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Dodge Dart Is Back After 36 Years
http://www.kansascity.com ^ | May 09, 2012 | ANN M. JOB

Posted on 05/10/2012 11:51:39 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

After 36 years, the Dodge Dart is back, and it's no retro model.

The 2013 Dart five-seat sedan is modern and stylish, with European handling and heritage, fun features, 10 air bags and fuel-thrifty engines, including two turbos. And smart design and attention to detail inside the Dart successfully groups the information from the gauges with the controls in the center of the dashboard better than any car — Dodge or otherwise.

The slew of features, standard on some models and optional on others, include denim material seat inserts, heated steering wheel and a 8.4-inch touch screen with touch screen buttons bigger than most finger tips.

All Darts also come with a uniquely spacious single glovebox with deep-into-the-dashboard depth. There's also a standard hiding place for small items under the front-passenger seat cushion. The cushion pulls up to reveal the hidden storage area.

And in its later-arriving Aero model, the new Dart is expected to garner a highway rating of at least 41 miles per gallon in federal government fuel economy tests.

Best of all, the Dart has a competitive starting retail price of $16,790 for a base SE with 160-horsepower, 2-liter, naturally aspirated, four-cylinder engine. This model, with six-speed manual transmission, is rated at 25/36 mpg, and doesn't have air conditioning.

A Dart with turbocharged, 1.4-liter, four-cylinder engine and air conditioning has a starting manufacturer's suggested retail price, including destination charge, of $19,295. By comparison, the 2012 Hyundai Elantra sedan starts at $16,120 with 148-horsepower, naturally aspirated four cylinder and manual transmission, while the base, 2012 Honda Civic sedan with 140-horsepower four cylinder and manual tranny starts at $16,785.

Neither the Elantra nor Civic sedans come with turbos for 2012.

More than 3.6 million Dodge Darts were sold...

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chrysler; dart; dodge; fraud; michigan; sourcetitlenoturl
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"...and it's no retro model." You can say that again. It's a Fiat with Dart badging.
1 posted on 05/10/2012 11:51:41 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss
Looks a bit like a Lexus IS from this side view...


2 posted on 05/10/2012 11:55:13 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: BO Stinkss
It's a Fiat with Dart badging.

And the model name is....

BTW, Have the Tappit brothers chimed in on this?

3 posted on 05/10/2012 11:56:11 AM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: BO Stinkss

I had prayed that Chrysler would resist the temptation to bring out a new Dart. I know Dodge Darts. I owned six of them (not counting one donor car). That little weenie of a car ain’t no Dodge Dart.


4 posted on 05/10/2012 11:56:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: BO Stinkss

There is nothing special about the looks of the vehicle, and it doesn’t look anything like the original.


5 posted on 05/10/2012 11:56:32 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: BO Stinkss

Since Chrysler took those billions of dollars for the tax payers I will NEVER purchase another one of their vehicles again. I have owned one of their minivans since 1986 but no more.


6 posted on 05/10/2012 11:58:05 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: BO Stinkss

- it’s not supposed to look like an old Dart.

- it’s based on an alpha romaeo car.

- it’s not as Fiat as you think. Only one drivetrain out of the three available is Fiat.

- the technology in the car is amazing. Programmable dashboard so you can customize it to show the controls you want. Or not.

- The aero version will get 40-41 mpg.

I’ll be buying a 2014 model after they work out any kinks. I’ve been driving Mopars all my life and I’m not stopping now.

If you don’t like it don’t buy one.


7 posted on 05/10/2012 12:01:21 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: BO Stinkss
Real Darts: ■Seat six in base configuration ■Can be had stripped, no A/C no carpet ■Aren't huge on horsepower, but torque to spare ■Have a simple, nearly bullet-proof in-line six cylinder engine ■Have a trunk large enough to store a stack of carom boards with nothing sticking out. ■Have as few gizmos and safety features as is legally allowed ■Have a manual transmission available, mainly as a column shifter "three on the tree" ■Have little doors in the front corners as air vents ■Were the best new car value for a growing family of American sized people on a budget.
8 posted on 05/10/2012 12:03:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: TheRhinelander
it’s not supposed to look like an old Dart.

Then they shouldn't have called it a Dart.
9 posted on 05/10/2012 12:04:12 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: TheRhinelander

I won’t


10 posted on 05/10/2012 12:04:46 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

“...with European handling and heritage,...”

Going off of a cliff?


11 posted on 05/10/2012 12:06:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Dodge dart with either the slant six or the 318, if the bodies hadn’t rusted out there would still be millions of them on the road.

Two of the most dependable engines Detroit ever built.


12 posted on 05/10/2012 12:07:38 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I liked my old one in the 70's with the indestructable slant 6 motor.

black vinyl top...sexy.

13 posted on 05/10/2012 12:08:16 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: BO Stinkss

If it don’ have a 225 its not a Dart.
Well OK maybe a 318.


14 posted on 05/10/2012 12:08:35 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: newfreep

Like the taxpayers...it looks like it got hit in the rear.


15 posted on 05/10/2012 12:11:37 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!...P.S. Why did FR ZOT Frantzie?)
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To: TheRhinelander

All that electrical stuff burns out in the Phoenix heat.


16 posted on 05/10/2012 12:11:58 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: freedomlover

The 318 and the Dart never got along so well. The 318 is reliable enough (outlasts the car), but really needs premium, and doesn’t give the performance you’d expect. Mopars were ALWAYS ball-joint challenged, and the heavy 318 doesn’t help. Also, if you have rust around the torsion bars, you might get a nasty surprise.

The Slant-six 225s varied from year to year, probably depending on the one-barrel Holley feeding it. Let’s not forget the small 8 cylinder 273 that was an option before the 318 was used. The bigger engines (360, 383, 413, 440 etc) save that for the c-bodies and the cudas, Challengers and Chargers (unless you really ARE racing).


17 posted on 05/10/2012 12:13:47 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Real Darts: ■Seat six in base configuration ■Can be had stripped, no A/C no carpet ■Aren’t huge on horsepower...” Huh? I had to stop reading at that point. My brother bought a new Dodge Dart Swinger in 1969. 340 ‘six pack’. traction bars, the works, and it was ordered that way from the factory. Trust me, it was huge on HP! 140+ MPH and so fast out of the hole that it mashed you flat against the seat.


18 posted on 05/10/2012 12:14:44 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: BO Stinkss

In high school, a buddy of mine had a 63 or 64 Dodge Dart, with (get this) PUSH-BUTTON GEARS located in upper left corner of the dashboard.


19 posted on 05/10/2012 12:15:36 PM PDT by Remole
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To: BO Stinkss
I'd want the Al Bundy model.


20 posted on 05/10/2012 12:16:26 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TurboZamboni
I liked my old one in the 70's with the indestructable slant 6 motor. black vinyl top...sexy.

My Dad bought a '74 based on the experience my gf's dad had with his '73. The '73 was awsome and indestructible. Our '74 was so bad my Dad ditched it before 30k miles. I could post a book about the problems we had with that car.

Additionally, boy am I old!
21 posted on 05/10/2012 12:17:22 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Beagle8U
Huh? I had to stop reading at that point.

Obviously, you can take a solid Dart and put in a bigger engine. But the VAST majority of those cars were the base package, not the dressed up versions. The Dart your brother had was great, but most at the time were getting Chargers, Challengers, Cudas and Road Runners.

I would think of your brother's car as a Dart, with a much more powerful engine. That's great, but it is not what made the Dart what it was. It moved whole families, little ol' ladies and later on high school students. I do hope your brother beefed up the front end. By the way, my other Chryslers were a '65 Chrylser 300 (383 with four barrel carb) and an '89 Chrysler Fifth Avenue (318 V-8, the LAST V-8 auto Chrysler would make for more than a decade). So, I have nothing against big engines.
22 posted on 05/10/2012 12:20:46 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Abathar

What about its sister, the Plymouth Valiant?


23 posted on 05/10/2012 12:21:16 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Dr. Sivana

Back in 1968, the Iowa Highway Patrol bought a fleet of Chrysler Newport sedans set up for police duty. They were white four door sedans with the 440 motor. I was driving a ‘66 Chevy 396 rat motor and got to know the local patrolman (another story.)
I mentioned to the trooper than the 396 was fortunate to turn in 8 miles per gallon on leaded premium. He said the 440 was lucky to get 10...


24 posted on 05/10/2012 12:22:45 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: oyez

It’s a FIAT Linea with some new panels. The wheelbase is the same as, is the engine.


25 posted on 05/10/2012 12:22:59 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I had one of the stripped down Darts, a 67 ran good drove like a tank, wish I still had it


26 posted on 05/10/2012 12:23:07 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: freedomlover

How about the Hemi Dart.
Still terrorizing drag strips everywhere.
Wheels up.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 12:23:10 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: BO Stinkss

28 posted on 05/10/2012 12:24:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: newfreep

My parents had a Dodge Dart.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 12:24:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: TheRhinelander

It’s a FIAT...Fix It Again Tony

http://www.fiat.com/cgi-bin/pbrand.dll/FIAT_COM/showroom/showroom.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1280301523.1336677695@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadfgihildfdcefecejgdfkhdfjh.0&contentOID=1074105099


30 posted on 05/10/2012 12:27:22 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: BO Stinkss

D.I.N.O.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 12:31:41 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: expat2

Same thing, the Valiant was a cheap and affordable car that never lasted long, at least in Michigan winters with the salt spray but the drive train was dependable as hell.

We had the Dart, and also 2 Coronets. I always preferred the Coronets, had both with a 318, one automatic and one “three on the tree”, so simple and basic that even a major overhaul if needed was still simple to do.

The only thing I didn’t like was the torsion bars for the front suspension, I had two of them break at different times while driving and that isn’t fun, once it was at highway speeds.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 12:34:38 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: newfreep

Looks like all the other cars out there. Are there no original car designers?

I so miss the older designs. Even the 70s were more creative. All the cars on the road today look like this thing.

ugh.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 12:34:38 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: certrtwngnut

Yep, I saw the first ones at the 1968 NRHA Nationals in Indy. BAAAAD MF’s

What do you get if you cross a Valient with a Comet? A Vomit.


34 posted on 05/10/2012 12:34:38 PM PDT by technically right
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To: BO Stinkss

“denim material seat inserts”

Welcome to the 1971! http://www.arcticboy.com/Pages/arcticboysgremlin.html


35 posted on 05/10/2012 12:34:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (Put some ice on it Dick. La Raza is looking for a good lobbyist.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
You are correct, most of the Darts were basic transportation.

But the super musslecar Darts were available and you could factory order one with all the goodies, right down to the roll bar.

BTW It ate Cudas and Chargers for breakfast.

36 posted on 05/10/2012 12:35:17 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: technically right

What do you get if you cross a Valient with a Comet? A Vomit.

Well then what do you get if the Comet is green? The Exorcist model?


37 posted on 05/10/2012 12:37:24 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Dr. Sivana

As perhaps you are, I am an older model Mopar fan. I replaced a 273 with a 318 in a 64 Dart. However the body was just too far gone to justify any real restoration.

I do have a bare stock 64 Valiant/225 in storage for eventual resto. If you know someone that would like to buy a 70 Swinger/225 stock, no major lower body rust, I have one in a North Ga barn.

But IMHO the reason people love A-bodies (or show fondness) is not the car as much as the engine. The Slant 6 was so reliable you had to really work hard to kill it. If anything was weak it was the carbs but the damn things would still run pretty much no matter what you fed them.

In the eighties and even nineties you really could get a reliable Dart/Valiant for $500 esp if you knew anything about them. However my 64s will be fifty in a few years - thats gettin’ old! Also in Atlanta a car without A/C can only be used about half the year.


38 posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:23 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yeah, they didn’t even make it look much like the old Dart. They have done a nice job with the challenger though.


39 posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:49 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: BO Stinkss

They forgot one statistic in the comparison:

Resale of a Civic after 10 years and 200,000 miles = 30%± of MSRP

Resale of a Chrysler after 200,000 miles = $.25 / lb.


40 posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:06 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Beowulf9

No, Vomit is the model. That would be the Exorcist option.


41 posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:08 PM PDT by technically right
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To: Larry Lucido
I had this beautiful machine while going to college.
It started every time...

42 posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 762X51
D.I.N.O.

Best post of the lot...good job!

43 posted on 05/10/2012 12:40:49 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: technically right

lol!


44 posted on 05/10/2012 12:45:38 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: BikerJoe

I’m 62, remember all this stuff very well, and almost feel 70 after reading this thread, BJ. LOL.


45 posted on 05/10/2012 12:48:25 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: freedomlover
I've got a 51 yr. old.....VW two door truck.

Drove it everyday...back in the late 70's. Of course that was in SoCal...nice weather. No need for A/C really....

46 posted on 05/10/2012 12:48:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Beowulf9

“Looks like all the other cars out there. Are there no original car designers?”

The turd shape is the most aerodynamic/fuel effiecient design. That is why all cars look the same now.


47 posted on 05/10/2012 12:51:47 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: technically right

I guess you are a drag racer (or were)& are still a fan of the old stuff.
Google 60s funny cars & get a chill up your leg similar to what SissyChrissie gets when he sees the won.
But for a different reason of course.


48 posted on 05/10/2012 12:54:15 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: BO Stinkss

I had a ‘65, a ‘66, and a ‘67 Dodge Dart. Good memories!


49 posted on 05/10/2012 1:03:30 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I had a 67 Chevelle with a 396. Went thru the engine (bored, domed pistons, Crower cam, Holley 950 cfm double-pumper with manual secondaries, Hooker headers, etc) and it would get 14 mpg @ 65 mph. Once I went above 65 though, the secondaries opened up and I believe the mileage dropped to about 4 mpg! Loved that car... Oh, it also would turn high twelves in the quarter mile...


50 posted on 05/10/2012 1:11:32 PM PDT by rjones0604
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