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Be afraid, exultant Greek neo-Nazis warn rivals
France 24 ^

Posted on 05/06/2012 3:10:38 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

AFP - Greek neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn warned rivals and reformers Sunday that "the time for fear has come" after exit polls showed them securing their entry in parliament for the first time in nearly 40 years.

"The time for fear has come for those who betrayed this homeland," Golden Dawn leader Nikos Michaloliakos told a news conference at an Athens hotel, flanked by menacing shaven-headed young men.

"We are coming," the 55-year-old said as supporters threw firecrackers outside.

According to updated exit polls, the once-marginal party will end up winning over six percent of the vote and sending 19 deputies to the 300-seat parliament on a wave of immigration and crime fears, as well as anti-austerity anger.

Exulting in the apparent breakthrough, Michaloliakos quoted Julius Caesar: "Veni, Vidi, Vici" -- I came, I saw, I conquered.

Michaloliakos said his party would fight against "world usurers" and the "slavery" of an EU-IMF loan agreement which he likened to a "dictatorship".

"Greece is only the beginning," he shouted at reporters as he walked to the news conference, accusing foreign media of spreading lies about his movement.

At the last general election in 2009, the virulently anti-immigrant group had scored just 0.29 percent.

Once part of the country's political fringe, the Hryssi Avgi (Golden Dawn) had already made headlines in 2010 by electing Michaloliakos, 55, to Athens' city council on a wave of anti-immigration tension in the capital's poorer districts.

Shortly after being elected to the council thanks to more than 10,000 votes in the Greek capital, Michaloliakos made waves by giving two fascist salutes captured by a television camera.

A mathematician, Michaloliakos has said Greece could survive "very nicely" without the EU-IMF recovery deal.

"Certainly we should break the agreement," he told the Athens News English-language weekly last month.

"After that, we will survive very nicely. Greece is a rich country," he said, adding that the country would not necessarily have to return to the drachma.

On his agenda, Michaloliakos said his focus would be on "national issues, social issues, the problem of illegal immigration, attribution of responsibility for all scandals."

All illegal migrants "should leave our country," he said.

Golden Dawn has strengthened on the back of the country's deep economic crisis -- it has been bailed out twice -- with unemployment at 20 percent and poverty rising.

It has portrayed immigrants as stealing Greeks' jobs and as being responsible for a wave of crime, as the country is the first point of entry for many illegal migrants into the European Union.

The mainstream parties on the right, including New Democracy of the country's likely next prime minister Antonis Samaras, have been forced to boost their own anti-migration rhetoric to keep up.

The outgoing coalition government planned a network of detention camps around the country to hold migrants earmarked for repatriation, and its socialist predecessors began building a wire fence on the Greek-Turkish border as a deterrent.

With Greece the main entry-point for illegal migrants into Europe, thousands of migrants unable to cross to other EU states due to legal constraints have created urban ghettos in Athens, Patras and other cities.

Hostility from local residents has spiked in recent months with the deterioration of an economic crisis that has brought recession and hundreds of thousands of job losses in Greece.


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So, can someone explain to me why this group (ugly as they are) getting 7 percent of the vote is worse than the child-stealing, gulag-addicted Communists getting 8.5 percent of the vote?
1 posted on 05/06/2012 3:10:42 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

When you grow your “moocher” class to an unsustainable level there is no violence-free way out.


2 posted on 05/06/2012 3:18:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Sorry but I won’t take the media’s word for it when they call anyone not wearing a swastika a “Nazi.”.


3 posted on 05/06/2012 3:19:42 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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So, can someone explain to me why this group (ugly as they are) getting 7 percent of the vote is worse than the child-stealing, gulag-addicted Communists getting 8.5 percent of the vote?

Because the socialist/communist media is biased toward communism.

4 posted on 05/06/2012 3:19:42 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Can anyone explain to me why this group, Golden Dawn, is labeled as “Neo-nazi”?


5 posted on 05/06/2012 3:22:42 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: gorush
When you grow your “moocher” class to an unsustainable level there is no violence-free way out.

You are the first of many to come in the future that will make that statement.

Until it changes to "We have grown our moocher class to an unsustainable level so that is why we have the violence we have".

6 posted on 05/06/2012 3:26:10 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SatinDoll
Probably because of the design of their flag.

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7 posted on 05/06/2012 3:30:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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So, can someone explain to me why this group (ugly as they are) getting 7 percent of the vote is worse than the child-stealing, gulag-addicted Communists getting 8.5 percent of the vote?

I'm going to guess that the vast majority of the people who voted for them, did so out of anti-immigrant sentiment than any actual neo-Nazi sentiment.

The "mainstream" conservative party (such as it is) has been put on notice: curtail immigration and balance the budget, or be replaced entirely in the next election.

8 posted on 05/06/2012 3:33:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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Can anyone explain to me why this group, Golden Dawn, is labeled as “Neo-nazi”?

Their politics are based on socialistic types of government promotion.

9 posted on 05/06/2012 3:37:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

He sounds just like Ubama.


10 posted on 05/06/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: EGPWS

This is not a fascist political symbol.

It is an ancient Greek symbol, called Greek Key, found all over ancient temples and pottery, even as far back as 3000 years ago. See:

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=altavista&va=greek+key+pattern

The following link will take you to a photo of a plate with the symbol painted just below the belly of the creature on the plate (7th century BC).

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plate_Sphinx_Cdm_Paris_73.jpg

This symbol is oftentimes found connected, in continous friezes, running along under the eaves of temple buidlings.


11 posted on 05/06/2012 3:48:27 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Greek Nazis? Let me guess: “Never On Saturday.”


12 posted on 05/06/2012 3:52:26 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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“Their politics are based on socialistic types of government promotion.”

So does Mitt Romney, who is a self-professed Progressive, i.e., a national socialist and now heading up the Republican Party, a “neo-nazi”?.

Medicare and Social Security are both “socialistic types of government promotion”. So, does that make us all ‘neo-nazis’?

I suspect this group, Golden Dawn, has yet to be correctly described to Americans.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 3:53:34 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“Greece is only the beginning,”

That’s just what you DON’T want to be hearing!

Who knew there were neo-Nazis in Greece?

Where there ever Nazis in Greece?


14 posted on 05/06/2012 4:03:51 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: SatinDoll; EGPWS

Yeah, what you say is true, but why those colors?

I mean, come on that is pretty Nazi.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 4:07:07 PM PDT by jocon307
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“...why those colors?”

Because the ancient pottery of Greece was in three colors: black, red, and white. It was black on white ground or red on white ground. Today, the red looks to be brown because the paint was red ochre, created from iron oxide, and has rusted brown over the past 2000 - 3000 years.

You must understand that the National Socialists (Nazis) of Germany, during the 1930s, adopted much of their symbolism from the ancient world.

I suspect that Golden Dawn is a Greek nationalist party seeking seperation from European financial and political domination. As such it would not be popular with the European press or global government supporters.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 4:18:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: jocon307

Well, during WWII, German Nazis were in Greece, as occupiers.


17 posted on 05/06/2012 4:18:11 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Be afraid that it's one of the last elections you'll have.
18 posted on 05/06/2012 4:22:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Because of a party that won 21 seats? A leftist coup seems much more likely.


19 posted on 05/06/2012 4:39:01 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Europe is on the verge of collapse.


20 posted on 05/06/2012 4:59:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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