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Obama could gain critical votes over gay marriage issue
Tribune-Review (Pittsburgh area) ^ | 10 May 2012 | A**isified Press Wire

Posted on 05/10/2012 11:34:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

Analysis

WASHINGTON -- Public opinion about gay marriage has changed so rapidly that President Obama's historic embrace of it may pose as many political risks to Republicans as to the president and his fellow Democrats.

The president's dramatic shift on the issue -- a watershed moment in U.S. politics, even if many people felt it was inevitable -- is the latest sign that Democratic hopes increasingly rest on younger, college-educated and largely urban voters, whose lifestyles are shaped by social mobility more than religious and community traditions. Many young adults find the notion of discriminating against gays and lesbians as incomprehensible as their parents' and grandparents' accounts of living through racial segregation.

Yet same-sex marriage remains provocative in some places, including once-reliably Republican states such as North Carolina, where Obama won a narrow but stunning victory in 2008. Only hours before his Wednesday announcement on ABC News, North Carolina voters turned out in huge numbers to approve a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

(Excerpt) Read more at triblive.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gay; marriage; square; wheel
Even though this was published in our local fishwrap, I'm excerpting it because it originated with the AP.

Is the AP delusional? Is Bama going to increase his share of the NAMBLA vote from 97.6% to 99.8%? Or his share of the mush-headed under 30 vote from 69% to 70%?

1 posted on 05/10/2012 11:34:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

I know how we feel as Conservatives, but with the populace as a whole, this issue is going to be a wash. For most people it isn’t a major issue. America is pretty much split on it. And while I feel strongly in my views, well ... they haven’t yet asked me to appoint the POTUS.

Santorum 2012


2 posted on 05/10/2012 11:38:38 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Vigilanteman
It is very likely he will lose votes over this. Rush said today that female blacks are the strongest opponents of gay marriage demographically.

It's not that they would vote for a Republican its that they may not vote at all because of this. He has a 98% block that may now "under-produce"..

3 posted on 05/10/2012 11:39:43 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Vigilanteman

So, who will be voting for him now that wouldn’t have voted for him before?


4 posted on 05/10/2012 11:40:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Vigilanteman
Public opinion about gay marriage has changed so rapidly that President Obama's historic embrace of it may pose as many political risks to Republicans as to the president and his fellow Democrats.

Blacks in North Carolina voted two to one AGAINST marriage between sodomites. The AP is delusional.

5 posted on 05/10/2012 11:41:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Vigilanteman

Compare obesity to homosexuality in Obamacare $$....bet homosexuality is far more expensive.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 11:43:09 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Vigilanteman

Yeah, the black and Latino voters are all going to accept gay marriage now.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 11:43:50 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Vigilanteman

He has made his election a national referendum on this issue

And we seee how that is going .... in the states where voters are actually allowed to vote and not having this crammed down their throats (as done in Maryland)

PS: It’s still about the economy, out of control spending, the war on terror, and about two men and one woman (Obama Reid and Pelosi) blatantly disregarding the Constitution when it does not suit their agenda


8 posted on 05/10/2012 11:44:57 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Vigilanteman

Obama’s focus groups are way out of focus.


9 posted on 05/10/2012 11:45:36 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Vigilanteman

I have to think this would be the last straw for any Catholics who may have still been on the fence about him. Between funding abortion, mandating free birth control for all health insurance coverage, and now this.... I cannot see how they could pull the lever for 0bama, no matter how liberal they may be.


10 posted on 05/10/2012 11:46:13 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: struggle

He gained some money from the 20% of his bundlers that are homosexuals,

but as far as votes? Probably not.


11 posted on 05/10/2012 11:46:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: pfflier

>> It’s not that they would vote for a Republican its that they may not vote at all because of this. He has a 98% block that may now “under-produce”.

You nailed it.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 11:46:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Vigilanteman

How many queers were NOT going to vote for Hussein?


13 posted on 05/10/2012 11:47:08 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Vigilanteman

This issue may be the green light issue for the Christian electorate. Christians have a high percentages of unregistered voters and voters who do not vote. This issue, if any, will drive them to the polls.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 11:47:53 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Yet same-sex marriage remains provocative in some places”

Yep, 31 states is just ‘some places’.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 11:51:18 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Vigilanteman

This is not an issue that will motivate you to want to vote FOR Obama unless you are gay and want to get married.

People under 30 I have found are generally agnostic on the issue. They have no problem with the concept, but are not going to get out and vote on the issue of gay marriage.

Among all other voter groups I think this is a loser.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 11:51:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yoe

You are so right.

These commies want to ban burgers, beer, chips, eggs, whiskey and milk but they’re hell bent on faggotry from cradle to grave.


17 posted on 05/10/2012 11:52:25 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: MrB
So, who will be voting for him now that wouldn’t have voted for him before?

Exactly, because otherwise the pro-homosexual "marriage" types would vote for.... whom?

18 posted on 05/10/2012 11:56:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: RIghtwardHo
” America is pretty much split on it.”

A 65-35 split with Ojackass on the wrong end of that.

The Queers are only 2% of the population and the morons that support their filthy agenda are about 1/3.

19 posted on 05/10/2012 11:58:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Whenever you see “hypocrisy” or “inconsistency” on the left, you’re “standing too close”.

Take a step back and look at the agenda.
Control.
Removing the sovereignty (and even the existance) of the nuclear family, and replacing it with a central big brother authority.

Obama named his “model citizen” “Julia” for a good reason.
She’s the main female character in “1984”.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 11:58:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Vigilanteman

The AP is entitled to its fantasies, which it publishes in place of news. My bet is that Obama loses in November.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 11:59:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Obama could gain critical votes over gay marriage issue

ROTFL! Yup!

Just say NO to drugs.

22 posted on 05/10/2012 12:01:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: popdonnelly

Asspress always talks about what a loser social issues are. Now look at them. Obama can’t run on the economy, even with the press saying how great things are.


23 posted on 05/10/2012 12:03:40 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: struggle; RIghtwardHo
The ObaMao political calculation is that black and Latino voters are all going to overlook this given more promises of free stuff which matters more to them.

On the surface, the issue may appear to be a wash since the country is fairly evenly divided. But we've had less than a decade where this sh*t has become law in a handful of exotic atypical states, some by legislative vote (New Hampshire), some by judicial fiat (Iowa).

Give it a little more time and you will see lawsuits wanting to legalize polygamy and other alternative forms of marriage make their way through the courts. This will be followed by the pink mafia wanting to silence opponents or even force them to perform gay marriages. When that happens, around 80% of the current supporters will wake up and realize it was never about marriage rights. It was about giving the homo lobby the right to redefine marriage and reshape society in their own image.

Experience is a dear school, but a fool will learn in no other. The tuition bill for ObaMao's first term school for a lot of these fools is now coming due . . . as it will for the supporters of gay marriage.

24 posted on 05/10/2012 12:10:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

The liberal mainstream media seems to think this is going to fire up the college age 18-25 vote back to 2008 levels. I disagree, young people have to survive too, and Gay Marriage isn’t exactly the most important issue when you can’t find a job.


25 posted on 05/10/2012 12:11:52 PM PDT by apillar
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To: MrB
So, who will be voting for him now that wouldn’t have voted for him before?

No one I can think of. But this is not about votes, it is about money. The homosexual lobby was threatening to dry up funding unless obama stood up for them. So he did.

26 posted on 05/10/2012 12:13:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vigilanteman

The whole thing isn’t about gay marriage - you can be gay and get married, it is about changing the meaning of marriage away from ‘a union of a man and a woman in matrimony.’ Obama says he believes in a dictionary that most Americans don’t. It gains him zero votes - and likely loses him some.

Great campaign tactic.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 12:13:38 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Obama sure is doing a great job of getting those who were already going to vote for him to vote for him. . .if they show up to vote at all.

Meanwhile, what is that unemployment rate?


28 posted on 05/10/2012 12:15:03 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Vigilanteman

So where are we today:

1) Republicans are racist, check.
2) Republicans are sexist, check.
3) Republicans are homophobic, we can check that one off now.
4) democrats need a new schtick, check.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 12:16:53 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: NEMDF
"I have to think this would be the last straw for any Catholics who may have still been on the fence about him. Between funding abortion, mandating free birth control for all health insurance coverage, and now this.... I cannot see how they could pull the lever for 0bama, no matter how liberal they may be." My husband's friend in NJ, who is married with kids and who is a staunch Democrat put this up on his FB page today: "I am very proud of our President; I just wish it hadn't taken him 3+ years to say it." Along with a picture of this: The Dems are a stupid lot, and they swallow the Kool-aid all the time. Believe me, a lot of Catholics are in this group. I've seen a lot of so called Catholics on FB alone sharing this image amongst themselves. They are going to vote for him big time.
30 posted on 05/10/2012 12:28:56 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Vigilanteman
“Obama could gain critical votes over gay marriage issue and the moon might actually be made of green cheese - film at 11”
31 posted on 05/10/2012 12:30:58 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Don Corleone

“Obama’s focus groups are way out of focus.”

Nope. He’s shoring up his base since his Presidency is a disaster. It’s pretty funny actually. At this point, he should be campaigning for independents, not begging for money from people that should be financing his campaign by default.

This would be even funnier if the Rs were running someone I was dying to support :-).


32 posted on 05/10/2012 12:59:51 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Vigilanteman
Obama could gain critical votes over gay marriage issue
Right, like gays were all about Republicans/Romney before this.
33 posted on 05/10/2012 1:44:26 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: RIghtwardHo
For most people it isn’t a major issue. America is pretty much split on it.
You couldn't be more wrong and "split" is 50/50 only in your mind.
34 posted on 05/10/2012 1:48:20 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Look at the big news sites... They keep talking about it, but nobody is reading the posted articles. Beck this morning couldn’t understand it. It’s simple, it isn’t news. Who DIDN’T think Obama was pro gay and anti marriage? Ho hum, slow news day. Now give me some NEWS instead of OLDS, then maybe I will have something to care about today.


35 posted on 05/10/2012 1:53:10 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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