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Man, 84, shoots home invasion suspect with Korean War gun(PA)
wpxi.com ^ | 8 May, 2012 | NA

Posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:38 AM PDT by marktwain

ELIZABETH TOWNSHIP, Pa. —

Police said they caught a home invasion suspect moments after he was shot while breaking into a home Tuesday morning.

According to police, Raymond Hills, 25, fled from the Elizabeth Township home just after 4:30 a.m. when 84-year-old Fred Ricciutti shot him with the German Luger he used in the Korean War.

"I said 'Halt, who's there?'" said Ricciutti. "I'm thinking, friend or foe, he shouldn't be there that time of day."

Ricciutti said he was awoken when he heard Hiles breaking in through an unlocked kitchen window. When he confronted the intruder standing in his doorway, Ricciutti fired.

The bullet grazed Hiles in the back of the neck, as well as a door and storm door window.

Ricciutti said he then called police, and Hiles was caught a few blocks away from Ricciutti's home.

According to police, Hiles had a screwdriver and stun gun on him when Elizabeth Township police arrested him.

Officials said Hiles was taken to jail Tuesday wearing a bandage on his neck from the bullet wound.

Authorities said they don't plan on filing any charges against Ricciutti.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; korea; pa; vet
One lucky burglar. Maybe he will learn a lesson.
1 posted on 05/10/2012 7:42:44 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Life imitates ...

2 posted on 05/10/2012 7:44:20 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: marktwain

A Luger in the Korean War? There is something strange about this claim.


3 posted on 05/10/2012 7:47:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: marktwain

4 posted on 05/10/2012 7:47:52 AM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq <font finger=middle>)
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To: Last Dakotan
Life imitates ...

"Get off my lawn".Good film...certainly not the best he's ever done but still good.The Cambodians were really good,so good that I would have strangled those young "punks" myself.

5 posted on 05/10/2012 7:50:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: marktwain
"I said 'Halt, who's there?'"

He should have said "Thunder" and fired when he did not get the appropriate response of "Flash."

6 posted on 05/10/2012 8:00:39 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yeah that was my thought as well. Maybe it was a Lugar? Actually just kidding on that one.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 8:02:04 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Last Dakotan

Good one LD.


8 posted on 05/10/2012 8:02:45 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: marktwain
German Luger he used in the Korean War.

????

I bet there's a great story behind that ...

9 posted on 05/10/2012 8:04:51 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marktwain

“The bullet grazed Hiles in the back of the neck, as well as a door and storm door window.”

I didn’t know doors and storm door windows had necks?!?!


10 posted on 05/10/2012 8:07:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: edpc
"I said 'Halt, who's there?'"

I like it better when they say, "Stop, >>BANG<< >>BANG<< >>BANG<< >>BANG<< >>BANG<<, or I'll shoot..."

11 posted on 05/10/2012 8:11:23 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: tomkat
The bullet grazed Hiles in the back of the neck, as well as a door and storm door window.

I'm feeling bad about the door and storm window.

12 posted on 05/10/2012 8:18:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Just a little...


13 posted on 05/10/2012 8:20:56 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: marktwain

Which “Elizabeth Twp”? Practically every county in Pennsylvania has one. I lived in one (Lancaster County) and near another (Allegheny County).


14 posted on 05/10/2012 8:22:03 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Tallguy

I’m guessing Allegheny County. The one in Lancaster County has no police force, as far as I know. Plus you’re more likely to run into a loaded rifle in Allegheny. A lot of Philly transplants live in northern Lancaster County.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 8:24:06 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Tallguy

Yes, this is at the far southern tip of Allegheny County.
Close to some former steel mill towns where civilization has basically collapsed (Clairton, Monessen, Donora....)


16 posted on 05/10/2012 8:42:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

What I thought. Also, the Elizabeth Twp in Lancaster usually gets tagged “Lititz”, which is the nearest significant town.


17 posted on 05/10/2012 8:49:27 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: ArrogantBustard; SWAMPSNIPER

The reporter said it was a German Luger. He may have simply meant ‘handgun’. You know how reporters are sticklers for those sorts of things.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 8:55:42 AM PDT by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Dang. I thought I would be the first to post it...:)


19 posted on 05/10/2012 9:01:49 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: marktwain
Fred Ricciutti shot him with the German Luger he used in the Korean War.

An american soldier would obviously not have used a German luger as a sidearm in the Korean War. However, the Soviet Union had huge stockpiles of captured German weapons from WWII that they in turn supplied many commnist forces around the world with.

Mr Ricciutti may have obtained the luger from a NORK or ChiCom that no longer had any use for it.

20 posted on 05/10/2012 9:02:08 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Last Dakotan
Absolute favorite quote from that movie:

"Ever notice how you come across somebody once in a while you shouldn't have f****d with? That's me."

Hahaha, he must write his own scripts...

21 posted on 05/10/2012 9:06:47 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: Wingy

He may have simply meant ‘handgun’.
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Yeah....probably in his last story he referred to a Daisy BB Gun as an UZI, so he was just trying to be ‘safe’ here.

The one ‘story’ (in the comments) of the guy ‘finding’ a Luger on the battle field does sound plausible but don’t count on the ‘reporter’ thinking along these lines.

Getting like these murderous “SUV’s” on the highways attacking other motorists and running red lights.


22 posted on 05/10/2012 9:23:41 AM PDT by xrmusn (#6/98# Let's start from scratch by voting ALL incumbents out.)
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To: Last Dakotan

It’s a shame he didn’t use an M1.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 9:41:03 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: xrmusn
Maybe the reporter hasn't gotten his copy of the Journalist Firearms Guide?


JournalistFirearmsGuide


Or maybe he hasn't been briefed by the NYT reporters about the HellGlock.

HellGlock

24 posted on 05/10/2012 9:48:58 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Chinese troops early on had German equipment, bought in the 30s. Seen pictures of chinese troops in German Stahlhelms and feldgrau wermacht-style uniforms.

ChiComs could have had them, after they ran the Nationalist troops out.

He could have captured it from some ChiCom “volunteer”, or taken it off his corpse. I’ve also seen vintage C-96 Broomhandle Mausers that were issued to the Chinese.

Anything’s possible, I suppose...


25 posted on 05/10/2012 9:56:44 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

The other possibility is that it was his own personal weapon that he took along with him.

Where he got it from is the story.

Korea, Viet Nam and I think (not sure) even Iraq and Afgan troops could use personal weapons.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 10:13:32 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

The article says Lugar so it could have been an M1 Garand.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 10:16:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Could be.

My old man was WWII airborne, and he brought back a Luger and a Walther P38 as well.

I’d think, though, that something of that nature, i.e., a war trophy, would be something that you’d NOT want to lose, though, or even expose to the possibility of losing, by taking it into another war zone.

At any rate, glad he put one in the perp. That’ll teach his ass to mess with one of “The Greatest Generation”...


28 posted on 05/10/2012 10:19:25 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: marktwain

After WWII there was a profusion of P08 Lugers in the US.

The Germans decided to phase them out, ending production in 1942, and switching to the Walther P38. So by the end of the war, there was a huge collection of P08’s that needed to be disposed of. Since many were in reasonably good condition, they were imported and sold in the US.

Since a lot of the Korean War soldiers had gone into the Reserves after WWII, they snapped up a lot of these Lugers as mementos. Then, when Korea happened, they brought them along with to have in addition to their rifle.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 10:39:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Good chance it was is personal side arm and it was the one he had.


30 posted on 05/10/2012 12:46:33 PM PDT by riverrunner
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