Skip to comments.Ruby Ridge Survivor: 'Not the Legacy I Wanted to Leave My Son'
Posted on 05/12/2012 6:25:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Waco and Ruby Ridge are the reasons why the government doesn’t want us owning automatic weapons. They want to have the upper hand.
It seems that the majority of fed seiges against U.S. citizens end with fire. Makes sense. Its the best way to destroy the evidence of their screw-ups.
That shotgun was shorter only because the federal agent used a cloth tape to measure with and stretched it to the max bringing the shot gun one eighth of an inch short of the minimum lawful length. Randy was very careful and used a steel tape to insure the gun would be legal.
The feds then told Randy the court date was such and in the court had a different date that was earlier. When he did not show up they issued an arrest warrant.
The entire fiasco was a con job by the government.
I suspect, the majority of them, will never wake up.
When Ruby Ridge was actually playing out, there was a Freeper whose name I cannot recall, constantly defending Horiuchi and the Federales.
Hell we used to have plenty here denouncing Weaver and justifying Feds since Weaver wasn’t PC on blacks etc
Less of that here now but it aint gone....depends on the mod...how frank one can be
No doubt true.
Sadly, FR has a strong contingent of “Law enforcement can do NO wrong” goose-steppers.
No matter how egregious the abuse of citizens, law, and constitutional imperatives, scum LE will still be defended.
We can only hope he is severely tormented. Unceasingly.
That bloodthristy SOB has no soul. He would have made a good Death Camp commander or better still a special method squad leader for the SS.
She was holding an infant when she was murdered. Maybe the keen eyed sniper thought the child was a new type of weapon.
“The entire fiasco was a con job by the government. “
A fair summary of federal policy since the end of WWII
The military has had training to conduct house to house searches for a ‘weapons dealer’. Put a label on the target and even good people will find it difficult to know good from evil.
Love my country and it’s people
What happened at Ruby Ridge taught me to HATE the federal gub mint
I knew Lon Horiuchi and his father. This whole situation was extremely devastating to the father, his friends, family, associates and all the people who knew Lon Sr.
F#*k ‘em. It was devastating that they murdered a 14 yo boy and his mother. All to get publicity that “a new sheriff is in town.” Then the ATF did the same thing in Waco. Look at the Gunrunner operation and you can see that they’re mainly concerned with image and propaganda to achieve gun and population crowd control.
Power corrupts in proportion to its absoluteness.
I thought Weaver was cleared of all charges.
So, is your reference to a "new sheriff" to a real "new sheriff", or did you mean Bill Clinton?
Bill hadn't even been elected yet.
Not to be picky but we usually load Bill's sins on Bill and George's sins on George and so forth.
My response was strictly in reference to the aftermath of all of this. The Weaver girl is entitled to compose her life in the Lord if she wants. Frankly, I'm still devastated ~ because I have to live in this town with many of the same paranoid bunch of now retired federal agents and they could fly off the handle at any moment.
We are now at a point where the government bureaucracy/unions will NOT ALLOW the cuts that are needed. The TSA and the VIPER tactics are the final nail in the coffin. All we need is an "emergency" to arise and they can clamp down on dissenters, subversives, threats etc.... the soldiers/alphabet agencies/local PD/swat are going to do whatever they need to do to preserve their pensions/benefits. Bank on it.
The American "representative" experiment has been bastardized to the point of the libs/socialist/communist don't even make an effort to lie about their intentions.
Seriously... Marines KISSING on the mouth in public..
Bond holders told to F#$K off by the government as it steals GM money into union payoffs...
Congresswomen stating openly that they want to take over banking and corporations.
NO private property rights due to EPA and courts ruling on eminent domain
no representative voting due to the massive fraud and courts that allow the fraud
Disgusting creatures like Barney Frank actually in charge of government regulations and on and on.
With a whimper my FReeper friend.... with a f'ing whimper is how it's going down. If the entire east coast of the United States and California fell into the ocean... (well I'd miss the FR maybe someone will replace it) but we'd be better off as a country. I feel the same way if every muzzie on the planet disappeared... the world would be infinitely better.
I have 4 kids that look at the government and now LAUGH at the government. God, family are first and foremost... next Texas and the rest (shrug) could care less. I'm done with the parasites.
The current bureaucratic conglomerate in DC has used up all the "goodwill" it ever had with me. I'll obey the laws, pay my taxes, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's but as far as extra effort, pfft.. I'm going Galt.
The "fault" lies with Congress. Specifically the democrat quislings and the republicans with skeletons that all those FBI files contain. I figure my kids will be reading H. Von Dach and maybe survive the coming Detroitification of the United States.
It was a guy named _Jim