Posted on 05/13/2012 5:11:14 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Edited on 05/13/2012 7:48:19 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
When sermons of Obama
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If they are able to get the communist-Islamist coup they’re after I could foresee them allowing the sharia thing, if only because the Islamist way is more efficient at disposing of people than the communist plan of first attempting “re-education” and then figuring out how to exterminate the 15 million people they expect won’t ever bow to communism. With sharia it’s easy. You pull the non-Muslims out of their houses of worship, ask them if they will convert to Islam, and when they say “no” you shoot them. Very efficient. It accommodates the ecoterrorists nicely as well, because it could quickly get rid of 90% of the world’s population as the eco-freaks like Cass Sunstein have been saying needs to happen. They haven’t yet figured out that with the productive people dead they won’t have much wealth to redistribute...
If they are willing to take a slower route - that is, if the Islamists have more power than the ecoterrorists - then the Muslims will go through their attempts to convert people first - specifically by denying anybody the ability to buy and sell unless they bow to Islam, either by converting or by accepting a dhimmi tax.
If they figure out that the Christians and Jews, for instance, are the world’s producers, they may want to keep them alive and taxed so there WILL be something to redistribute. At least to tide things by until they’ve got everybody acclimated to taking orders from the communist government telling them what they will do and when - and whether or not they receive any compensation for doing the work...
People have no clue the kind of people, systems, and agendas we’re dealing with here. Evil is real, and it is here.
I don’t believe that Obama is a genuine Muslim, but I do believe that he supports the Muslim agenda and has put his lot in with the Islamists as well as with the communists. He knows who butters his bread and he is willing to be just “Muslim” enough to keep them with him. He knows what they want and he bows to those wishes. He is the sympathetic slave of Muslims, posing as a “Black liberation Christian” in order to deceive as many as he can.
I believe that is what he had over Hillary in the eyes of George Soros. Obama was willing to ally himself with the Islamists to destroy the US economy. Hillary wouldn’t mind destroying the US economy to bring about communism but she’s too much of a feminist to ally herself with the Islamists, and her husband has enough Baptist background to believe he’ll burn in Hell if he abandons Israel. Bill and Hillary have always been “communism light” in the eyes of George Soros, but Obama presented the opportunity to combine forces with the Islamists - which gave enough money to do his characteristic economic terrorism on a much larger scale, and gave him threatening power like never before.
Which he has used to take over all the systems designed to provide checks and balances, separation of powers, limits on government (both Constitutional and statutory), transparency, and the rule of law. The very stuff that has made us America rather than a third-world corruptocracy like the Kenya that he came out of. Or the Hawaii that he pretends to have come out of.
From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008
"Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...
Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.
There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."
Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
The exact opposite is the case and is why Rev. Wright will be a campaign issue.
I can’t believe that. The LDS are very aggressive about pedos and I simply can’t believe they’d introduce active homosexuals into that role of trust.
On the other hand, if someone is “homosexual”, but has forsaken that sin then that could be the case that they’d be involved in Scouting. I’d be surprised to find them as Scout Masters. If Scouting’s two-deep leadership is followed it really shouldn’t be a problem and being a known homosexual would put you in the spotlight moreso than in someone who’s kept it a secret.
More like a lame-suit, than a flame suit. Listen you’re well known for being anti-Mormon, which places everything you say in perspective. You’re lens is fault-finding, so you find fault.
My understanding is that the LDS don’t run Scouting exactly like it is run by other churches mainly due to the fact that they have their Scouting positions as “callings”. That means that their leadership are amateurs who function over a short time window. Most non-LDS troops that I know of have Scout Masters who’ve been doing it for decades.
Actually, your comment just reminded me of a great LDS program calle Eleven Year Old Scouts. It is like a crash course in Scouting that gets kids to First Class Scout in a focused period. They do that because their Scouting program is associated with their Priesthood which is given to young men when they turn 12.
Hannity discussing the “bribe” on his program tonight.
I had to go back and take a quick look at what I said on this thread...I was saying basically that the moment Romney mentions Rev Wright (he will not in my opinion) all Obama`s people have to do is mention the Mormon stuff, neutralized.
Mind you nothing to stop other folks from running good ads with Obama/Rev Wright, I am all for it.
Sarah Palin wanted to make Rev Wright a major issue in the campaign, but McCain would have none of it.
I say bring on Rev Wright, just that I do not see Romney personally mentioning the name Rev Wright, unless they first make his Mormonism a issue
You are right. A write in vote or a no vote is a vote for Obama. It drives me crazy that people are so short sighted. Some are always so. Every election cycle!
They don’t appear to be considering the future (judges, SCOTUS) at all!
OK, 1010RD, I found the reference. I'm prepared to believe this comment about Mitt Romney's views on gay troop leaders is wrong, but if so,it needs to be refuted.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2882378/posts?page=30#30
DannyTN wrote this:
“So let's see...Mitt Romney's first three actions after his competition drops out.
Names an openly gay man as his primary spokesman.
Critizes the Boy Scouts for not allowing gay troop leaders.
Claims he is against pro marriage, even though he personally implemented gay marraige in Mass as governor, doing more for gay marriage than Obama has done as president.
Look at the actions, not the words. Words get etch-a-sketched. Actions tell his values.”
One of Romney's defenders, icwhatudo, said this claim by DannyTN is false, but then quoted Romney saying this: “I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”
That comment is pretty bad — saying that Scouting, as a private organization, can do what it wants but that “all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation” is merely stating he doesn't want to force the group to take a stance which he wishes it would choose to take on its own.
This is not good coming from the Republican nominee for president.
Again, if this is false we need to get facts and refute the false allegations.
What an unfortunate, yet wholly expected reply.
Sorry to bust your rose colored view of the LDS, but what I say is true. Since you claim I’m only capable of finding fault, let’s take a look at my resume within LDS Scouting circles, shall we?
I’ve been involved as a Scout leader in LDS Scouting numerous times; 2 times as a Scoutmaster, once as an ASM, once as a Cub leader, once as Webelos leader and once as an 11 year old leader. I’ve been a leader in Scouting for over 22 years.
I’m Wood Badge trained, I’ve served as a District Training Chairman and District Trainer, I’m an Associate Lodge Advisor for the Order of the Arrow and a Scoutmaster. I’ve been a Chapter Advisor and an Advisor to the Vice Chief of Inductions (OA).
I’ve conducted over 30 training classes for SM’s/ASM’s and coordinated and planned dozens of others including Cub leaders in the past 4 years.
Wanna know the percentage of LDS leaders that attended training? (<30%)
Wanna know how many LDS units will permit the OA to conduct elections in our District (0)?
Wanna know how many LDS units make it mandatory that new leaders attend even the most basic leader training in our District? (0)
Wanna know how many LDS units take their units out on at least one outing a month? (<10%) Why? They won’t get trained. They like basketball mo’ better, no work involved for the “called” leader.
Wanna know anything?
I’ve staffed Wood Badge courses 3 times, 1 of which was an LDS only course.
Wanna guess how many registered out of an entire Council that has dozens of LDS “units”? 22
Wanna know how many of those were actually direct contact leaders and not there to just to take up some valuable slot because they were of the “privileged” class? (5)
It’s painfully clear that you aren’t capable of handling the truth with regards to the LDS Scouting program, you’re pro-LDS, why should I be surprised?
Sorry that you’re own bias towards those of us who are anti-mormonism prevents you from accepting or even seeing the truth for what it is. I even went and tried to help my own LDS son and his LDS Troop against my better judgement. I “negotiated” with the Bishopric for over 3 hours about what needed to be done and how. I worked with them for 18 months and in the end, they threw those boys under the bus because they didn’t find the “program” palatable.
The LDS failed my son and the other boys in his Troop. I had to transfer our son to a conventional Troop in order to ensure he could attain his goal of Eagle. He had to endure the scorn and ridicule of his fellow church members because he went after his dream. I have 2 other LDS families getting ready to join my Troop right now. But they’re “afraid”.
You even supported many of original assertions with your post, whether you realize it or not.
LDS Scouting is an absolute joke, a danger to the boys in their programs and one that is interminably undermined by their own delude sense of self-importance because they pad the books with ghost registrations and don’t insist on capable, trained and motivated leaders. It’s all a smoke screen.
In that spirit, see ya.
Longtime Obama pal Eric Whitaker keeps popping onto political scene
You’re mismeasuring. Scouting isn’t the main thrust of the youth program for the LDS. I’m impressed by your Scouting resume and dedication to Scouting. That said I’ve never met non-LDS Scouting leadership that didn’t praise the LDS and their dedication to Scouting.
Out of the more than a dozen LDS kids in Scouting I know nearly 3/4s have gotten or are on their way to getting an Eagle Scout. How many kids just drop out? My Catholic friends we really wanted their son to get Eagle were disappointed that he dropped out of Scouting altogether.
My personal experience is that much if not most of Scouting is parent driven. If it is important to the parents then the kids stay on it. Blaming or attacking the LDS for their Scouting program is a function of anti-Mormonism, not reality.
I’m sorry they “failed” your son, but you don’t seem like an objective source for facts about LDS Scouting.
Your pro-mormon bias is showing...again, and you keep including your favorite pejorative.
If, as you claim, Scouting isn’t the “main thrust”, what is it besides a meat grinder for young 11 year old Scouts? How many more families need to bury their children before the LDS decide it’s time to get serious and address their own failings instead of blaming the BSA for their problems?
That you are incapable of even showing how my credibility on the topic, besides my theological disagreement with mormonism should be in question, demonstrates your own pro-mormon bias and an inability to objectively evaluate the constant and persistent failures of the “activity arm” of the LDS. If the “President” states that something should be so, why isn’t it? Who are these men who dare to disobey their “prophet” so blatantly?
I clearly stated and gave evidence that the strawman you put forth was just that. Hollow to the core, yet, you won’t accept it.
The Stake Presidencies, the Bishoprics and the YM presidents all represent the “church”, the ones directly responsible for each ward’s scouting “activities”, ergo, they’re culpable.
Do yourself a favor, if you’re even remotely interested in the truth, google LDS scouting deaths due to leader’s negligence. You might just learn a thing or 2.
Then again, I don’t view you as an “objective” source either, that makes us even. I will dispel or refute your misinformation for as long as I need to. I will not stand by and watch a mormon apologist lay the blame for LDS failures at someone else’s feet.
Although, it is sanctioned after all, “lying for the lord”, it’s what good mormons are trained to do vs. protecting the kids in their charge.
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