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Why Jews Hate Guns
JPFO website ^ | May 9, 2012 | Alan Korwin and Rabbi Dovid Bendory

Posted on 05/09/2012 10:32:55 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

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To: ansel12

Look, Jews (and Catholics) were heavily discriminated against by Protestants when they first came over and for many decades after that. Naturally, they’re going to be attracted to a party, The Democrat Party, that welcomes them. It’s difficult to determine how many Jews would be conservatives if it weren’t for people like Henry Ford, the so-called saviors of Christianity, the KKK, and other people and orgs who made their hatred of Jews and other non-WASPs a very open secret.


61 posted on 05/10/2012 2:10:06 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Sorry, but they brought their European liberalism and unionism to America, evil America did not ruin them, it was one of the things that Protestants created America for, to escape European leftism.

The Democrat Party that they were devoted to WAS the party of the KKK.


62 posted on 05/10/2012 2:28:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: onedoug

ping


63 posted on 05/10/2012 3:06:02 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: ansel12

To be sure there were plenty of leftists in the Jewish immigrants of the late 1800s and early 1900s. But the fact is, they were made to feel unwelcome by the WASP majority. The KKK wasn’t a force in the big northern cities. The Dem Party eagerly lapped up the Jewish vote while the Republicans missed their chance.


64 posted on 05/10/2012 4:36:34 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

LOL, no, the GOP did not drive away the Jews at the beginning, or the middle, or today, or forever, they are devoted democrats, always have been and always will be.

Blacks were devoted republicans until 1936, Jews have never voted republican.


65 posted on 05/10/2012 4:58:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: ansel12
"devoted Democrats"

yeah, I guess that's why Reagan only got 40% of the Jewish vote in 1980. Carter got 40%. lol

66 posted on 05/10/2012 6:48:45 PM PDT by driftless2
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I think the author ignored an important factor, most Jews reside in large urban areas and, frankly, don't vote much different from the people around them.

For those worried about the lack of Jewish cowboys and the Goldwaters and the KKK I give you.


hardly allies of the Goldwater clan, though yes, the KKK supported Barry, support he rejected.

Second from the left, Solomon Bibo. Farmer, rancher, and Chief of the Acoma Pueblo

And then theres

I've often been surprised by the exhibits in many museums in the Southwest of western Jews, and recall stumbling on large temporary exihibitions in both Phoenix and Santa Fe on the topic. Not many Jews in the west, but they were around.

67 posted on 05/10/2012 6:50:42 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: driftless2

Republicans got 27% of the Jewish vote in 1976, 39% in 1980, and 31% in 1984, what is your point, that I used the word democrat in place of liberal?


68 posted on 05/10/2012 7:11:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: SJackson
I think the author ignored an important factor, most Jews reside in large urban areas and, frankly, don't vote much different from the people around them.

When I have looked at that, it doesn't hold up, the Jewish vote was always farther left, until this thing with black voting really hardened up.

69 posted on 05/10/2012 7:19:22 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: SJackson
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70 posted on 05/10/2012 7:29:07 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
The leftism of liberal Jews and some conservative Jews is due mainly to the success of Communist propaganda in the US over the past 90 years. They convinced a lot of people who hated the Czar that communists were their saviors and a whole bunch of people bought it, hook, line, and sickle.

That seems like an incredibly lame explanation, poof, suddenly in 1920 almost all American Jews suddenly became genetically left wingers, when before they weren't.

71 posted on 05/10/2012 7:30:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: ansel12
Misguided secular Tikkun haOlam

72 posted on 05/10/2012 7:57:41 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Hildy
Hildy said: "...you are going to be shocked ..."

Can you explain why? What has changed for them since 2008?

73 posted on 05/10/2012 8:49:18 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

ObamaCare and Israel.


74 posted on 05/10/2012 9:31:33 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I will never understand this.
If the Jews were armed during the rise of Nazism and WWII, could the Holocaust have taken place on such a scale.
The story if the Warsaw Ghetto belies this stupidity. The Jews in the WG made sure they were heavily armed... with guns, and when attacked fought a heroic battle at kept the Nazis at bay for a long time, killing off a whole lot of them.


75 posted on 05/10/2012 10:32:33 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Hildy
Hildy said: "ObamaCare and Israel."

I can't figure out how American Jews, who support the party of personal disarmament, can have any care for a fully armed Israel. But somehow they think that Israel is justified in arming itself for defense against its enemies, and yet Americans should not arm themselves in defense of themselves.

But why Obamacare?

76 posted on 05/10/2012 10:42:01 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

An inordinate amount of Jews are doctors or have doctors in their families. Doctors hate Obamacare. I personal know so mamy that are beside themselves with anger. I’d say 90% of the Jews I know who voted for Obama in 2008 have told me they will not vote fo him again.
Anecdotal, true... But I believe it. As an added point, several Of my friends have told me that they will vote for Romney, but they would not have voted for any of the other primary candidates.


77 posted on 05/10/2012 11:06:52 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Do you have any idea how many Jews there are on FreeRepublic and how many of .conservative’s best spokespeople are jewish. Therefore, I am I am a bit bent out of shape by your stereotype.


78 posted on 05/10/2012 11:14:17 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Cincinna

In follow-up to my prior post, I did some pondering as to why Israeli attitudes are so different compared to their European cousins in the states...consider this series of events unique to those that made it to Palestine after the war:

1.) The Holocaust. Surviving near-total industrial elimination of your kin, on a scale unseen before in history.

2.) Palestine/early State of Israel. Escaping to your promised land, and for the first time in life, there’s no secular authority to be servile to (that will protect you, anyway)...quite literally, you and yours are on your own.

3.) Knowledge of those who resisted, be it the Warsaw Ghetto, Sobibor, Dachau, et al....there might even be a few of the survivors in your community.

4.) On a personal level, picking up a surplus Mauser 98K or Sten gun, blasting several bad guys looking to eliminate you and yours, holding the battle line for your village...and for the first time in your life, realizing you’ve resisted AND WON.

I can see that (especially #4, with personal experience of the great force multiplier that is the modern firearm) knocking the scales from a LOT of eyes.


79 posted on 05/10/2012 11:17:28 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Hildy
Hildy said: "Therefore, I am I am a bit bent out of shape by your stereotype."

I believe I have read that 90 to 95 percent of Blacks voted for Obama. It would not be an unfair "stereotype" to say that the typical Black supports Obama and will probably vote for him in November.

What can you say about American Jews? How did they vote in 2008 and how do you think they will vote in 2012?

80 posted on 05/10/2012 11:43:47 PM PDT by William Tell
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