Skip to comments.NBC: Obesity 'No Longer A Question of Individual Responsibility,' Government Must Act
Posted on 05/09/2012 2:21:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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How many people read FR whilst jogging?
The smokers told us this was coming.
So, they want Uncle Sam to start forcibly starving fat people now?
>> There are even worries that airplane seat belts can’t protect the many heavy passengers.
I’m so glad I don’t fly anywhere anymore. I’d hate to be in a plane crash at 400 mph and get hit by a flying fat person!
But don’t worry. It’s not a dictatorship because you won’t actually be shot or shipped to camp for noncompliance. Just fined by the IRS. So it’s OK!
“You have exceeded the weight paramaters for your classification”
“You will be transfered to Fema Fat Farm 206Z for training and re-education.”
is this not one of the most frightening things you ever heard?
Problem solved if people had individual reponsibility via their insurance premiums for PROVEN health profile risks.
No government intervention could then be justified.
The problem with any government “direction” regarding obesity is that they are too heavily influenced by lobbyists from the food industry and are ignorant to the real reasons why obesity is becomming an epidemic.
As someone who has lost over 100 lbs, I have a lot of personal experience to draw from on this topic. The food in our grocery stores is killing us. All government intervention, up to this point, has thrust more horrid products upon us and ignores well established science all in the name of garnering incresed contributions from the large agri-businesses. Screw them all!
>>So, they want Uncle Sam to start forcibly starving fat people now?
No, they want to starve everyone, but they’re afraid that the fat people will still have enough energy reserves to fight once we realize what’s happening.
This government is not a political opponent or bad idea...it is our mortal enemy.
Well, they can start with limiting the EBT cards — I stood in line at a liquor store last night behind a woman with Haagen DaZ, sodas and chips who announced to the clerk “take it out of my EBT card.”
Solution: Make it so the EBT cards won’t work for junk food.
When I was working at the grocery store I got to where I could tell who was paying with EBT before they even got to my register. They were the ones with arrogant expressions, the carts full of chips, cheetos, soda, beer, and frozen pizza bites, and their kids ranging out of control.
Only once did I see someone use an EBT card for healthy food. Her kids were polite and well behaved, and when she handed me the card she looked ashamed of it. I’ve often wondered what happened to her. I would bet that she didn’t stay on food stamps long.
What about people who are skinny and can’t gain weight? Should the government step in on that too. Make everyone sort of standard weight?
Get ready for the full court press on what you eat. It will be called the "fat tax".
just more election distraction
My doctors clearly haven’t gotten the memo...they keep saying that *I* could stand to lose a few pounds,that *I* should modify my eating habits,that *I* should get more exercise.And all this time it was the *government’s* responsibility.
I’d sooner have the old presidental physical fitness programs of the sixties back, than this food nannydom.
Offer discounts on health insurance to people who walk, say, four miles a week and keep some sort of reasonable documentation of it. That would be more sensible.
Or it was society’s fault and nobody can address this shortcoming of society but government.
My dear Lord! How blatant can Barack GET with this Marxism?
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
“The STATE is Mother, The STATE is Father, The STATE is the provider of ALL.”
(Does anyone have the full quote for this?)
It is time to really start expunging socialists.
My sister works in a supermarket deli. Last week (first of the month you know,) a woman she knew to be an EBT, um, client, came in and ordered 20 lbs. of thin-sliced ham.
When my sister handed it to her, the woman told her to do it over because she thought the ham wasn't fresh. My sister resisted and the woman told her she'd have her job.
Sis, without thinking, asked the woman why she didn't even have a job. She got called into the office but the manager was laughing so hard he just cautioned her and let her go back to work.
This is my bleeding-heart-liberal sister who, at the age of 51, divorced and all the kids out the door is working her first job. I can't say she's turning conservative, but this was a good sign.
So, can we expect EBT cards to be restricted from buying soda and donuts? Yea, I didn’t think so.
To be honest, I’ve got mixed feelings on this. In an ideal world the overweight, smokers, addicts, etc. would be left to their devices to bear the responsibilities of their bad health habits. But, since Medicaid and medicare aren’t going anywhere - and we’re footing the bill - they should be held accountable. They also drive up the insurance rates.
” It is time to really start expunging socialists. “
I’ll see your ‘expunging’ and raise it to ‘defenestrating’...
I wonder if NBC consulted with Al Roker before they made this statement????
The only “must” the government has is to p*ss off out of it, and stop sticking its obnoxious collectivist nose into the private business of citizens.
Thanks to busybody commissars and congresscreeps, the United States is coming more and more to resemble Russia after 1918.
All through Grade and High School in the Fifties and Sixties, we always had a 1 hour gym class every day. At Prep School, in the Fal,l one had a choice; football or soccer, In the Winter, one had a bigger choice; basketball, swimming, or gymnastics. In the Spring; track or baseball. I remember one fat girl in Grad School, and at Prep, one guy who really wasn’t fat, just very stocky!
Now, when I go out, I see tons 8^), of really fat kids with their Moms. It’s quite shocking how so many parents can be so stoopid!
Do I advocate govt control? Hell no!
Good grief. Completely blind to the slippery slope there. There is nothing the psychotic liberal mind doesn't think a nanny-state 'government' can't 'fix'. All at the expense of personal freedom and independence.
Lots of people (FReepers, even) on this thread who are apparently sufficiently ‘without sin’ to be casting stones....
(John 8:7, for those of you who don’t understand the reference...)
(for those who prefer a more secular citation..)
‘Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master.’ - George Washington
I fear this marks the end of KFC's "double-down":
What about the crisis of the family, divorce epidemic, why not actually give tax credits to those who stay married and reward them each year they do so. That would take care of many issues, including obesity.
Mind you, this is the same gubbmint that took a turkey on whole wheat sandwich from a four year old and give her chicken nuggets.
I'll cook what I like, when I like, how I like, with as much salt and fat as I damn well please.
I sometimes fry potatoes in duck fat.
Anyone that says different can sod off.
Sounds ducky to me. You’re lighter than a lot of teens today. You might dry up and blow away but you’ll never perish of overweight.
Don't let them take it (sob)...PLEASE!!!!
You win. Can’t top that. :)
I DO NOT want the government getting involved in my life in order to 'help' me. We all know what happens when government tries to 'help'.
Everyone should be the same height...
Thank you FRiend.
Yes, it would be, so it can't possibly be done! ;o)
We already get breaks on homeowner's insurance if we have smoke detectors, and sometimes get breaks on automobile insurance if we drive carefully, and don't get tickets. It would make PERFECT sense to reward, monetarily, those who work to stay healthy. It might even encourage those of us who aren't as healthy as we could be to work at it, if we knew we'd be able to save money.
That’s total BS! I gained weight before my back surgery 11 years ago and even more in the first 6 years after the surgery. I have now lost all the weight I gained post surgery and am still slowly losing weight. All I had to do was get more discipline about what I eat and get back into the habit of regular aerobic exercise, substituting swimming and cycling for jogging.
Dang it, the smokers have paid for their health insurance many times over! Remember the massive tobacco settlement with the states over health claims? The states took that money and used it to balence budgets, build roads and bridges, etc., but interestingly enough, did not put any of it back to pay for the smoker’s “health problems”. Then the feds put on more taxes on tobacco to pay for poor children’s insurance.
Smokers may not live as long as non-smokers, so they will not burden the Medicare system. Smokers also may not be around to help bankrupt the Social Security system. They deserve your thanks.
Remember how we were told that if people stopped smoking, insurance rates would stablize or start going down? They won’t, and obesity is just the latest boogeyman.
We need to phase out Medicaid and Medicare and let the free market do it’s magic.
I tell you folks, why oh why did Alito have to mention Broccoli when the supreme court was debating health care? I have no doubt this Doctor was sitting there listen to the news and thought “Broccoli, hmm; if the government can make you buy broccoli...” And the rest is history.
” They wont, and obesity is just the latest boogeyman. “
‘boogeyman’ is a good word for it - and it’s amazing how many of us knee-jerk to it...
The fact is that, unless one happens to die suddenly, probably violently, *everybody*, regardless of lifestyle, will eventually get ill requiring expensive procedures and/or hospitalization - maybe several times - before dying.... (Or did I miss all those ‘news’ stories about health-nuts living forever??)
The only way to be sure to bring down health insurance rates would be for everybody to patriotically step in front of a moving bus on their 40th birthday...