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Mr. X: Fraud suspect won't reveal his real name (Fake Navy Veterans charity-tens of millions gone)
news.yahoo ^ | 08May2012 | MATTHEW MOSK

Posted on 05/09/2012 5:52:42 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

The man accused of setting up a fake Navy Veterans charity and siphoning away tens of millions of dollars pleaded not guilty in an Ohio courtroom Tuesday, but still has refused to identify himself.

"If he wants to go by the name 'Mr. X,' we'll prosecute him as 'Mr. X,' " said prosecutor Brad L. Tammaro, chief legal counsel for the Ohio Attorney General.

The judge addressed the defendant as Bobby Thompson, an identity that he allegedly stole from a Washington state man. "Thompson" appeared in the courtroom in an orange jump suit, shackles, handcuffs, and a pair of black Crocs. Through his court-appointed lawyer, Mark Stanton, he pleaded not guilty and revealed that he wishes to serve as his own attorney.

He uttered only three words at the very end of his arraignment, when the judge asked him to affirm that he wishes to represent himself. "Yes, your honor," was his quiet reply. < snip >

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: charity; fraud; navyveteranscharity; veterans

1 posted on 05/09/2012 5:52:50 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...

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2 posted on 05/09/2012 5:53:55 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states, or is it 58, must stand together and defeat O-bozo! VOTE the usurper out!!")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
tens of millions of dollars

Sounds like Bobby Thompson hit another home run.

3 posted on 05/09/2012 6:00:07 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Don't let Julia fool ya. Socialism doesn't work.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

What does it matter? Who he was, is meaningless. He is a case number, now. Playing silly games with names is not going to put him on the street.


4 posted on 05/09/2012 6:23:48 AM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Why not post a picture of him in newspapers and on the Internet? Someone knows him.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 6:26:18 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: jonascord

So, if I commit a Felony - does everyone have the right to commit crimes against the public, yet remain anonymous? I didn’t find that “right” anywhere in the Constitution. Part of the penalty of being charged with a crime, is the public being aware that “Johnny” is suspected of doing something.

It seems this man felt entitled to defraud the public out of millions, and now is entitled to remain anonymous too. I don’t think he is entitled to any more, or less, anonomity than any other person.


7 posted on 05/09/2012 7:03:18 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

This link shows the pictures of the scum bag.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/feds-found-alleged-navy-vets-scammers-1m-stash/story?id=16266956


8 posted on 05/09/2012 7:06:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Bobby Thompson aka Mr. X will represent himself in his trial

9 posted on 05/09/2012 7:06:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Assuming they’ve fingerprinted him their inability to identify him at least means he’s never been in the Armed Forces.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 7:14:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: kcvl

Check out dem eyebrows!


11 posted on 05/09/2012 7:34:21 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jonascord

Accurate identity(ies) may prove useful to recover some of the missing funds.


12 posted on 05/09/2012 8:20:28 AM PDT by wtd
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To: kcvl

That’s a very punchable face, right there.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 8:22:26 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Well said Love your tagline


14 posted on 05/09/2012 8:28:28 AM PDT by small business owner
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To: Las Vegas Dave

His real name is Remington Steele...


15 posted on 05/09/2012 1:24:14 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Hodar
Up until FDR and his socialist destruction of the Constitution, US citizens had some expectation of privacy. My copy of the Constitution doesn't include any demand that someone be required to be identifiable. He is entitled to various rights during trial, but has no responsibility to be any more than "Mr. X."

His history, his family, anything other than his guilt or innocence has nothing to do with his trial. All these demands for a "name" are nothing more than Socialist controls that you all have bought into, without even realizing it.

16 posted on 05/09/2012 2:11:32 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord

Can you name one trial, in which a person was tried anonymously? Certainly, if your intent is to use the Founding Fathers as an example, you can find a few trials performed prior to this century in which the accused was tried without a name.


17 posted on 05/09/2012 2:15:35 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
So, as I understand it, EVERYONE was positively identified, dating back to the beginning of time, whenever they went to trial, except this one exception.

You're asking me to prove a negative. You've really had your brain dry-cleaned by the control freaks.

Until the advent of fingerprints, it was common procedure to change your name, after you were released from prison. Remember, the whole idea of "positive ID" is only about 120 years old.

Of course, until recently, going to prison was considered payment for a crime, and they were forgiven, having "paid their debt." They weren't branded, more effectivly than Banished Cain, after they were released. Now, society can make sure they can never hold a paying job, till the day they die. That's an improvement, alright.

Somehow, I'm willing to wager that someone went to jail under a name that was not his own before then. Also note that "Mr. X" is not nameless. He just doesn't have a name that can be traced.

18 posted on 05/09/2012 4:26:24 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord
So, as I understand it, EVERYONE was positively identified, dating back to the beginning of time, whenever they went to trial, except this one exception.

Yup, because pretty much as a rule - a person is charged with a crime. When the person is charged, his name is entered. You see, the Police have this "form" and the "form" has an entry that says "Name". With me so far? Now believe it or not, the Courts have forms with this "Name" entry in them too!

You've really had your brain dry-cleaned by the control freaks.

Another personal attack? Do you read the rules on the posts about personal attacks, or do these rules not apply to you? I'm debating a very specific point - and if you have nothing better to add - admit you are intellectually incapable of debating this point and leave the name-calling to the 5th graders.

Of course, until recently, going to prison was considered payment for a crime, and they were forgiven, having "paid their debt." They weren't branded, more effectivly than Banished Cain, after they were released. Now, society can make sure they can never hold a paying job, till the day they die. That's an improvement, alright.

Yup, you see it's kind of a "dis-incentive" to take on a life of crime, and preying upon innocent citizens. As a businessman, I have a lot of "innocent" people all applying for a job. A convicted felon has demonstrated that he has no integrity, that he will prey, steal or abuse any trust that has been placed with him. It makes my life very easy, in that I will immediately reject his application and focus on qualified people who have "somehow" managed not to be predetor, who have not stolen, forged, raped, dealt in illegal activities - and I have a group of people whom I can give the benefit of the doubt. Society may have "forgiven" his crimes, but I doubt the victims have, and I know that "I" haven't. My business, my employees, my family and my customers have an expectation that they will not be placed in danger of theft, or other abuses from the people I opt to bring into my company. This just makes basic sense.

As a private citizen, I do not associate myself with released prisonsers - because I consider myself, my family and my friends "Better" than them. Yes, as in they are "inferior" in every respect to me, my pets and the squirrel in my neighbors tree. You see, my family, my friends, the squirrel and I have not preyed upon someone else and either hurt them, or stolen items from them. We contribute to society, we benefit those we know, we give our families something to take pride in. Pretty simple stuff.

If you don't like it - then I would encourage you not to break the laws. Pretty simple stuff, most of which children learn in Kindergarten. "Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding".

19 posted on 05/10/2012 6:49:29 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
Just for your education, go to Oklahoma, get in an argument with your wife. In the heat of the moment, after 60 years of a blameless life, call her any one of a number of insults.

BANG! You're a convicted felon.

The libs, and dim, self-righteous red-necks, like you, have loaded the dice, recently, with any number of new and interesting ways of becoming "a predator."

Look up what it takes to get a felonious conviction for not having enough money to pay your bills.

Thanks to MADD, and other such psycho organizations, the prisons are bulging. It seems like, if they can't put everyone under the Federal Thumb one way, en mass, they are willing to do it one at a time.

Time was, you had to do a deliberate crime to become a felon. What until some sweet young thing gets an ambitious local DA and lies before a judge about how you hit her. She's got the bruises, and you don't have an alibi.

By the time you finish paying the lawyers, you'll be in a homeless shelter, with a 'felon' label to keep you warm. Then let's discuss your attitudes. And before you say it can't happen, look it up. Ask Phil Hartman about domestic violence... Oh that's right. It's a Long Distance Call.

Look at the Lautenburg Laws to see is required for you to lose your Constitutional rights.

(A good friend got flushed down the tubes, that way, and I couldn't believe it could happen.)

20 posted on 05/10/2012 7:55:23 AM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord
Just for your education, go to Oklahoma, get in an argument with your wife. In the heat of the moment, after 60 years of a blameless life, call her any one of a number of insults. BANG! You're a convicted felon.

Source please.

Thanks to MADD, and other such psycho organizations, the prisons are bulging. It seems like, if they can't put everyone under the Federal Thumb one way, en mass, they are willing to do it one at a time.

MADD is Mothers Against Drunk Driving, now considering that in 2009 drunks killed 10,800+ people; I don't have a problem locking DUI drivers up at all. Want to drink? No problem, get someone else to drive. Pretty simple stuff, really. On your planet, do you really think that you are entitled to get yourself drunk, and endanger everyone else on the road? That we should just make sure we get out of your way? Sorry, champ. It doesn't work that way.

Time was, you had to do a deliberate crime to become a felon. What until some sweet young thing gets an ambitious local DA and lies before a judge about how you hit her. She's got the bruises, and you don't have an alibi.

Wow, and yet, somehow my family, my friends, my co-workers and everyone I know has somehow managed not to get in this set of circumstances. We must really be living right, eh? I mean, what are the odds of us not being in a situation where a bruised and beaten woman calls the cops and falsely accuses us of physically assaulting her?

You have to work hard to get a Felony, and once you earn one, you get the benefit of dealing with it the rest of your life. Most kindergartners can give you some great advice on how to avoid getting a felony. It's quite simple. If your actions sound 'wrong', they probably are.

21 posted on 05/10/2012 8:32:07 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
I'm not going to hold your hand. Google Oklahoma domestic violence, YWCA. If you refuse to accept it, or research it yourself, then, by all means, be surprised and outraged when it happens to you or yours.

Hell, I'll bet you think Chicago cops are honest...

22 posted on 05/10/2012 9:15:46 AM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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To: jonascord
I did exactly what you said.

Source.

Nothing there at all about insulting a woman and being charged with a felony. This just lists resources for victims of Domestic and Sexual Abuse. It just takes a moment. A specific Source please. Where does it indicate that insulting a woman is a Felony?

23 posted on 05/10/2012 9:37:25 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar
I refuse to mention his name, but it was the experience of a good friend of long, and honest, standing. Comes under the heading of "emotional assault". The word he used was the four letter one that starts with 'c," and has a 'u' in it.

It's quite a scam, actually. Several private companies offer "Domestic Violence counseling" for a fee, usually $40 or $50, per week, that is court ordered, for 52 weeks. I'm sure it's only coincidence that the owners of these LLCs seem to have some connection with the State government...
The classes tend to be about 30 some, two per night, 5 days a week. That's about $780,000 per annum, for one "counselor" and the more councelors, the income goes up. He showed me the list. There were, if memory serves, about 20 of these outfits in the OKC metro area, alone. That's, I figure, about 60,000 'felons' in the last ten years. none of them spend more than a few days in jail, so they don't show up in prison populations.

That, to me, is a sh!tload of "domestic violence." And knowing about Oklahoma "laws" and "justice" means there is a framing system that would put the Chicago Art Institute to shame. Remember, this is where a state judge was pounding his pud, behind the bench, during hearings, and some lawyer finally got tired of it and reported it. Is Tulsa different? I don't know, but I'm betting not.

I doubt if you are going to find these details on the Net, or in the papers. The Gelding Feminists think that this is only just, The Gays think nothing bad that happens to 'breeders' is bad enough, and the "journalists" are busy condemning the Baptists for every evil ever committed. They have the same opinion of "felons" that you do.

I'm just glad my ex wasn't aware of this...

24 posted on 05/10/2012 3:53:21 PM PDT by jonascord (Any Democrat = Classic examples of the Downing Effect.)
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