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What Motivates the Left, Love for the Poor or Hatred against the Rich?
Townhall.com ^ | May 7, 2012 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 05/07/2012 4:17:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

I shared an amazing video last year featuring Margaret Thatcher exposing the left for wanting to keep the poor destitute if that was the price of hurting the so-called rich.

Deroy Murdock makes similar points in a great column for National Review.

For too many liberals like Obama, “fairness” is not about enriching the modest; it’s about impoverishing the moneyed. Multibillionaire Warren Buffett has energized liberals with his still-unverified claim that his tax rate lags his secretary’s. …Somehow, reducing the secretary’s taxes never came up. Instead liberals demand the so-called Buffett Rule, an instrument for bludgeoning the successful rather than boosting the downtrodden. …Here’s how the Right should challenge the Left: “If you dislike income inequality, lift those with the least. Let’s adopt universal school choice, allow personal Social Security retirement accounts (to democratize long-term capital accumulation), radically reduce or eliminate America’s anti-competitive 35 percent corporate tax (to supercharge businesses), and pass right-to-work laws (so the jobless won’t fester outside closed shops). Let’s build the Keystone Pipeline (to create 20,000 blue-collar positions right now and lower everyone’s energy costs), frack for natural gas, and tame the EPA, OSHA, SEC, and other power-mad bureaucracies, so U.S. companies will stay here, and foreign firms will move in.”

Needless to say, the left will not accept Deroy’s challenge.

Too many of them care about enriching teacher unions, for instance, more than they care about educational opportunity for poor children.

And most leftist leaders would like to impose higher tax rates on success, even if the government collects less revenue.

Media Bias about Greece, or Media Stupidity?

Today’s a big day in European politics. French voters are going to the polls to decide the fate of Nicolas Sarkozy, the socialist incumbent. I’ve endorsed Francois Hollande, the Socialist challenger, so I’m curious to see what will happen.

The more important contest, though, is in Greece. Voters are electing a new Parliament, and it will be interesting to see whether the two establishment parties (both of which are statist, of course) hold on to power.

The looters and moochers that comprise the Greek electorate are in a pissy mood and may opt for various protest parties.

That’s not too surprising, but the press coverage of the election is a bit surreal.

An article in the EU Observer is entitled “Greek elections to usher in anti-bail-out parties,” and the opening paragraph echoes this title, implying that Greek voters don’t like bailouts.

Greece’s two main parties are set for heavy losses in Sunday’s (6 May) elections, with anti-bail-out groups on the extreme left and right to enter parliament for the first time, raising again the prospect of an exit from the eurozone.

There’s just one tiny problem with the both the title of the first paragraph. Contrary to what’s written, the new political parties are pro-bailout. They are quite happy to mooch off German taxpayers, American taxpayers, and anyone else who is stupid enough to send money (after all, somebody has to finance critical functions of government, such as collecting stool samples from people who want to set up online companies and subsidizing pedophiles).

What gets them upset is the notion that they should do anything in exchange for these handouts. Perish the thought!

If the media had any brains (I don’t think this is a case of ideological bias), they would change the title from “Greek elections to usher in anti-bail-out parties” to “Greek elections to usher in anti-conditionality parties.” Or something like that.

I actually hope these anti-conditionality parties prevail. Because if they get power and say that they won’t do anything to fix Greece’s budget, maybe the fiscal pyromaniacs at the International Monetary Fund and elsewhere will finally stop the bailouts.

Which is what I said was the right approach way back when the crisis began. So maybe after every other option is exhausted, the right thing will finally happen. Hope springs eternal.


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1 posted on 05/07/2012 4:17:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Neither

Bloodthirsty power.

Kill babies, people and thought

2 posted on 05/07/2012 4:23:15 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

To answer your question : Thirst for power and disdain for people in general, to rob the rich and trap the poor in serfdom.


3 posted on 05/07/2012 4:26:06 AM PDT by Marylander (Offendiphobia)
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To: knarf
Exactly.

Nincompoops want people to obey them -- it's their only path to consequentiality. Hence, politics.

Well-off people with no problems won't tolerate nincompoops, but will tell them to bugger off. Hence, the well-to-do must be made less well-to-do, and the struggling must struggle in vain. No not-needing-nincompoops allowed!

4 posted on 05/07/2012 4:26:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
Further example:

Remember South Park's takedown of Al Gore in the "Manbearpig" episode? That pretty much gets it.

5 posted on 05/07/2012 4:28:29 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

Probably self hatred, hatred of all society, certainly hatred of their own country.


6 posted on 05/07/2012 4:47:27 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Kaslin

Hatred of God, others, power hungry.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 4:51:32 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Probably the only episode I ever saw. Certainly the only one I remember. Except the one about the kid eating the gold. But that might have been the same one.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 4:53:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Kaslin
Neither.

What motivates the Left is hatred, envy and jealousness of those who are better than them, lust for power and control over others, the joy of killing others,etal.

9 posted on 05/07/2012 4:56:35 AM PDT by sport
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To: Kaslin

Trying to attribute rational motives to them is fruitless and misleading. Speaking of those who arent merely “liberal”, they hate the truth, plain and simple. Therefore their motives are completely irrational. They are consistent, however, having the characteristic that they oppose all that is true and therefore all that is good.


10 posted on 05/07/2012 4:59:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Kaslin
Most leftist voters are motivated by emotion, ignorance and stupidity.

A lot of the leaders of the left simply believe in very evil ideas, and some have simply become that.

11 posted on 05/07/2012 5:00:39 AM PDT by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Kaslin

What motivates the left? Pure unadulterated ambition


12 posted on 05/07/2012 5:06:36 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

“Love for the poor”?? Then go sell what you have..., join a missionary, the peace corps, whatever makes you “feel” good, but do it with your money, not taxpayers. If only all citizens were 10% givers.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 5:07:25 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Kaslin

Narcissism, envy, and ignorance are the foundational pillars of American liberalism.


14 posted on 05/07/2012 5:28:27 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Kaslin

Those most enamored of communism/socialism are the least productive members of society who want those goodies that accrue to the most productive. Their agenda is detrimental to a productive society resulting in their attempt to hide that agenda by calling themselves progressives or liberals. These communist/socialists who call themselves progressives or liberals now control both parties and those two parties are rapidly bringing this nation to rule by man, loss of all property and enslavement.

Are we going to allow them continued control of the debate and blissfully accept their utopia?


15 posted on 05/07/2012 5:30:26 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: W. W. SMITH

There are those within this nation who cannot abide a wealthy America. They will forever maneuver events so that our wealth is spent buying what we could provide easily from our own resources.
A wealthy and productive nation never chooses poverty and slavery. They do not desire a despotic ruler.
Communism can only be born in the midst of poverty and misery.
This is all part of the plan and the communist/socialist types have been working the plan for a long time. Communism can not be implemented unless the citizens are hurting bad, abject misery, therefore we must be impoverished, unemployed and with no way out.

Taxes on business and industry were implemented and then raised causing them to leave this nation with our wealth and jobs. Restrictions were placed on extracting our natural resources and more taxes were implemented and again raised. the result was spending our wealth buying oil and metals from others. This is leading us down the garden path to accepting their utopia.

When we quit taxing business and industry, the corporations will move back because “WE” are the most productive workers in the world. When we extract our own oil and metals, we retain our wealth instead of sending it overseas. When we do these things we will be on the road to recovery. When we do these things the communists/socialists will fight us tooth and nail and remember, to them lie, cheat, steal and murder are OK as long as it furthers their agenda.

And now you know the rest of the story!


16 posted on 05/07/2012 5:31:33 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: W. W. SMITH

I Want to See the communist/socialist agenda Crushed. I want to see their political philosophy dead and discredited. I want to see those enamored of it eradicated from the media, from politics, from academic positions, from any position of power. I want to see the adherents of that dead and discredited idea in charge of nothing beyond a gandy stick and acknowledged for what they are.

As mentaly challenged residents of small communities.


17 posted on 05/07/2012 5:32:43 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Kaslin

If they cared about the poor they would donate more than 1% of their income to charity.

Being a Leftist means caring without doing.


18 posted on 05/07/2012 5:36:04 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin

Everyone here is referring to “the left” as a monolithic whole in which every one of them is the power hungry control freaks that seek the power to control and oppress every other human on the planet.

What you need to understand, though, is that there are the “sheeperals” that sit out here and empower and defend the leadership/control freaks for a completely different reason.

The sheeperals, being leftists as well, reject the truth of God. (Rom 1:25 “For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.”)
In doing so, they HAVE NO REASON TO MATTER in this “accidental” existance. Hand in hand with this is the visceral understanding of sinfulness coupled with the “intellectual” rejection thereof. They want to believe in the lie that “I’m a good person”, and spend their lives trying to justify that lie.

Supporting people who SAY their motivation is “helping the poor” gives the sheeperals a reason to matter. It’s the same reason they latch onto the Global Warming religion - a reason to matter and a justification of “I’m a good person”.


19 posted on 05/07/2012 5:39:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

This is the reason they support redistributionist policies -
“I’m a good person for helping the poor [without any personal sacrifice whatsoever]”


20 posted on 05/07/2012 5:42:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
Socialism is best thought of as a conspiracy to enslave the productive middle class, using the envy for the lower classes, and for the benefit of the upper classes.

Think about how many members of the radical Left are children of wealth, like Ayers and his wife.

The real objective of the radical left is to make it impossible for a smart, energetic person of modest means to become wealthy, and possibly displace some of the old elite via competition.

21 posted on 05/07/2012 5:47:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

Neither. That want the whole world dependent upon them. For instance oil companies. They don’t hate oil-in fact most libs have a bigger “carbon footprint” than anyone else.

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/gores_carbon_fo.html

what they hate are “oil companies” whom everyone else is dependent upon...which makes it hard for the libs to control.

Basically Liberalism is the collective manifestation of all the worst of the individual crazy control freaks you’ve ever met in your life.


22 posted on 05/07/2012 5:52:10 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: mo

“they want” ....


23 posted on 05/07/2012 5:52:48 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I know you know your bible, but review this set of verses in light of what motivates the left:

2 Tim 3
1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

"having the form of godliness but denying its power" - liberalism as a religion. Desiring the "feel good" of godliness, but denying His authority over their lives.

"the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women" - Modern feminism. You don't need a family, especially a "man". You can have all the protection and provision from the government without any of the obligations of being a wife to a man.

24 posted on 05/07/2012 6:01:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Excellent. Truth always divides.

-—7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds-—

So true of countless modern intellectuals, from Marx through Keynes and Kinsey.

For anyone interested, see “Degenerate Moderns,” or “Intellectuals.”


25 posted on 05/07/2012 6:08:33 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kaslin

If they were honest, the Dems would admit their constituency is made up of a lot of whiners and people who feel life hasn’t been fair to them. They should be millionaires and not the people who actually are millionaires through dint of hard work. Human nature. many people are just jealous of what other people have. Which is why there will always be a Dem party. Or the Thief Party as I call it now. Here in Wisconsin the Dems (especially teachers union members) are boiling mad that Scott Walker made them contribute to their retirement and health fund. And they’re really mad that Walker’s reforms worked. So they’ve got a bunch of candidates who are lying about what Walker did, and are promising to steal the money back for the teachers. Which would plunge the state back into billions of dollars of debt. These people are shameless.


26 posted on 05/07/2012 6:18:05 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Kaslin

A lot of rich socialists out there. They love socialism because it locks out their competition.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 6:23:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Kaslin

Hatred, of course.

I have systematically purged every liberal acquaintence from my life. Not only are they actively trying to destroy my country, they are the angriest, most spiteful and jealous people I know.


28 posted on 05/07/2012 6:27:30 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip
Hatred, of course.

Hate is an unavoidable byproduct of envy, which is an unavoidable byproduct of vanity. Vanity/pride is the root cause of all sin. Humility is a virtue, vanity is a vice. To fight evil and leftist thought we need more humility. But humility is very hard to achieve when even the left side of the bell curve has no awe of God. Instead of saying grace before dinner they now check their EBT balance on their free smart phone, while their big screen cable TV blares in the background and the kids have their iPods plugged into their ears checking Twitter and Facebook messages on their iPads.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 6:48:06 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: knarf
I have replied to several posts before with this Ayn Rand statement I read this years ago after pondering the same question this article asks. I still belive it is the best explanation.

Superficially, the motive of those who hate the good is taken to be envy. A dictionary definition of envy is: "1. a sense of discontent or jealousy with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc. 2. desire for an advantaged position possessed by another." (The Random House Dictionary, 1968.) The same dictionary adds the following elucidation: "To envy is to feel resentful because someone else possesses or has achieved what one wishes oneself to possess or to have achieved."

This covers a great many emotional responses, which come from different motives. In a certain sense, the second definition is the opposite of the first, and the more innocent of the two.

For example, if a poor man experiences a moment's envy of another man's wealth, the feeling may mean nothing more than a momentary concretization of his desire for wealth; the feeling is not directed against that particular rich person and is concerned with the wealth, not the person. The feeling, in effect, may amount to: "I wish I had an income or a house, or a car, or an overcoat) like his." The result of this feeling may be an added incentive for the man to improve his financial condition.

The feeling is less innocent, if it amounts to: "I want this man's car (or overcoat, or diamond shirt studs, or industrial establishment)." The result is a criminal.

But these are still human beings, in various stages of immorality, compared to the inhuman object whose feeling is: "I hate this man because he is wealthy and I am not."

Envy is part of this creature's feeling, but only the superficial, semirespectable part; it is the tip of an iceberg showing nothing worse than ice, but with the submerged part consisting of a compost of rotting living matter. The envy, in this case, is semirespectable because it seems to imply a desire for material possessions, which is a human being's desire. But, deep down, the creature has no such desire: it does not want to be rich, it wants the human being to be poor.

This is particularly clear in the much more virulent cases of hatred, masked as envy, for those who possess personal values or virtues: hatred of a man (or a woman) because he (or she) is beautiful or intelligent or successful or honest or happy. In these cases, the creature has no desire and makes no effort to improve its appearance, to develop or to use its intelligence, to struggle for success, to practice honesty, to be happy (nothing can make it happy). It knows that the disfigurement or the mental collapse or the failure or the immorality or the misery of its victim would not endow it with his or her value. It does not desire the value: it desires the value's destruction.

30 posted on 05/07/2012 7:07:20 AM PDT by johnny reb (I Have Not Yet Begun To Tea Party!)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong choices given.

The absolute convictions that
(1) they are smarter, superior than you and me; therefore they ought to be in charge of everything;
and (2) all others are just ‘tools’ to be used as they see fit, all for the greater good, of course.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 7:37:06 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: knarf

Yep. Bloodthirsty power is the correct answer.


32 posted on 05/07/2012 7:37:21 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: Kaslin
The Left is motivated by the lust to be slavemasters over everyone they perceive as “thinking they're better than me.”

Of course, they don't understand that the number of slavemasters would be very few and that, even though they voted to enslave “them,” they would also be under the lash.

33 posted on 05/07/2012 8:08:27 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: snowrip; Kaslin

The leftists hate the poor, too. They want to keep poor people poor and ignorant. If they loved poor people they’d want them to become responsible and diligent members of society.

Leftists hate everyone and everything. It is said that lust, greed and anger are the three gates leading to hell. Lust, greed and anger are the very guiding lights of leftists.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 10:09:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Of course they do?


35 posted on 05/07/2012 10:34:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

The left hates themselves. Their hate simply carries over to everyone else.


36 posted on 05/07/2012 10:37:10 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sport

The 10 Commandments was written for a purpose. Those human vices for which it was written are the same vices that the Left exploits for their pursuit of power and control.


37 posted on 05/07/2012 11:56:59 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46
The 10 Commandments was written for a purpose. Those human vices for which it was written are the same vices that the Left exploits for their pursuit of power and control.

The Left always appeals to all that is base in the human character. The reason is not hard to fathom.

While there are a few demagogues who simply exploit the base tendencies, most of those on the Left are compulsion driven. Hating the reality that we are all different--and hence each responsible for our own performance--they seek fantasy driven wish lists, that deny reality--and they do so with a fervor that says much about the neurotic compulsions that substitute for human reason.

For example, see Compulsion For Uniformity; or The Greatest Mischief Ever Wrought.

William Flax

38 posted on 05/07/2012 12:26:48 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Bravo! You contribution to the subject is most appreciated!

I often refer to the Left as living in the fantasy world of the Unicorn Farm. It is the fantasy of Utopia, devoid of reality that keeps them in bondage on the farm I call the Unicorn Farm. The Unicorn Farm is a slave plantation. They are slaves to their own human vices that the Left exploits.


39 posted on 05/07/2012 2:05:48 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Kaslin
For too many liberals like Obama, “fairness” is not about enriching the modest; it’s about impoverishing the moneyed.

That's more of a pose. People who talk that way usually don't want their own income or privileges to decrease. It's just the comforting things they like to tell themselves.

Maybe somebody else, somewhere will have to pay more taxes. They won't. I'm not sure where that leaves us.

40 posted on 05/07/2012 5:04:04 PM PDT by x
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To: jonrick46
Yes. I realized, when still in my teens, that what was being offered in the name of reform of progress, from the Left, was always cloud-borne--never, ever based upon a logical structure that started with the actual realities of human interaction. Once one really grasps that fact--and it is a fact--there is never any problem in dismantling their pretensions.

Unfortunately, those in the Academic/Media complex are now so devoid from understanding the very concept that there is such a thing as "reality," that they sail merrily along, parroting their wish lists, without worrying about the fact that they have no logical argument to support them.

I guess that you would say that they are enjoying "farm life."

Cheers!

William Flax

41 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:45 AM PDT by Ohioan
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