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Obama bailed out of North Carolina visit as traditional-marriage amendment goes to voters
Hotair ^ | 05/08/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/08/2012 11:55:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is the new sensitivity on the gay-marriage issue at Team Obama really all that new? Last week, the White House scheduled a visit to North Carolina today to talk about the economy, which would have been interesting enough in a state with a jobless rate above the national average. With traditional-marriage Amendment One appearing to be headed for victory, the White House changed direction two hours later and said the President was unavailable to speak in the Tarheel State, a fact reported today in North Carolina:

President Barack Obama was scheduled, albeit briefly, to visit North Carolina on Election Day to make an speech in Asheville about the economy.

But the White House sent the notice Wednesday last week but reversed course about five hours later, saying the trip wasn't taking place, according to a North Carolina congressional office notified about the trip. The false alarm isn't unprecedented — but the fact the White House even considered visiting the state on primary election day is interesting.

A controversial vote on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and civil unions is on today’s ballot. Obama issued a statement against the amendment earlier this year — but polls show it is likely to win by a solid margin.

That decision preceded Joe Biden’s comments on Sunday, which makes it appear that Biden may really have gone off the reservation. Had Obama spoken today, there is little doubt he would have had to address Amendment One at some point. How could Obama have responded? Arguing that he’s still “evolving” while publicly opposing the amendment would have produced some awkward and incoherent moments. So much for leadership.

It’s a shame we missed that, but North Carolina’s embattled governor gave us a demonstration of what it would have looked like today. Governor Bev Perdue backed the current statutory language banning gay marriage, but opposes the amendment to the state constitution that would put the issue out of the reach of activist judges. Suddenly, Perdue thinks that this issue doesn’t belong on ballots and needs a “national conversation,” which prompts Chuck Todd to ask her how Perdue can possibly square this circle:

It’s a headscratcher, all right, especially the claim that this amendment has nothing to do with gay marriage. Here’s the text of the amendment:

“Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State.

This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts.”

So domestic partnerships would still be legal, as they are now in North Carolina. The amendment only changes the status of the legal definition of marriage from statute to constitutional amendment while protecting private contracts such as domestic partnerships. In other words, it’s only about same-sex marriage, not about taking rights away from anyone, as the Salisbury Post tacitly notes in their analysis:

What will happen if the amendment fails?

Same-sex marriage will remain illegal under a 1996 North Carolina law. Civil unions still will not be offered to either same-sex or opposite-sex couples, but the state could pass a law to allow them.

There will be no constitutional ban on either gay marriage or civil unions, meaning a state court could one day strike down existing law as unconstitutional.

What will happen if the amendment passes?

It will be added to the state Constitution, meaning a three-fifths majority of state legislators would have to agree to repeal it.

The amendment would prohibit both same-sex marriage and civil unions, or legal unions with equivalent rights to marriage.

Just as in Minnesota this fall, the amendment gives voters in North Carolina a chance to keep judges from redefining marriage from the bench. That’s it. And if Perdue and Obama agree that the legal definition of marriage should be one-man-one-woman and that any other definition should be reached through means of representative democracy rather than declaration by judicial fiat, they should have no problem with Amendment One. Perdue — and Obama — want to have it both ways, and as Chuck Todd implies, that’s nothing less than sheer incoherence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2012; gaymarriage; homosexuality; nobama2012; northcarolina; obama; obamatruthfile

1 posted on 05/08/2012 11:55:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

His opinion on ss marriage is still evolving, don’t cha’ know. That’s why he bailed.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 12:02:16 PM PDT by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: SeekAndFind; Impy; SunkenCiv; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; NFHale

Republicans should rub it into gays that their evolving leader Obama jumped ship and left them alone on the battle-field in NC, a little taste of demoralization never hurts,.

It’s all about LOVE.


3 posted on 05/08/2012 12:04:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: duckman

RE: His opinion on ss marriage is still evolving

His mind is MOST DEFINITELY MADE UP and HE IS FOR GAY MARRIAGE.

He just does not want to make it public at this time.

Give him a second term and you’ll see how right I am.


4 posted on 05/08/2012 12:10:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Brave Sir Barack ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Barack turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Barack!


5 posted on 05/08/2012 12:19:52 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama bailed out of North Carolina visit as traditional-marriage amendment goes to voters

Gutless crap weasel, thy name is Obama...

6 posted on 05/08/2012 12:29:30 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The painful fact is that NO gay marriage statute has EVER been voted in.

Every one has lost if left to the PEOPLE to choose. It's why gay marriage has to be legislated from the Bench.

7 posted on 05/08/2012 1:07:11 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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8 posted on 05/08/2012 2:17:12 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: SeekAndFind

"You're going to be on your knees on every issue, so get used to it, NC!"

Øbowwow at a diner in Cape fear, NC during the 2008 campaign.

9 posted on 05/08/2012 3:06:41 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Funny, he couldn’t do what he did as Senator and be (vote) present.


10 posted on 05/08/2012 7:35:46 PM PDT by Go Gordon (President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
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To: sickoflibs

Oh, I am sure that most Gays know that Obama is waiting until a second term to safely announce his support of SS marriage and they are being patient. They will not abandon him because without him they know there is no chance for this to become a national law.


11 posted on 05/08/2012 7:39:54 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama studied our Constution because he hates it, not because he loves our country or laws.)
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To: CitizenM; justiceseeker93; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; SunkenCiv; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”Oh, I am sure that most Gays know that Obama is waiting until a second term to safely announce his support of SS marriage and they are being patient. They will not abandon him because without him they know there is no chance for this to become a national law

Mark Levin made a very good point on this today I liked.
Obama says he is for LGBT (”lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender” ) RIGHTS and so Levin asks: Exactly what special ‘rights’ do bisexuals have?

Lets expand this . Do bisexuals have the right to marry both sexes at the same time because they were born with that orientation? This really is a great approach to take when rebutting the ‘civil rights’ arguments from libs.

On a pessimistic side, Obama got a break that the NC marriage referendum was during the primary and not the general election in November. It's a shame we have NO national party that can argue this issue on our side,

12 posted on 05/08/2012 8:37:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even better, these fools are now stuck with Charlotte for their Rat convention!


13 posted on 05/08/2012 9:08:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dumb Dems decided to hold their convention in NC thinking that would help them carry the state this Fall. I think they are going to realize real soon that they are wasting their time there. Watch for Obama Ad buys to disappear in NC this Fall.


14 posted on 05/09/2012 2:49:10 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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