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Obama won’t lose Latinos and Blacks because of gay marriage
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 5/10/12 | Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:46:09 PM PDT by SmithL

One key point conservatives made in today’s story about President Obama backing same sex marriage is that it would drive away conservative Latino and African-American voters. That’s what folks like conservative activist Gary Marx told us.

That possibility “is wildly unlikely,” said Gary Segura, professor of American Politics and Chicano Studies at Stanford University and a principal in the polling firm Latino Decisions.

While many Latinos are Catholic, a religion which does not condone same sex marriage, Segura said Latinos rarely let their religious beliefs steer their votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bama; blacks; homosexualagenda; immigration; latinos; pandering
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To: cuban leaf

African-Americans will come out as they did in 2008 to support their own. Latinos I do not know because Obama has done zilch regarding amnesty.


21 posted on 05/10/2012 12:56:34 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: cuban leaf
"Well, I don’t think blacks will vote in any numbers for romney, but I think this will have a HUGE impact on the black vote. They just won’t bother."

I'd add Hispanics to your comment and your spot on. GOTV will be suppressed, which is very bad for Barry.

22 posted on 05/10/2012 12:56:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The stench of Earth Pimp-age is permeating over the internet...)
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To: SmithL
It starts as simple brokerage politics. The price for welfare handouts, and looking the other way at the border is marriage for the gays. (In return, rich gays agree to pay the taxes for the handouts, etc. ad nauseum) Then cognitive dissonance takes over. The blacks and Latinos have to deal with the fact that they've sold out their religious beliefs. Now, they either have to consider themselves hypocritical sellouts — or they have to adjust their belief system to match their actions. At that point, they all become earnest believers in gay marriage. (The same process happened with abortion — a few decades ago, a sizable minority of leftists opposed abortion.)
23 posted on 05/10/2012 12:57:57 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: SmithL

Of course the San Francisco Gate is going to make this claim. San Francisco is the current biblical town of Sodom.


24 posted on 05/10/2012 1:00:47 PM PDT by skimask
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To: ILS21R
I’ll bet he loses some Latinos.

Bet you're right - he'll lose more - on top of those zimmered...

25 posted on 05/10/2012 1:01:14 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: SmithL

The GOP needs to run some “Obama is pro-gay marriage” ads in the hispanic precincts to pull them to our side before the whole story dies down. Gotta make hay while the sun shines because the polls will soon convince the press to give up on their “Obama is historic and courageous” meme.


26 posted on 05/10/2012 1:02:20 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: SmithL

Obama is so uniquely unqualified to be president -he wouldn’t be if he didn’t have great political instincts.

He would NOT have made this jump if it didn’t line his political pockets.


27 posted on 05/10/2012 1:05:36 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: SmithL

The black community is not gay (imho) and this alone jeopardizes zer0 (imho). The brothers and sisters have a problem (in more ways than one) if they support zer0 after this new revelation of support for gays. Expecting many to stay home, and not necessarily regarding this issue but rather the issue of the economy. Many in the black community believe they were betrayed by a slick talker (of course they are correct) and the enthusiasm grows slimmer as the economy tanks and zer0 opens his mouth for gays. It is good for the Nation the zer0 is out of the closet showing where his allegiance lays.


28 posted on 05/10/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: SmithL

Whistling past the graveyard, IMHO. His voters are already unenthusiastic. By all accounts they did this to raise campaign funds. So what kind of commercials are they going to buy with all theis money?

Seems like a poor trade-off.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 1:05:59 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: C19fan

—Obama has done zilch regarding amnesty.—

Maybe between now and November his position on it will “evolve” and he will say that, dog gone it, he’s all for it.

:-)


30 posted on 05/10/2012 1:07:38 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: C19fan

True, 21st century American politics is all about the bribery.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 1:09:57 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: SmithL

In the black community, there are certain men who are on the “d/l” (the down low) meaning they are married or in a seemingly hetero relationship and lead a secret gay life on the side. Those guys will come out in force to vote for Obama.


32 posted on 05/10/2012 1:10:34 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: Jewbacca

Exactly. He could likely sodomize and strangle a young black boy and STILL get over 90% of the black vote. It is just the way it is.


33 posted on 05/10/2012 1:11:26 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: C19fan; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; Impy; SeekAndFind; Clintonfatigued; RitaOK; fieldmarshaldj
>> While many Latinos are Catholic, a religion which does not condone same sex marriage, Segura said Latinos rarely let their religious beliefs steer their votes. <<

>> I totally agree with the article 100%. Latinos were a big forced behind defeating gay marriage at the ballot box in CA but they will turn around and vote for their pro-gay marriage <<

I agree as well, most of the Hispanics I know are socially liberal and publicly embrace gay pride parades, Obama's health care mandate, etc. I also know a handful of socially conservative Hispanics who usually vote Republican, but they are FAR outnumbered by the number of liberal Hispanics I know.

I get really tired of hearing the GOP talking point about how Hispanics are "pro-life, pro-traditional family, social conservatives who are natural Republicans". It's a nice soundbite, but looking at real life voters I know, it just isn't true. If anything, black voters are actually more socially conservative than Hispanic voters. That's ironic because blacks vote 90-95% RAT whereas Hispanics vote 60-70% RAT, but I can tell you I've met alot more blacks who are "pro-life and pro-traditional marriage" (but routinely vote for Obama and other far left Dems anyway) than I've met Hispanics who agree with me on those issues. Perhaps they are very "socially conservative" in their countries of origin in Latin America, but I knows I know who grew up in the Chicago area are very liberal.

And yes, Prop 8 in California is a perfect example. The media reacted in shock because a bunch of black Obama voters crossed over and supported the amendment to ban gay marriage, even as they voted for Obama on the same ballot. You didn't hear about a massive groundswell of support for Prop. 8 in the "Hispanic community", because there wasn't any. The nation's largest Spanish language newspaper even published an editorial AGAINST Prop. 8 and in favor of gay marriage.

Hispanic Catholics seem much more left-wing than their non-hispanic counterparts. Take away the "Hispanic Catholics" and Obama LOST the Catholic vote (this statistic is ignored by everyone, including freepers. Hmm) I wonder why "pro-life and pro-family" Catholic church officials aren't doing more to speak out to THAT segment of the "Catholic vote" and telling the "church going Hispanics" them their voting records conflict with their faith.

34 posted on 05/10/2012 1:12:01 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Jewbacca
I’ve never seen such blind allegence.

Follow the money.

35 posted on 05/10/2012 1:13:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: LeonardFMason

Obama could kill and dismember his own children in front of a live audience and they crowd would still cheer him on and the MSM would still spin that in Obama’s favor.


36 posted on 05/10/2012 1:17:15 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: SmithL

Black people aren’t necessarily against gay marriage. They just don’t like homosexuals, especially male homosexuals. Obama’s being a homosexual hasn’t bothered them, so this shouldn’t drive voters off the leftist plantation.


37 posted on 05/10/2012 1:17:48 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Nervous Tick

The punchline is too long.....


38 posted on 05/10/2012 1:17:52 PM PDT by ParadigmLost (Ayn Rand was right. - Atlas is going to shrug.)
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To: SmithL

WISHFUL THINKING by the left leaning SF Gate newspaper.


39 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:41 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Jewbacca

Exactly. No way this hurts him. They’ll follow him off any cliff at any time. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as stupid as those sheep.


40 posted on 05/10/2012 1:22:12 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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