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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2879805/posts?q=1&;page=1#1 ^ | May 6, 2012 | Seizethecarp

Posted on 05/06/2012 8:09:35 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Attention "Anyone But Obama" (ABO) FReepers! If you go to the thread at the link you will will see that JimRob has "declared a truce" and hundreds of ABO FReepers are now vigorously defending their belief, which I share, that the ineligible Marxist Manchurian MUST BE DEFEATED to preserve the Republic...without fear of "the ZOT"! Please consider a DONATION not just to fund renewal of expression and amplification of your ABO views, but let's over-achieve this FReepathon to get JR his new equipment!

IMO, Free Republic and FReepers could be vital in swing states in rallying just enough conservatives to tip the election and prevent our troops from having to salute for even one day longer than necessary an ineligible Marxist committed to destroying the USA !


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To: Las Vegas Ron; Elsie

Please stop. You are both good people.


851 posted on 05/07/2012 6:54:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mojitojoe
Elsie a little fanatical I would say.

Only a LITTLE?

DAMN!

I'm slipping!!!

852 posted on 05/07/2012 6:55:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Oh so you are talking about actaul DU trolls, not Freepers...


853 posted on 05/07/2012 6:56:04 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: A.Hun

That’ll go right over his head.


854 posted on 05/07/2012 6:58:24 AM PDT by fml
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To: mojitojoe; reaganaut
If not, your are delusional.

OCD - now delusional?

It appears we have an analyzer on our hands.

(Ignore the wrong word usage; as his prescriptions always are in in proper English.)

855 posted on 05/07/2012 6:58:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dagogo redux
Hopefully that threat, the incessant labeling of people as evil "Mittbots" because they talk about the horrors of Obama being worse, and calling in the 'cops' will end now.

Not likely with some, but hopefully the threat hanging over so many patriotic conservative's heads (who understand how destructive another four years of Obama will be) will at least recede.

That's what a whole lot of people will be waiting to see.

In the mean time, this thread has turned into a crazy religious war, and as a born-again Christian, I vowed years and years ago to never, EVER visit a "religious" thread again.

IMHO, they're demonic, and as far from Christ-like as the day is from the night.

856 posted on 05/07/2012 7:00:33 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Seizethecarp
that their religious beliefs are superior

God is Supreme, not one's beliefs - anything that is not from Him is of satan. It's all about Good vs. evil - it's not a mystery.

who denounce others for their ABO view appear to be a tiny minority.

Evil is evil whether ONE person exposes it or ONE million, it's doesn't stop being evil because of anyone agreeing with it.

Man doesn't decide what evil is, God does/has. HE has set the standard. If some have found 'their excuse' where they can bow to evil; there are, also, some who never will. There is nothing new under the sun.

857 posted on 05/07/2012 7:01:09 AM PDT by presently no screen name (God First!! VAB: Voting Against Both---> Romney and Obama.)
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To: A.Hun; EternalVigilance; CharacterCounts; All
On abortion, Romney renounced his pro choice stand, and the $50.00 copay was because of a MA state law that all government subsidized health care had to cover abortions. Abortion was already legal in MA, and Medicaid already covered abortions for low income residents.

#1: Medicaid covered abortions ONLY for rape and incest. RomneyCare went beyond rape, incest (or even life of the mother/ectopic pregnancies) abortion-coverage. Will you or will you not concede that, A. Hun?

#2 As you accurately mentioned, abortion was already legal in MA -- and the state indeed already funded abortions for low-income women under Medicaid. But as noted #1 above, that was not ALL requests for abortions by poor women...only rape & incest (& possibly LIFE of the mother).

The bottom-line of what I cover below is that RomneyCare expanded Who would receive taxpayer-funded abortions:

When we had these FREEPER discussions in late 2007 and early 2008, I didn't try to hold Romney accountable for all 7% of abortions committed by the uninsured in MA now covered by RomneyCare.

When FREEPER folks pointed out that MA was under court order to fund low-income women Medicaid eligible, I didn't contend that. What I did contend in the previous election-cycle was the 4+% of the MA population who earned/earn above Medicaid level.

Romney himself said in one of the last-election cycle debates (I heard it direct from his lips) that almost 1/4th of the MA uninsured earned $75,000 or more. That's almost 2% of the female pop in MA. From other figures I extrapolated that another 2+% earn above Medicaid & below $75,000.

While I thought it 'twas "unreasonable" to hold Romney accountable for the court order in MA aimed at low-income women, they were less than 40% of the uninsured in MA. Therefore, the crit of $50 abortion subsidies in MA still holds...especially since NOW RomneyCare has SOME abortions 100% taxpayer-funded!

For more on this, see: RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romney’s Candidacy [Enabler Mitt]

#3 ALL: FREEPER folks -- like A. Hun -- keep dodging the fact that RomneyCare, just like ObamaCare does, expands the abortion industry's reach into our wallets. If you don't believe that, click on the link I just provided and educate yourself as to what has happened to RomneyCare since he left governing that state!

Bay State taxpayers are now partially paying for abortions for mandated women who earn above Medicaid eligibility levels under RomneyCare. The court order in MA only covered low-income, Medicaid eligible women...and Romney's on-the-record comment that RomneyCare covered 7% of the MA population...and that 1/4th of them earned $75,000 or more (almost 2% of the female population). Another approximate 2-3% earned less than $75,000 but above the Medicaid line.

That's almost 5% of the female MA population who are receiving taxpayer subsidized abortions under RomneyCare who were not part of the court order...

#4 The 1981 MA Supreme Court case wasn't the only one that Romneyites hide behind. They also hide behind a 1997 state opinion.

I'll let somebody in MA who has researched this address it: The 1997 opinion stated that if the government paid for childbirth, it must also pay for "medically necessary" abortions 29, [Planned Parenthood vs. Attorney General] evidently reasoning that if the government is going to pay to help kids, it must be fair and pay to kill them also. Romney's commitment to government intervention in health care prevails even when that "health care" pays to kill them. Not only is Romney's claim false that he had no choice, but adults, let alone leaders, are never "forced" in such ways. Romney should have vetoed, rather than praised and signed, any legislation that would pay abortionists to kill children. As he did also by implementing homosexual marriage, Romney created activist judges on steroids by taking anti-family court opinions and maximizing them, in this case, by interpreting "medically necessary" to mean all abortions.
Source: Mitt Romney: Former Gov. of Massachusetts (R) Tier 4 - Personhood Never

858 posted on 05/07/2012 7:02:13 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Elsie

LOL

LV Ron is a really good guy.

I hope you two can work things through.


859 posted on 05/07/2012 7:03:27 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: mojitojoe; ejonesie22

There isn’t anyone on FR supporting Obama
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Yes..... there are!

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In fact I have encountered precisely two who said they would vote for Obama in order to accelerate the reform or destruction of the GOP. I have encountered several more than that who said they would vote for Satan/Lucifer/the devil himself in order to unseat Obama, as nothing could be worse. A half dozen or so made this remarkable argument.

Setting aside the poor logic in both arguments, Lucifer is not a natural born citizen. Besides, Lucifer wins either way this cycle, via proxy representation.


860 posted on 05/07/2012 7:05:25 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Colofornian

Great post.


861 posted on 05/07/2012 7:06:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Act in faith, not out of fear.)
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To: mojitojoe
I see this thread has turned into a religious bashing 700+ post thread.

Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy


BTW - your homepage has some excellent stuff on it.

You've put a lot of time and thought into it.

It can be used as a reference for folks looking for solid, conservative quotes from great people of the past.

862 posted on 05/07/2012 7:06:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Elsie, you are pompous and arrogant. Does that mean Ron is pompous and arrogant also?


863 posted on 05/07/2012 7:07:29 AM PDT by altura (Looking for sanity in all the wrong places.)
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To: Vendome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZRDUO1wGQ


864 posted on 05/07/2012 7:12:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22; annalex
Posted Friday on THIS THREAD

Obama gave us the Tea party. Not bad at all. Maybe we need more Obama?

I cannot figure out why would anyone with conservative convictions want Romney. Didn’t we have enough centrism since 1988 already?

487 posted on Friday, May 04, 2012 8:52:34 PM by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 449 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

annalex stated (without sarcasm tag) that Obama was better than Romney. And he's not the only one.

865 posted on 05/07/2012 7:13:05 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Psalm 144
Pretty much...

I cannot even begin to think God is pleased with where we are. Two non Christians battling it out for leadership of the Country once under his providence...

I have an understanding of how the more noble Romans felt toward the end...

866 posted on 05/07/2012 7:14:32 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Vendome
Perhaps a breather?

You mean like mow the grass?

Fix the ceiling light??

Empty the trash???

867 posted on 05/07/2012 7:14:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
IMHO, they're demonic, and as far from Christ-like as the day is from the night.

Of COURSE!!

Ephesians 6:12

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

868 posted on 05/07/2012 7:18:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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TEA Party On!

Donate here!

We have some elections to win!



869 posted on 05/07/2012 7:18:21 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Vendome

ROFL! You are in fine form today.


870 posted on 05/07/2012 7:18:29 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: ohioWfan
Actually I have made that argument as well though for my rational reasons.

It is valid based on this simple fact. Romney is a Republican, and he is a socialist. Even with majorities in both houses, the Republicans in congress will be hard pressed to support President Romney's policies since he is of the same party.

In effect Romney removes all pretense of an opposition party, what few Republicans there are who are willing to stand up will not be enough to overcome the rest combined with the Democrats who will revel in Romney's efforts.

Anyone who can't see that has not watched Congress the last few years...

871 posted on 05/07/2012 7:20:20 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ohioWfan; ejonesie22; annalex

“annalex stated (without sarcasm tag) that Obama was better than Romney.”

Heinrich Himmler’s record is objectively better than both. He too is utterly unacceptable to any decent person.


872 posted on 05/07/2012 7:20:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: ohioWfan
IMHO, they're demonic, and as far from Christ-like as the day is from the night.

You may want to re-think this part.


Ephesians 6:10-18

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

873 posted on 05/07/2012 7:20:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Psalm 144

if we were Roman pagans, our candidates would have served in the military, and would regard abortion as malevolent sorcery. Contemporary America is more degenerate than the Roman republic and even much of the empire.

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Worth a repost!


874 posted on 05/07/2012 7:21:06 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Elsie
Elsie a little fanatical I would say.

Only a LITTLE?

DAMN!

I'm slipping!!!

Is this behavior that you believe is Christ-like?

As a follower of Jesus Christ and in His Name, I am asking you to stop this.

875 posted on 05/07/2012 7:21:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Vendome; Las Vegas Ron
I hope you two can work things through.

We were both up late.

We WILL be working on it!

876 posted on 05/07/2012 7:22:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You're not 'standing your ground,' Elsie.

You're raping and pillaging.

You may want to rethink what you're doing here. Especially using Scripture to defend it.

877 posted on 05/07/2012 7:23:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: altura
Elsie, you are pompous and arrogant. Does that mean Ron is pompous and arrogant also?

Gosh; I don't know.

Use your same judging skills on his output and see.

878 posted on 05/07/2012 7:24:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan

Dont bother, she/he/it is insane and would fit right in with the westboro church. All you can do is overlook it like an annoying fly.


879 posted on 05/07/2012 7:25:03 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: metmom

If their own words are seen as an attack on Mormonism, perhaps there’s something to people’s observations about Mormonism.

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Excellent observation. Why do people attack us for quoting Mormons rather than Mormons who actually said those things?


880 posted on 05/07/2012 7:26:22 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: altura
Elsie, you are pompous and arrogant.

You appear to have me confused with a MORMON.

881 posted on 05/07/2012 7:26:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
As a follower of Jesus Christ and in His Name, I am asking you to stop this.

Stop WHAT??

Does the word DAMN! offend you?



Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 


882 posted on 05/07/2012 7:29:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mojitojoe

Not in the least. I know both groups better than you and I can support it.


883 posted on 05/07/2012 7:30:52 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: MARKUSPRIME
Dont bother, she/he/it is insane and would fit right in with the westboro church. All you can do is overlook it like an annoying fly.

Another analyzer, I see.

884 posted on 05/07/2012 7:32:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
You're raping and pillaging.

Oh?

Just WHO is being 'raped' and just WHAT spoils am I collecting?

885 posted on 05/07/2012 7:33:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

LOL. My kitten wasn’t happy either.


886 posted on 05/07/2012 7:34:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut
Why do people attack us for quoting Mormons rather than Mormons who actually said those things?

Maybe because the poeple ATTACKING us ARE mormons themselves and they CANNOT say anything bad about their own, other than "he was talking as a mere man then - not as a prophet".

887 posted on 05/07/2012 7:36:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ohioWfan
You're raping and pillaging.

Hyperbole bump!

888 posted on 05/07/2012 7:36:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: reaganaut
 



 
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the 'prophets, seers, and revelators' of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostacy..."
(Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)
 
 
 
Reinforced here......
 

MP3 File

This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:

"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."
 

 
Don't criticize?

 
 
 
 
And here:
 

Temple Recommend Questions:

 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

 5 Do you live the law of chastity?

 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

     Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

     Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 
 
 
 


Oh, they can say that their leaders were NOT speaking for GOD when they said    WHATEVER    but that's NOT the same as criticizing!


 
( Remember fellow Christians:  the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )



889 posted on 05/07/2012 7:37:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Im actually Baptist nice try though.


890 posted on 05/07/2012 7:38:02 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

A Baptist?

Carrying the water for MORMONism?

Hmmm...


891 posted on 05/07/2012 7:39:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

A Baptist?

I was saved and Baptized in a Baptist church.

Moses Lake, Washington (That’s kinda religious right there! ;^)

Best decision I ever made.


892 posted on 05/07/2012 7:41:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
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893 posted on 05/07/2012 7:42:17 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Elsie

I’ll be back later; when y’all have had a chance to catch up all the reading in this thread.

I’ll try to do that breather thing for a few hours.


894 posted on 05/07/2012 7:43:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Vendome

Doom!

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I prefer Halo myself. ;)


895 posted on 05/07/2012 7:44:37 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Psalm 144

My good gosh...I usually avoid these threads like the plague, but you have such a plethora of excellent posts going on that I had to bookmark this so I don’t miss out on any of them.


896 posted on 05/07/2012 7:44:44 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ohioWfan; Elsie
Elsie a little fanatical I would say. Only a LITTLE? DAMN! I'm slipping!!! [Elsie, #852]

Is this behavior that you believe is Christ-like? As a follower of Jesus Christ and in His Name, I am asking you to stop this. [ohioWfan]

Yeah, Elz...keep this up and who knows where this fanaticism might lead?...might even lead to you picking up a cross & following people who fanatically went to the cross to actually be tormented on behalf of others...

Such fanaticism must be checked, elsewise "prim & proper Christianity" is threatened!

Besides, Elz, why can't you channel your fanaticism into something considered "OK" by ALL FREEPERS -- like sports for example -- vs. your Christian faith?

Why can't you be like Ohio fans?...who ensure that...
...the biggest NFL stadium would be in Cleveland (former stadium held 81,000) -- tho now with their revised 73-thou in newer stadium is slipping...
...they built the 4th-largest stadium capacity in college football? (Ohio State)

If you would only channel fanaticism into these arenas, you would be "OK" & wouldn't be frowned upon on FR...
...because, after all, we know that Christians wouldn't possibly engage in football fanatical behavior...Why...that might be unChrist-like!

On the other hand...
...maybe there aren't any Christians who engage in sports/football fanaticism...
...After all, fanaticism of any sort may be subject to Freeper frowns...
...And I haven't seen any sports fanatical frowns around here, Elz, have you?
...And since we know these frowning Christians wouldn't unfairly single out only one type of fanaticism -- that they would treat it even-handedly across the board (vs. qualifying themselves as dual-faced religious hypocrites)...
...we know just know in our heart of hearts we would have heard from FREEPERs frowning upon that level of fanaticism if Christians were involved in sports fanaticism!

So must be ONLY pagan-heathens who are those Browns & Buckeyes' fans!

/sarc

897 posted on 05/07/2012 7:45:42 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Elsie

Im voting for the survival of the Republic as we know it. Im voting ABO for the defense of the US and our interests worldwide, our armed services, our space program,our economy, and the supreme court. You know for voting someone who isnt “flexible” with our defense with russia and china. Im not debating any points with you because they have been rehashed to death and you are a thick individual. So you go ahead and post your little charts,etc, and you and your little pack of foaming at the mouth jackals have at it.


898 posted on 05/07/2012 7:45:53 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: reaganaut

Awwww...lynx-point?


899 posted on 05/07/2012 7:45:56 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Don Corleone

Two things I love your tag line. In the video he doesn’t mention the name of the movie about BHO unless I missed it?.


900 posted on 05/07/2012 7:46:53 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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