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NBC: Obesity 'No Longer A Question of Individual Responsibility,' Government Must Act
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Posted on 05/09/2012 2:21:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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1 posted on 05/09/2012 2:22:05 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

How many people read FR whilst jogging?

Point made.


2 posted on 05/09/2012 2:23:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The smokers told us this was coming.


3 posted on 05/09/2012 2:25:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, they want Uncle Sam to start forcibly starving fat people now?


4 posted on 05/09/2012 2:26:06 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Sub-Driver

>> There are even worries that airplane seat belts can’t protect the many heavy passengers.

I’m so glad I don’t fly anywhere anymore. I’d hate to be in a plane crash at 400 mph and get hit by a flying fat person!


5 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:11 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver
Individuals invite government oppression against all when they don't take personal responsibility. Thanks hefties.

6 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:18 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

But don’t worry. It’s not a dictatorship because you won’t actually be shot or shipped to camp for noncompliance. Just fined by the IRS. So it’s OK!


7 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:31 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: Sub-Driver

“You have exceeded the weight paramaters for your classification”

“You will be transfered to Fema Fat Farm 206Z for training and re-education.”


8 posted on 05/09/2012 2:28:12 PM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Sub-Driver

is this not one of the most frightening things you ever heard?


9 posted on 05/09/2012 2:28:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: All

Problem solved if people had individual reponsibility via their insurance premiums for PROVEN health profile risks.

No government intervention could then be justified.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 2:29:12 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The problem with any government “direction” regarding obesity is that they are too heavily influenced by lobbyists from the food industry and are ignorant to the real reasons why obesity is becomming an epidemic.

As someone who has lost over 100 lbs, I have a lot of personal experience to draw from on this topic. The food in our grocery stores is killing us. All government intervention, up to this point, has thrust more horrid products upon us and ignores well established science all in the name of garnering incresed contributions from the large agri-businesses. Screw them all!


11 posted on 05/09/2012 2:29:46 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Timber Rattler

>>So, they want Uncle Sam to start forcibly starving fat people now?

No, they want to starve everyone, but they’re afraid that the fat people will still have enough energy reserves to fight once we realize what’s happening.

This government is not a political opponent or bad idea...it is our mortal enemy.


12 posted on 05/09/2012 2:29:46 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: maine yankee

Well, they can start with limiting the EBT cards — I stood in line at a liquor store last night behind a woman with Haagen DaZ, sodas and chips who announced to the clerk “take it out of my EBT card.”


13 posted on 05/09/2012 2:30:35 PM PDT by bunster
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To: Sub-Driver

Solution: Make it so the EBT cards won’t work for junk food.

When I was working at the grocery store I got to where I could tell who was paying with EBT before they even got to my register. They were the ones with arrogant expressions, the carts full of chips, cheetos, soda, beer, and frozen pizza bites, and their kids ranging out of control.

Only once did I see someone use an EBT card for healthy food. Her kids were polite and well behaved, and when she handed me the card she looked ashamed of it. I’ve often wondered what happened to her. I would bet that she didn’t stay on food stamps long.


15 posted on 05/09/2012 2:32:24 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Sub-Driver

What about people who are skinny and can’t gain weight? Should the government step in on that too. Make everyone sort of standard weight?


16 posted on 05/09/2012 2:33:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Sub-Driver
I cut out an article from the Wall Street Journal a couple of months ago (maybe it was the Weekly Standard), that said the Left's next manufactured crisis, after climate change, was going to be "The Obesity Epidemic". It was supposed to be that chemical in plastic, but since manufacturers haven't put it in plastic for years, they decided on obesity. It goes with healthcare better, anyways.

Get ready for the full court press on what you eat. It will be called the "fat tax".

17 posted on 05/09/2012 2:34:22 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Timber Rattler

just more election distraction


18 posted on 05/09/2012 2:35:07 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Sub-Driver

My doctors clearly haven’t gotten the memo...they keep saying that *I* could stand to lose a few pounds,that *I* should modify my eating habits,that *I* should get more exercise.And all this time it was the *government’s* responsibility.


19 posted on 05/09/2012 2:35:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: GeronL

I’d sooner have the old presidental physical fitness programs of the sixties back, than this food nannydom.

Offer discounts on health insurance to people who walk, say, four miles a week and keep some sort of reasonable documentation of it. That would be more sensible.


20 posted on 05/09/2012 2:38:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Or it was society’s fault and nobody can address this shortcoming of society but government.

My dear Lord! How blatant can Barack GET with this Marxism?


21 posted on 05/09/2012 2:40:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Almost 70 years ago H.L. Menken noted the following:

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

22 posted on 05/09/2012 2:40:05 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: Sub-Driver; All

“The STATE is Mother, The STATE is Father, The STATE is the provider of ALL.”

(Does anyone have the full quote for this?)


23 posted on 05/09/2012 2:42:07 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Sub-Driver

It is time to really start expunging socialists.


24 posted on 05/09/2012 2:43:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Ellendra
When I was working at the grocery store I got to where I could tell who was paying with EBT before they even got to my register.

My sister works in a supermarket deli. Last week (first of the month you know,) a woman she knew to be an EBT, um, client, came in and ordered 20 lbs. of thin-sliced ham.

When my sister handed it to her, the woman told her to do it over because she thought the ham wasn't fresh. My sister resisted and the woman told her she'd have her job.

Sis, without thinking, asked the woman why she didn't even have a job. She got called into the office but the manager was laughing so hard he just cautioned her and let her go back to work.

This is my bleeding-heart-liberal sister who, at the age of 51, divorced and all the kids out the door is working her first job. I can't say she's turning conservative, but this was a good sign.

25 posted on 05/09/2012 2:44:50 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So, can we expect EBT cards to be restricted from buying soda and donuts? Yea, I didn’t think so.


26 posted on 05/09/2012 2:45:21 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Sub-Driver

To be honest, I’ve got mixed feelings on this. In an ideal world the overweight, smokers, addicts, etc. would be left to their devices to bear the responsibilities of their bad health habits. But, since Medicaid and medicare aren’t going anywhere - and we’re footing the bill - they should be held accountable. They also drive up the insurance rates.


27 posted on 05/09/2012 2:46:15 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Is it 2016 yet?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

” It is time to really start expunging socialists. “

I’ll see your ‘expunging’ and raise it to ‘defenestrating’...

;)


28 posted on 05/09/2012 2:48:56 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder if NBC consulted with Al Roker before they made this statement????


29 posted on 05/09/2012 2:49:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Sub-Driver

The only “must” the government has is to p*ss off out of it, and stop sticking its obnoxious collectivist nose into the private business of citizens.

Thanks to busybody commissars and congresscreeps, the United States is coming more and more to resemble Russia after 1918.


30 posted on 05/09/2012 2:49:15 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Sub-Driver

All through Grade and High School in the Fifties and Sixties, we always had a 1 hour gym class every day. At Prep School, in the Fal,l one had a choice; football or soccer, In the Winter, one had a bigger choice; basketball, swimming, or gymnastics. In the Spring; track or baseball. I remember one fat girl in Grad School, and at Prep, one guy who really wasn’t fat, just very stocky!
Now, when I go out, I see tons 8^), of really fat kids with their Moms. It’s quite shocking how so many parents can be so stoopid!
Do I advocate govt control? Hell no!


31 posted on 05/09/2012 2:52:11 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sub-Driver
'No Longer A Question of Individual Responsibility,' Government Must Act ...

Good grief. Completely blind to the slippery slope there. There is nothing the psychotic liberal mind doesn't think a nanny-state 'government' can't 'fix'. All at the expense of personal freedom and independence.

32 posted on 05/09/2012 2:53:25 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RobertClark

Congratulations!


33 posted on 05/09/2012 2:53:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Lou Budvis

Lots of people (FReepers, even) on this thread who are apparently sufficiently ‘without sin’ to be casting stones....

(John 8:7, for those of you who don’t understand the reference...)

-or-

(for those who prefer a more secular citation..)

‘Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master.’ - George Washington


34 posted on 05/09/2012 2:55:08 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Deb
Get ready for the full court press on what you eat. It will be called the "fat tax".

I fear this marks the end of KFC's "double-down":


35 posted on 05/09/2012 2:56:48 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sub-Driver

What about the crisis of the family, divorce epidemic, why not actually give tax credits to those who stay married and reward them each year they do so. That would take care of many issues, including obesity.


36 posted on 05/09/2012 2:57:51 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: circlecity

Mind you, this is the same gubbmint that took a turkey on whole wheat sandwich from a four year old and give her chicken nuggets.


37 posted on 05/09/2012 2:59:25 PM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I weigh 117lb and can lift my own weight. I don't need a nanny, and won't put up with one.

I'll cook what I like, when I like, how I like, with as much salt and fat as I damn well please.

I sometimes fry potatoes in duck fat.

Anyone that says different can sod off.

/johnny

38 posted on 05/09/2012 2:59:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sounds ducky to me. You’re lighter than a lot of teens today. You might dry up and blow away but you’ll never perish of overweight.


39 posted on 05/09/2012 3:02:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
OMG, Becky!!! Don't let them take away one of God's perfect gifts to man!! I run everyday, play racquetball and live on soy lime yogurt so I can have one on Sunday night.

Don't let them take it (sob)...PLEASE!!!!

40 posted on 05/09/2012 3:07:21 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Uncle Ike

You win. Can’t top that. :)


41 posted on 05/09/2012 3:07:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Hey! NBC! Get in ma belleh!"


42 posted on 05/09/2012 3:08:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'm fat because I eat too much and don't exercise enough. I know I need to lose weight for my health, and I'm in the slow process of doing that right now.

I DO NOT want the government getting involved in my life in order to 'help' me. We all know what happens when government tries to 'help'.

43 posted on 05/09/2012 3:10:12 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SkyDancer
What about the people at Six Flags or Carowinds that aren't tall enough to reach the "You must be this tall to get on this ride" mark.

Everyone should be the same height...

44 posted on 05/09/2012 3:14:57 PM PDT by moovova (OBAMA: The first US President to come out of the closet.)
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To: combat_boots

Thank you FRiend.


45 posted on 05/09/2012 3:18:04 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Offer discounts on health insurance to people who walk, say, four miles a week and keep some sort of reasonable documentation of it. That would be more sensible.

Yes, it would be, so it can't possibly be done! ;o)

We already get breaks on homeowner's insurance if we have smoke detectors, and sometimes get breaks on automobile insurance if we drive carefully, and don't get tickets. It would make PERFECT sense to reward, monetarily, those who work to stay healthy. It might even encourage those of us who aren't as healthy as we could be to work at it, if we knew we'd be able to save money.

46 posted on 05/09/2012 3:18:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s total BS! I gained weight before my back surgery 11 years ago and even more in the first 6 years after the surgery. I have now lost all the weight I gained post surgery and am still slowly losing weight. All I had to do was get more discipline about what I eat and get back into the habit of regular aerobic exercise, substituting swimming and cycling for jogging.


47 posted on 05/09/2012 3:20:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Lou Budvis

Dang it, the smokers have paid for their health insurance many times over! Remember the massive tobacco settlement with the states over health claims? The states took that money and used it to balence budgets, build roads and bridges, etc., but interestingly enough, did not put any of it back to pay for the smoker’s “health problems”. Then the feds put on more taxes on tobacco to pay for poor children’s insurance.

Smokers may not live as long as non-smokers, so they will not burden the Medicare system. Smokers also may not be around to help bankrupt the Social Security system. They deserve your thanks.

Remember how we were told that if people stopped smoking, insurance rates would stablize or start going down? They won’t, and obesity is just the latest boogeyman.

We need to phase out Medicaid and Medicare and let the free market do it’s magic.


48 posted on 05/09/2012 3:31:33 PM PDT by LSAggie
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To: Ellendra
So they can take 50 minutes to check out, like a WIC check, those things are a nightmare.

I tell you folks, why oh why did Alito have to mention Broccoli when the supreme court was debating health care? I have no doubt this Doctor was sitting there listen to the news and thought “Broccoli, hmm; if the government can make you buy broccoli...” And the rest is history.

49 posted on 05/09/2012 3:43:01 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: LSAggie

” They won’t, and obesity is just the latest boogeyman. “

‘boogeyman’ is a good word for it - and it’s amazing how many of us knee-jerk to it...

The fact is that, unless one happens to die suddenly, probably violently, *everybody*, regardless of lifestyle, will eventually get ill requiring expensive procedures and/or hospitalization - maybe several times - before dying.... (Or did I miss all those ‘news’ stories about health-nuts living forever??)

The only way to be sure to bring down health insurance rates would be for everybody to patriotically step in front of a moving bus on their 40th birthday...


50 posted on 05/09/2012 3:50:42 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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