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Kelloggs Defends Hate Speech
Catholic League Online ^ | May 4, 2012 | Catholic League Online

Posted on 05/09/2012 6:44:45 AM PDT by milford421

"Over the past two weeks, we sent our complaint about Jon Stewart’s “vagina manger” stunt of April 16 to the major sponsors of “The Daily Show”; we made sure they received a copy of the picture flashed on the screen of a naked woman with her legs spread with a nativity scene ornament in between. We are pleased with Delta’s response, and are awaiting a reply from others, many of which were contacted only this week. But we were taken aback by this response from Kellogg’s: “We understand that our customers come from a variety of backgrounds, experiences, lifestyles, and cultures and we respect their individual decisions to choose the television programs that they deem acceptable for themselves and their families. Consumers speak most loudly when they vote with their remote control and change the channel or turn off the TV if a program does not fit their personal criteria.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; bigotry; hatespeech
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


51 posted on 05/09/2012 8:43:49 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


52 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:00 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


53 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


54 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


55 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:19 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


56 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:28 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


57 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:28 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


58 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:31 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


59 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:31 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


60 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:45 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Celtic Cross

Euuuw, no jelly - oatmeal is a savory, not a sweet.


61 posted on 05/09/2012 8:44:45 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: milford421

So, Kellogg’s is responsible for Stewart’s blabber? They want to boycott their product simply because they advertise on a highly watched show? That’s like making someone take down their billboard along a road that has a whorehouse on it. There is no difference.


62 posted on 05/09/2012 8:47:28 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: netmilsmom; JLS; All

Apparently, they do advertise with a political slant:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/allamericanmuslim/2011/12/update-politicians-celebrities-activists-join-protest-against-lowes-boycott-of-all-american-muslim/

http://www.mpp.org/media/op-eds/kelloggs-wimps-out-over.html

Offenses against muslim sensibilities and pot smoking are taboo, but drunk driving arrests and attacks on women and Christians are okie dokie.


63 posted on 05/09/2012 8:49:36 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: dfwgator

I'll stick with the breakfast of champions....Little Chocolate Donuts

64 posted on 05/09/2012 8:49:36 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: milford421
Why doesn't some extremely talented (not me obviously) photoshop a Stewart pic showing him in some obscene scenario? Maybe being “loved” by GERMAN SHEPHERD?

Or “servicing” a shetland pony?

That should easily be as funny to him as his hateful little obscenities are to us.

65 posted on 05/09/2012 8:58:08 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: DH

“So, Kellogg’s is responsible for Stewart’s blabber?”

Did I say that? Their choice to continue advertising in light of Stewart’s bigotry speaks volumes. In light of their decisions to pull advertising for other controversial issues, the fact that they choose to remain with Stewart is indicative of the mindset of Kellogg ad execs.

Do you not see that?
The analogy you provided makes no sense at all.


66 posted on 05/09/2012 9:04:23 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421
Why doesn't some extremely talented (not me obviously) photoshop a Stewart pic showing him in some obscene scenario? Maybe being “loved” by GERMAN SHEPHERD?

Or “servicing” a shetland pony?

That should easily be as funny to him as his hateful little obscenities are to us.

67 posted on 05/09/2012 9:04:40 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Huebolt

Nor am I.

These funny guys never see the humor in those situations....


68 posted on 05/09/2012 9:06:23 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Hodar

Thanks H; I’m gonna get a box next time I’m in the supermarket and try ‘em!


69 posted on 05/09/2012 9:21:59 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: milford421

Sorry ... that doesn’t sound like “hate speech” to me.

It was obnoxious. It was sacrilegious. It was tasteless and stupid. It was a solid reason never to watch John Stewart again (who watches him anyway?). But, speaking ill of the Pope, or Mary, or Christ Himself — while blasphemous — is not “hate speech”. Advocating feeding Christians to lions is “hate speech”.

It isn’t hate speech any more than me speaking out against Mohammed, or Mormons, or atheists, or whomever, is “hate speech”. People aren’t required to avoid sacrilege or blasphemy for religions they don’t adopt.

I won’t watch John Stewart. But, generally speaking, I don’t boycott. Kellogg’s didn’t take a shot at Christians. They advertised on a show. Whatever.

SnakeDoc


70 posted on 05/09/2012 9:24:35 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


71 posted on 05/09/2012 9:27:25 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: milford421

Agreed. Kellogg’s is whistling past the grave yard.

Viewers speak loudest when they talk with their wallets, not their remotes. Follow the money.


72 posted on 05/09/2012 9:38:05 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: milford421
Hesh is a classic self-loathing Gen X'r. A bitter secularlist scumbag.

Conservatives took his stupid "Rally" in 2010 and stuffed it right up his pipe.

73 posted on 05/09/2012 9:58:37 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Advocating feeding Christians to lions isn’t hate speech....it’s advocating murder.

People who don’t take offense don’t generally see the difference between actions that are obnoxious and tasteless and those that cross the line into hate.


74 posted on 05/09/2012 11:06:58 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

The problem is rarely with “people who don’t take offense”.

But, there is a major problem in this country with people who think “hate” begins when they’re offended. I find the image offensive. But, just because you’re offended doesn’t make it “hate”.

Christians very often offend gay people ... are we “hateful” for doing so? People are far too offended, far too often. Tyranny of the oversensitive.

Sacrilege isn’t “hate speech”.

SnakeDoc


75 posted on 05/09/2012 11:14:33 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SnakeDoctor

How is it that Christians often offend gay people? By citing religious or moral beliefs? Is that it for you?

Of course the image is offensive. It’s much more than that especially in light of the fact that Stewart repeatedly reserves his most vile and sickening comments for Christians only. Not muslims, not Jews, not gays.

Tyranny of the oversensitive or tyranny of the desensitized?


76 posted on 05/09/2012 11:49:16 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

I’m the wrong guy to ask that question. Ask a gay guy.

“Offensive” is not “hate speech”. It is merely offensive. Stewart was offensive.

I’m quite sure it is tyranny of the oversensitive. The “desensitized” get regularly overrun by the whiners and complainers. There is an entire industry set-up around being oversensitive. Gay activists, feminists, race activists, etc., etc. Why Christians want on board with that kind of activism, I don’t know.

Every statement deemed “offensive” by any group is called “hate speech” and generates a half-assed boycott that never works. They’re trying to drive Limbaugh off the air for “hate speech” toward women.

Its all rooted in the same problem. “Offensive” is not “hate” ... and when “offensive” is deemed “hate”, that’s when you get lynch mobs over mere words. That’s when you get “political correctness”.

SnakeDoc


77 posted on 05/09/2012 12:16:56 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“I’m the wrong guy to ask that question. Ask a gay guy.”

Why did you bring it up then? Was it your goal to disparage Christians?

You don’t even realize you’re part of the problem. You’ve been so desensitized by political correctness that you haven’t a clue what it means to be offended.


78 posted on 05/09/2012 1:25:46 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

>> Why did you bring it up then? Was it your goal to disparage Christians?

Heh. No it wasn’t to “disparage Christians”. I am a Christian, genius. My faith has been singled out as offensive to gay people ... even declared “hate speech” by a few especially offended people.

I brought it up as an example to show that someone being offended doesn’t create “hate speech”. Thought you might be able to relate better if you identified with the accused rather than the accuser. Honestly, I think “hate speech” is a generally stupid concept to begin with.

>> You don’t even realize you’re part of the problem. You’ve been so desensitized by political correctness that you [...]

Part of what problem?

Do you even understand what political correctness is? Political correctness doesn’t desensitize people, it over-sensitizes them. That’s the whole point of political correctness — to have people so scared-to-death of offending someone that they’ll stifle themselves. For example, to have Christians scared to speak for fear of offending the homosexuals, or the Muslims, or the atheists, or whomever.

I won’t join a crusade to require people to bow at the alter of the non-offensive. Today, we silence John Stewart for being offensive. Tomorrow, the gay lobby silences us for the same reason.

>> [...] haven’t a clue what it means to be offended.

Huh? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I know what it means to be offended. Just because I’m offended doesn’t mean the guy who offended me is guilty of “hate speech”.

Nobody has the right to demand not to be offended.

SnakeDoc


79 posted on 05/09/2012 1:42:23 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“Heh. No it wasn’t to “disparage Christians”. I am a Christian, genius.”

Yea well, sure...if you say so. Why the problem defending your faith then?

It is true that someone taking offense does not constitute hate speech. Your problem is you think the rot coming from Stewart isn’t hate speech because he hasn’t called for the Christians to be thrown to the lions.

“I won’t join a crusade to require people to bow at the alter of the non-offensive.

A crusade now, is it? Bow at the altar, (fixed it for you), of the non-offensive?
Get a grip.

“Today, we silence John Stewart for being offensive. Tomorrow, the gay lobby silences us for the same reason.”

Again with the gay thing. Stay on point...we’re talking about Jon Stewart, not the gay lobby. There’s a difference between silencing and accountability.

You will never “get it.”

You probably don’t know when to come in out of the rain either.


80 posted on 05/09/2012 4:00:09 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Coleus

Ping. Didn’t know if you saw this.


81 posted on 05/09/2012 4:10:16 PM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

I’m sorry, I meant to respond to Hodar...not you.


82 posted on 05/09/2012 5:24:12 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: milford421

I have no problem defending my faith. Stewart was wrong. Stewart is a jackass. I didn’t watch him ... but, if I could’ve, I’d have shut off the show. I’d still buy Kellogg’s cereal, though.

It still wasn’t “hate speech”.

The “gay thing” is on point. I’m talking about over-sensitive people labeling offensive speech “hate speech” as an attempt to silence it.

I come in out of the rain when the job is done.

SnakeDoc


83 posted on 05/09/2012 6:52:47 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SnakeDoctor

The left screams about those who disagree with them attempting to “silence” them.

The right calls for responsibility and accountability.

Obviously, you’re not offended enough to do anything about the hate speech coming from Stewart and his ilk...those frosted flakes really must be something.

They will get soggy in the rain.


84 posted on 05/10/2012 3:58:49 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Sun; caww; Clintonfatigued

ping


85 posted on 05/10/2012 4:02:17 AM PDT by milford421 (U.N. OUT OF U.S.)
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To: milford421

The left screams and whines to attempt to silence opponents. Obviously, some of the right do the same thing. I’d rather not be like a whiny liberal ... just whiny about different stuff.

Right and wrong don’t hinge on how offended I am. Emotional responses are rarely the right ones, and rarely effective.

SnakeDoc


86 posted on 05/10/2012 9:48:15 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: Hodar; milford421; All

“..that said, you are free to watch him as much, or as little, as you would like.”

And we are free to boycott Kellogg’s products, which I do.

Grneric products are just as good, and less expensive, anyway.


87 posted on 05/10/2012 11:21:48 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: netmilsmom

“List of Kellogg products

http://www.kelloggs.com/en_US/home.html

Thanx for that link!


88 posted on 05/10/2012 11:22:58 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; milford421

Kellogg’s phone number:

“Contact us.
Call Consumer Affairs
1-800-962-1413”

Let them know why we are boycotting.

I think they also contribute to Planned Parenthood.


89 posted on 05/10/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

“Right and wrong don’t hinge on how offended I am. “

You are absolutely correct.

“The left screams and whines to attempt to silence opponents.”

They do.
“I’d rather not be like a whiny liberal ... just whiny about different stuff.”

Fair enough Snake Doc.


90 posted on 05/10/2012 2:44:19 PM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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To: Sun; netmilsmom

Thanks for all the contact info Sun. I’m on it too.


91 posted on 05/10/2012 2:47:30 PM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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To: milford421

You are welcome.

Lots of good folks on this popular thread.


92 posted on 05/10/2012 7:36:09 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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