Skip to comments.10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Denver rules: No Gun Rights for Illegals
Posted on 05/08/2012 10:37:18 AM PDT by SandRat
A conicted illegal's lawyer claimed that the prior conviction should be overturned because of the 2nd Ammendment,
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WOW, they got that right!
The constitution is for legal and Natural born citizens. Not for those who come here illegally and break our laws.
The “Conicted illegal” should have been shipped back to his country of origin after a severe flogging and some water boarding.
Weird. they got it right.
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Let Freedom Ring,
So now, you will have to show your citizenship papers to have a firearm?
If your papers are not in order, they will siege your weapon and deny you of your Second Amendment Rights.
“Shall not be infringed.” There are no qualifications as to who might infringe or who might be infringed against. I am with the illegal on this one.
Gun possession should not be criminal at all, even for felons. The inappropriate use of a gun is the proper subject of law. The illegal’s illegal entry and/or persistence in illegal residency is certainly a crime and should be legally addressed. If the gun were stolen it would then be “stolen property” and should be prosecuted.
The Constitution does not make that distinction except for qualification to hold the office of Presidency. You are also claiming that naturalized citizens, not being Natural Born should not have Constitutional Rights.
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Illegals should have two rights. Either the right to spend the rest of their lives behind bars (still cheaper than them on the streets today) or the right to be shipped back where they came from.
Doesn’t the naturalized citizen fall under the term “legal”?
I stated that legal citizens are covered by the constitution.
Do you think that illegals have a constitutional right to keep and bare arms?
By the very act of crossing our borders illegally they are in fact felons and according to the laws felons are banned from owning or possessing guns.
Do you think that criminals should be allowed to own and carry guns?
I wondered about this
The 10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Denver ruled Monday that illegal immigrants have only limited protection under the Constitution.
So. By who or how is it decided which Constitutional rights illegal aliens do or do not enjoy?
Well said, it is a God giving right to all.
Forgot the second part of the message as long as they are here legally. If not they have only the right to be shot, for invading our country.
The default conservative interpretation of the Bill of Rights is that they are natural rights and that the purpose of those amendments are to specifically prohibit the government from usurping them. In that light, anyone — resident or not — should be allowed to be bear arms in the United States.
The problem isn’t that an illegal immigrant should or shouldn’t be allowed to bear arms, it’s that there’s a known illegal immigrant who isn’t being transported to the nearest border in the first place.
>The constitution is for legal and Natural born citizens. Not for those who come here illegally and break our laws.
Not quite; the Constitution is for the formation of the federal government, and the Bill of Rights to further clarify the restraints of the federal government.
Directly from the preamble to the Bill of Rights:
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
The problem that I see arising from a stance of “the Bill of Rights only applies to Citizens”, is that the government could conceivably unilaterally declare people’s citizenship void and then act on that.
However, a conviction on the person’s presence (being an illegal alien) is another matter entirely.
No gun rights for illegals!
Legal aliens are allowed to buy, own and carry guns so I don't think the issue is citizenship. Criminal behavior comes with sanctions.
Has Obama sued the 10th Circuit yet?
Nope, not yet, but you know it’s coming.
Now if that same kind of reasoning can be applied to welfare “entitlements” we’d be on our way to sanity.
Criminals should be in jail. As far as uncaught practicing criminals are concerned how are you going to convince them that they should not carry or own a piece? It’s against the law? how silly. Freed felons the same. What is the point? If they are now law-abiding people then there is no reason to prevent. If they are not no law will prevent them. Murder is a crime. the murder can be arrested and convicted for that crime. If he also possessed a gun what of it? No law is going to keep him from possessing a gun. Nor does a law against possession make the murder any less murdery.