not.'

Just a plain mean lack of sportsmanship. Not the sterotypical soccer attitude that many have in the USA.

64 posted on 05/05/2012 1:53:50 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: boop

True that’s why I prefer clay. Preserves the knees.

It also doesn’t compare to a 250lb linebacker spearing you in the side of the knee. That absolutely shatters em.

Kudos to your Uncle. I was a sub 17min 5k’er in High School so I know how rough that is on the body. Running may the most mentally-challenging and physically painful sport ever invented.


65 posted on 05/05/2012 1:54:03 PM PDT by Black_Shark ( Who)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not going to happen. Football is not going away. Too many billionaire owners have too much to loose should that happen and that’s the bottom line.


66 posted on 05/05/2012 1:56:34 PM PDT by skimask
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To: ArmstedFragg
QPR’s going to be in a fight to the end.

Considering their finale is on the road with Manchester City who will be playing for the championship, they'd better win tomorrow! And a lot will ride on who does better agsinst Stoke.

67 posted on 05/05/2012 1:59:34 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MinorityRepublican

If fewer Americans youth play, other countries will be glad to provide players. The Samoans have sent a lot of players to the NFL (including Seau) and a few very good Africans have emerged.


68 posted on 05/05/2012 2:02:53 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: MinorityRepublican

With the kind of money the players get in the big leagues, there will always be young men who want to play, and parents who are willing to let their kids take the risk.


69 posted on 05/05/2012 2:03:43 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: South Hawthorne
my Dad played with a leather helmet and no facial protection in the late 20’s, early thirties. He lived a great (stable) life, remained married to the same woman for many years, and raised a house full of good, productive kids. All the boys played college football - only one bar across the face in my day. My wife may disagree, but I think I am mentally OK.

IMO the percentage of mental type injuries among all players is very small, tiny - better to outlaw driving cars. (sarc)

70 posted on 05/05/2012 2:04:20 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

In 1905, 18 football players were killed and 159 severely injured.

President Teddy Roosevelt threatened to outlaw the game by executive order unless changes were made to eliminate the mass brawls that caused so much damage.

And lo! Changes were made, including requiring 6 men on the line of scrimmage (later changed to 7), requiring a neutral zone, no interlocking blocking, no flying tackles, no slugging, allowing the forward pass and a number of other changes.

The game will evolve and survive.


71 posted on 05/05/2012 2:06:14 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: MinorityRepublican
Nahh, they just need bigger helmets.
72 posted on 05/05/2012 2:07:11 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Football IS America’s sport.

The only thing more boring to me than soccer is golf. No, wait. Baseball.

Nanny staters are trying to make sitzpinklers out of men. The other Freeper who mentioned the NFL is doomed because it is a sport no woman is likely ever going to play at a professional level may be on to something.

As was the poster who suggested that soccer was the perfect socialist/communist sport.


73 posted on 05/05/2012 2:18:52 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: SkyDancer

I love Rugby “League”, Rugby “Union”, not so much.


74 posted on 05/05/2012 2:19:47 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God (And he means it))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Anyone remember when Rush had a few radio shows with bleeding hearts relating the damage caused by soccer balls. It was hilarious and sad. Some people are sheep to be monetarily fleeced.


75 posted on 05/05/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: FatherofFive
Hayek knew of what he spoke:


76 posted on 05/05/2012 2:24:55 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Got that from a friend who’s always kidding me about American football.


77 posted on 05/05/2012 2:27:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: MinorityRepublican

John kAss.... ****head extraordinaire.


78 posted on 05/05/2012 2:29:40 PM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Joe Theismann got his lower leg snapped live on national television, during a Monday Night Football broadcast. If that didn’t get the game shut down, concussions won’t. Sorry.


79 posted on 05/05/2012 2:34:31 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: varmintman

Soccer was invented by European women who needed something to do while their men did the cooking.


80 posted on 05/05/2012 2:34:55 PM PDT by Stand W (Crush your enemies! See them driven before you! Hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Idiotic article.

Point #1. — Ghettos are filled with kids that would give their left nut to play in the NFL. The will do anything to get into pro sports, and if they can’t get into the NBA, then to the NFL it is. The very idea that they MIGHT get dementia from concussions or from steriods when they are 40 years old is going to be the last thing from their minds as they watch 14 year old friends and relatives shot down dead in gang wars. Believe me, they will take the $10 million career pay and dementia at 40 every day of the week.

Football is not going anywhere.

Point #2. — The NFL has never been more aggressive in reducing contact and concussions and injuries in its history.

Just an idiotic article. US Football is not going anywhere, but maybe up, or maybe expanding overseas. It is a great spectator sport and there is no loss of college players fighting to make it to the NFL. Any other suggestion is laughable.


81 posted on 05/05/2012 2:43:19 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: RichInOC
Joe Theismann got his lower leg snapped live on national television, during a Monday Night Football broadcast. If that didn’t get the game shut down, concussions won’t. Sorry.


82 posted on 05/05/2012 2:44:14 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hey Kass, the Super Bowl is generally the highest rated telecast of the year. Every year. Let me know when it slips to #2 routinely, and I might start to consider listening to you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/20/business/media/20ratings.html


83 posted on 05/05/2012 2:59:29 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Madonna was the featured performer for the halftime show at the last Super Bowl. That show also included a cast of characters known as LMFAO, Nicki Minaj, M.I.A. and Cee Lo Green. Maybe I'm getting old, but I have no idea what these other creatures are.

That was more likely for the huge TV audience for whom the Superbowl was the first and last game they watched for the year.

84 posted on 05/05/2012 3:05:36 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Madonna was the featured performer for the halftime show at the last Super Bowl. That show also included a cast of characters known as LMFAO, Nicki Minaj, M.I.A. and Cee Lo Green. Maybe I'm getting old, but I have no idea what these other creatures are.

That was more likely for the huge TV audience for whom the Superbowl was the first and last game they watched for the year.

85 posted on 05/05/2012 3:05:44 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Madonna was the featured performer for the halftime show at the last Super Bowl. That show also included a cast of characters known as LMFAO, Nicki Minaj, M.I.A. and Cee Lo Green. Maybe I'm getting old, but I have no idea what these other creatures are.

That was more likely for the huge TV audience for whom the Superbowl was the first and last game they watched for the year.

86 posted on 05/05/2012 3:05:44 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Madonna was the featured performer for the halftime show at the last Super Bowl. That show also included a cast of characters known as LMFAO, Nicki Minaj, M.I.A. and Cee Lo Green. Maybe I'm getting old, but I have no idea what these other creatures are.

That was more likely for the huge TV audience for whom the Superbowl was the first and last game they watched for the year.

87 posted on 05/05/2012 3:05:59 PM PDT by Hacksaw (If I had a son, he'd look like George Zimmerman.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I prefer the lingerie league.


88 posted on 05/05/2012 3:06:04 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

If senseless death and violence were enough to deter parents from allowing their children to participate in an activity, the cesspool known as “hip hop” and/or “rap” music would be as dead as the buggy whip industry.


89 posted on 05/05/2012 3:10:46 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MinorityRepublican

Rush predicted this some time ago.


90 posted on 05/05/2012 3:13:00 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

It’s a crock. Try dong this on ice for 45 seconds at a clip for 60 minutes. With all the banging going and hitting going on and there are fewer injuries and concussions... Why?

Here is the problem. You have artificially enhanced players who now run faster, are stronger with emotions that can barely be checked. It comes down to steroids.

The fact that the punishment is ridiculous gives football teams and it’s players a positive risk/reward ratio which makes the fines and potential loss of a players life after his career ends worth it.

One other factor needs to be considered. These are warriors and when their career ends the boredom and emotional trauma of it are very stressful.


91 posted on 05/05/2012 3:15:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I'm not trying to hate on the guys opinion. I just can't stand stupidity from knee jerk emotionalism. A guy dies and he declares the end of the world. That is a lie and he knows it. He just wants to spout off.

Here are the top 50 Neilson rated telecasts of all time. You tell me if Football is not here to stay. 9 of the top 16 are Super Bowls. 22 of the 50 are Super Bowls with one being a NFC Championship. No other sport even rated a top 50. No TV show is listed more than twice. Roots is the only non football telecast that is listed more than twice. The Superbowl simply DOMINATES TV ratings. Nothing comes close.

1 -- M*A*S*H Special

2 -- Dallas (Who Shot JR)

3 -- Roots Pt. VIII

4 -- Super Bowl XVI Game

5 -- Super Bowl XVII Game

6 -- XVII Winter Olympics - Wed-2

7 -- Super Bowl XX Game

8 -- Gone With The Wind-Pt.1

9 -- Gone With The Wind-Pt.2

10 -- Super Bowl XII Game

11 -- Super Bowl XIII Game

12 -- Bob Hope Christmas Show

13 -- Super Bowl XVIII Game

14 -- Super Bowl XIX Game

15 -- Super Bowl XIV Game

16 -- Super Bowl XXX Game 17 -- ABC Sunday Night Movie (The Day After)

18 -- Roots Pt. VI

19 -- The Fugitive

20 -- Super Bowl XXI Game

21 -- Roots Pt. V

22 -- Super Bowl XXVIII Game

23 -- Cheers

24 -- Ed Sullivan

25 -- Super Bowl XXVII

26 -- Bob Hope Christmas Show

27 -- Roots Pt. III

28 -- Super Bowl XXXII Game

29 -- Super Bowl XI Game

30 -- Super Bowl XV Game

31 -- Super Bowl VI Game

32 -- XVII Winter Olympics - Fri-2

33 -- Roots Pt. II ABC

34 -- Beverly Hillbillies

35 -- Roots Pt. IV

36 -- Ed Sullivan

37 -- Super Bowl XXIII Game

38 -- Academy Awards

39 -- Super Bowl XXXI Game

40 -- Super Bowl XXXIV Game

41 -- Thorn Birds Pt. III

42 -- Super Bowl XLII Game

43 -- Thorn Birds Pt. IV

44 -- NFC Championship Game

45 -- Beverly Hillbillies

46 -- Super Bowl VII Game

47 -- Super Bowl XLI Game

48 -- Thorn Birds Pt. II

49 -- Super Bowl IX Game

50 -- Super Bowl X Game

92 posted on 05/05/2012 3:21:03 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Speaking of dying... I “lol” @ your disgusting worthless plague of a city and its communist citizens Chicago.


93 posted on 05/05/2012 3:24:42 PM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: MinorityRepublican

If anything, helmets will be enhanced to reduce the problem, along with perhaps some more rule changes. Equipment has already changed radically over the years, this will be no big deal and won’t really affect the nature of the game.

Seau was a personal favorite of mine, I’ll never understand why he did what he did. Even if there were a medical problem, you would think he’d look for a medical solution rather than not getting to see his children grow up. Tragic indeed.


94 posted on 05/05/2012 3:25:25 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: rlmorel

For many decades, baseball was called “America’s pasttime”. It was entrenched long before football became popular. Basketball is the new kid on the block.


95 posted on 05/05/2012 3:26:53 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Here are the top 50 Neilson rated telecasts of all time. You tell me if Football is not here to stay

Well, you don't see the Bob Hope Christmas Special anymore.
96 posted on 05/05/2012 3:28:51 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

Because Bob for Texaco is dead.


97 posted on 05/05/2012 3:29:49 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And a BIG thank you for not posting the youtube video on that. If I never see that clip again and Lawrence Taylor beating on his own helmet in horror, it will be too soon.


98 posted on 05/05/2012 3:30:11 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; BenLurkin
The last American sport women don’t play.

YOU HUSH YO' MOUF!

99 posted on 05/05/2012 3:41:41 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: RichInOC

“Joe Theismann got his lower leg snapped live on national television, during a Monday Night Football broadcast.”

That hurts just remembering watching that...and the replay...and the next one...and the next one....


100 posted on 05/05/2012 3:42:04 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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