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What Sarkozy Loss Really Means for America
Breitbart.com ^ | May 6, 2012 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 05/06/2012 5:29:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

The mainstream media will attempt to spin French President Nicholas Sarkozy's loss today to Socialist challenger François Hollande as a rejection of "austerity" policies--and to urge American voters to reject the deficit-cutting politics of the Tea Party when we go to the polls in November. In fact, there are important lessons from France--and they are the precise opposite of what the media is telling us.

First, to call Sarkozy's policies "austerity" is to insult both austerity and socialism. The French government--like other European governments--sought to close its budget gap primarily by raising taxes, not by cutting the size and cost of government. Neither Sarkozy nor Hollande had the courage to confront the basic, failed structure of France's welfare-state economy, which is the fundamental cause of its budget problems.

Insofar as French politicians have relied on tax increases as the key to deficit reduction, that is far closer to the policy of U.S. President Barack Obama and his Democrats than to the approach of the Tea Party and the Republicans. Even so, American media commentators like Joan Walsh and Paul Krugman are blaming Congress and "austerity" for slow economic growth--though federal spending keeps growing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: austerity; broke; eucrisis; france; francecrisis; franceelection; hollande; sarkozy; socialism; socialists

1 posted on 05/06/2012 5:29:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It means the money Europe and the U.S. threw in to bail out these socialist countries might have well been flushed down the toliet.

Any country that throws money at these socialist countries are fools. These countries will collapse soon.


2 posted on 05/06/2012 5:35:06 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

and that is why we can not allow to become another socialist country


3 posted on 05/06/2012 5:36:58 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

the frech are actually late to the party. we have already had our episode of national delusion in which we elected a socialist. we will be de-electing him in six months.


4 posted on 05/06/2012 5:38:52 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Kaslin

the frech are actually late to the party. we have already had our episode of national delusion in which we elected a socialist. we will be de-electing him in six months.


5 posted on 05/06/2012 5:39:22 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, and the economic freeze in France will come fast as the producers turn into hoarders.


6 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:31 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Kaslin

It shows that those who suck on the public nipple can vote themselves more milk...at least until the producers run dry. This is what will happen in the USA if and when real austerity is tried. The generations of welfare recipients will vote for more welfare. This will only go on for a while, then things will collapse.


7 posted on 05/06/2012 5:40:54 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: tennmountainman

Have you met the socialist Fool in Chief, Hussein 0bama? If he is allowed to remain in power he will ensure that America is pulled down with the others in a world wide depression! The MSM won’t be able to keep pretending it doesn’t exist, and it will be forced to acknowledge that the real unemployment rate is over 20 percent.


8 posted on 05/06/2012 5:43:26 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: Kaslin

Romney is our Sarkowski socialist-lite...we are in the doo-doo that’s deep....


9 posted on 05/06/2012 5:50:28 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Kaslin
there are important lessons from France {Fill in Blank}--and they are the precise opposite of what the media is telling us.

Imagine my surprise.

10 posted on 05/06/2012 5:53:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: bruinbirdman; Cincinna

Ping.


11 posted on 05/06/2012 5:57:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Kaslin

What it means is that we are surrounded by Evil on all sides.

We are outnumbered.

It is time for us to lead. It is time for us to lead with the strength of Jesus Christ. It is time for us to lead or die.

That is what it means.


12 posted on 05/06/2012 6:03:53 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kaslin

It means we won’t get to see as much of his lovely wife as before.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 6:05:35 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Democracy and islam are not compatible!)
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To: Army Air Corps; afraidfortherepublic; mojo114; seenenuf; LucyT; Think free or die; DollyCali; ...
Thanks Army Air Corps for the ping. A very good article on the economic implications of the election if a Socialist in France.

*** FRENCH POLITICS AND CULTURE PING LIST ***

*** FREEPMAIL ME IF YOU WANT TO JOIN  ***


14 posted on 05/06/2012 6:33:23 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know if there is any lesson, other than the fact that it’s going to be a tough year for incumbents.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 6:36:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Kaslin
>> First, to call Sarkozy's policies "austerity" is to insult both austerity and socialism. The French government--like other European governments--sought to close its budget gap primarily by raising taxes, not by cutting the size and cost of government <<

Forget explaining this to the mainstream media, try explaining it to Sarko's fan club on FR who is bemoaning his loss and saying he's "conservative by French standards". What the French call "conservative" is to the left of Hillary Clinton here.

16 posted on 05/06/2012 6:37:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: chris37

” It is time for us to lead. It is time for us to lead with the strength of Jesus Christ. It is time for us to lead or die.

That is what it means.”

CORRECT!


17 posted on 05/06/2012 6:38:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

ping for tomorrow


18 posted on 05/06/2012 6:39:14 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: rfreedom4u

The first wookie put a hex on her.

Where’s that picture of TFW looking at Mrs. Sarkozy with her evil eyes?


19 posted on 05/06/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: Kaslin

France will go from very, very, very Socialist to very, very, very, very Socialist.


20 posted on 05/06/2012 6:41:46 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: chris37
I must agree with you, we are witnesses to the end of the age. Time is short.

I hate to resort to cliches, but here goes.

Repent, the end is near.

21 posted on 05/06/2012 6:51:17 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: rfreedom4u

First thing that came to my mind!

Seriously.

:)


22 posted on 05/06/2012 6:58:02 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Kaslin

Too late. We already are one and it’s only going to get worse whether Maobama or the happy Mormon liberal does.


23 posted on 05/06/2012 6:58:02 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Son House

I see France folding up in a year—look to see a rise in Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism —they will borrow from Arabs to fund the People’s utopia. Until they treasury runs dry. Things will get worse after that riots and problems.


24 posted on 05/06/2012 7:14:48 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: chris37

Here I stand. So help me God.


25 posted on 05/06/2012 7:16:45 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: chris37

Here I stand. So help me God.


26 posted on 05/06/2012 7:17:14 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t know. When France can’t pay their bills and strikes and riots paralyze the country it will make a good backdrop of why Obama must go.


27 posted on 05/06/2012 7:52:44 PM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: Kaslin

“The French government—like other European governments—sought to close its budget gap primarily by raising taxes, not by cutting the size and cost of government.”

CORRECT.

But ther is something simpler: France’s economy is in the dumps and the people dump the incumbent when that happens.

THIS RESULT MEANS OBAMA IS IN BIG HEAP TROUBLE.
The US voters will do what voters in other countries have done - dump the incumbents.


28 posted on 05/06/2012 7:55:44 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: JDoutrider

mark


29 posted on 05/06/2012 8:33:11 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Impeach! Incarcerate! Deport!)
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To: JohnBrowdie
the frech are actually late to the party. we have already had our episode of national delusion in which we elected a socialist. we will be de-electing him in six months.

Don't start celebrating just yet - maybe in 2017, but right now we are looking at replacing one anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage socialist with another anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage socialist and it's going to be a rough four and a half years.
30 posted on 05/06/2012 11:11:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: JohnBrowdie

“we will be de-electing him in six months.”

So how does this help the US?

His replacement is going to be another liberal socialist from the one republicrat oligarchy party ruling America.

That party could be another acronym for ROP.

The religion of peace (ROP) is hell bent on destroying America, and the republicrat oligarchy party (ROP)is helping with their fascist methodology that is forcing big government rule on America that the people do not want.


31 posted on 05/06/2012 11:24:40 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Kaslin
Re: “Sarkozy lost because.....he lacked the courage to make the harsh but necessary reforms to set France right.”

Wrong.

Sarkozy lost because France is a democracy.

Sarkozy lost because the moderate Socialists were outvoted by the hard line Socialists.

America will have the same election in 6 months.

And, quite possibly, the same outcome.

32 posted on 05/06/2012 11:35:32 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

“Sarkozy lost because the moderate Socialists were outvoted by the hard line Socialists.”

A socialist is a patient communist.

A moderate socialist has more patience than a hard line socialist.

They all get you there, sooner or later.


33 posted on 05/06/2012 11:46:34 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Kaslin

guns gold and grub


34 posted on 05/06/2012 11:54:51 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: MikeSteelBe

.....Which could end up with a second American revolution.


35 posted on 05/07/2012 3:30:08 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: chris37

“It is time for us to lead with the strength of Jesus Christ. It is time for us to lead or die.”

Actually it’s time to lead with the strength of constitutionally conservative ideals like limited government, and fiscally sound policies.

However, folks are not yet ready to vote for this in a majority. They will be soon enough though.

Jesus Christ lets us wallow in our own politics, as we well deserve.


36 posted on 05/07/2012 4:04:39 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: af_vet_rr
I keep telling them that Romney in office would be worse than an impeached Obama. Romney will walk Souter-type SCOTUS nominees through to replace Scalia and Thomas. Then we'll find out later that Romney's nominees are all Loggies and GOProud and PFLAG members.

If you could somehow get both Obama and Biden out of there by the impeachment route (did you say, "Fast & Furious"?), then the House could unseat Boehner as Speaker just in time to confirm someone like, say, ACU 100%'er Darrel Issa as Speaker, and next in line to the Presidency. Then replace Issa with, oh, say, Peter King or Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

Just my thinking out loud.

37 posted on 05/07/2012 5:36:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RFEngineer

No, I’m sorry, the constitution of america comes after Jesus Christ.

God is being driven out of America, and it is apparent. Without God, there really is no moral compass, and without morality, there is only the horde. Man cannot govern himself without morality. That is key, RFEngineer.

When I know what is right and what is wrong and that My Lord expects me to do what is right, then I don’t need some person in Washington or anywhere else telling me anything at all.

What is missing in America is Jesus Christ, and that is the root of all of our woes.


38 posted on 05/07/2012 8:52:39 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

“No, I’m sorry, the constitution of america comes after Jesus Christ.”

For you personally, I am sure that is true.

As Americans, our freedoms are God-given and codified under the divinely-inspired Constitution.

Jesus Christ takes no position on US politics, as far as I am aware, if He did, it wouldn’t look good for Democrats or Republicans.

Vote how you feel inspired, but don’t claim Christs blessing for political ends. That never ends well for anyone.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 9:15:38 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

I’m not.

What I’m saying is that we now live in an amoral country, and the reason for that is because Christ has been systematically removed from our country.

Without a moral compass, people cannot even determine in which direction the constitution is located.

In other words, we are lost, and that is plain to see.


40 posted on 05/07/2012 9:27:46 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

I’m not as pessimistic as you.

I don’t think we are any more or less moral than we’ve ever been.

The point that we’ve got official government positions that are generally hostile to Christianity is a good one though - but that is a symptom of big government as much as it is anti-Christianity....in my opinion.

Successfully kill big gov’t, and Christianity and it’s characteristic charity will grow and thrive.

In other words, stick (or return) to Constitutional principles and Faith will fill the void that was never really filled by big gov’t.


41 posted on 05/07/2012 9:45:40 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Biggirl

“Which could end up with a second American revolution.”

Well, another phoney, fradulent “election” will fix nothing in this country.

If enough people can wake up and realized we are bieng ruled by one republicrat oligarchy party with two faces, then things might change.

If we end up in another civil war, then the side fighting for states rights will be the right side this time around.


42 posted on 05/07/2012 9:50:44 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: RFEngineer

You have a good point.

What worries me though is that the left, as a result of taking control of the institutions of education, media, and entertainment, are manufacturing horde members at an extremely alarming rate.

Those of us raised in a better time will simply die of old age and other natural causes, and our void will be filled with their drones.

We may well be on the other side of that curve already. I suspect that we have at least two, but possibly three generations of Americans that are lost, their heads have been filled with poison.


43 posted on 05/07/2012 9:52:55 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kaslin

It simply means that France is driving just a little bit faster towards the edge of the cliff.


44 posted on 05/07/2012 10:03:30 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: chris37
What I’m saying is that we now live in an amoral country, and the reason for that is because Christ has been systematically removed from our country.

Says a lot about the country if Romney gets the nomination. That will mean the Democrats and Republicans will both be running candidates with a track record of supporting abortion and homosexual "marriage".

I went with a friend to a smaller church in our area yesterday, and afterward as we were all eating, the topic of Romney came up, and many said they were not going to support him no matter what. I was very pleased that so many pro-lifers are willing to stick to their guns on this issue and saw right through his "pro-life conversion" that just so happened to coincide with his decision to look at running for President. Quite a few had religious problems with Romney over his being a Mormon, but his support of abortion was what lost him that crowd.

Some good may come out of a Romney nomination. Not much, but some - it's making people re-examine whether they are truly pro-life or just say they are. The GOP maybe able to nominate a pro-abortion candidate this time around, but they'll lose with Romney, and I think they will have to rethink supporting a pro-abortion candidate in 2016.

They pushed us pretty far with McCain, and coming back with somebody even more liberal than McCain is going just too far.
45 posted on 05/07/2012 12:57:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Kaslin

It means we are so screwed.....


46 posted on 05/07/2012 1:16:04 PM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: af_vet_rr

I agree that Romney is an awful candidate.

The problem is that none of the conservative candidates could even come remotely close to defeating him, which shows how poor they were, and it shows just how shallow the pool of talent is for the GOP.

The GOP has zero leadership, and much as I hate to say this, American consrvatives have even less.

We got serious problems on our side.


47 posted on 05/07/2012 1:16:32 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kaslin

America is following the weakest link to the drain. France, You Suck, and you KNOW IT!


48 posted on 05/07/2012 1:18:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Kaslin

Almost sounds like the conversation Mrs. USC and I had yesterday on this topic. Couldn’t agree more with the analysis in the article.


49 posted on 05/07/2012 1:19:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: chris37
I agree that Romney is an awful candidate.

The problem is that none of the conservative candidates could even come remotely close to defeating him, which shows how poor they were, and it shows just how shallow the pool of talent is for the GOP.

The GOP has zero leadership, and much as I hate to say this, American consrvatives have even less.

We got serious problems on our side.


As long as we as individuals stick to our morals, and don't support the RINOs the GOP tries to shove down our throats, the problem is not with us.

I would go so far as to say the GOP is not "our side" at this point, not if they are willing to nominate a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, pro-socialism candidate by the name of Romney.

The fact that Romney should be running as a Democrat since he's got a better liberal record than many Democrats sums up the problem nicely - we don't have two major parties, we have one major party and the members get to pick one of two labels.
50 posted on 05/08/2012 12:52:51 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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