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Ron Paul Supporters Boo Romney Son Off Stage at Ariz. GOP Convention
The Blaze ^ | May 13, 2012 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 05/13/2012 12:29:21 PM PDT by Pinkbell

Supporters of Texas Rep. Ron Paul booed one of Mitt Romney’s adult sons off the stage Saturday at the Arizona Republican Party convention as he tried to consolidate support for his father.

Josh Romney’s speech to state GOP members was cut short by jeers from Paul backers at Grand Canyon University in Phoenix, the Arizona Republic reported.

The state’s convention was to elect delegates for the national convention in August, where the former Massachusetts governor is expected to wrap up the nomination to take on President Barack Obama.

“We cannot afford four more years of President Obama,” said Josh Romney, the third of Mitt Romney’s five sons. “We need someone to step in there and turn things around.”

Ron Paul supporters at the Arizona GOP convention. (Image source: Arizona Republic)

But Josh had to stop repeatedly as people booed and yelled for Paul, who has continued campaigning in the Republican primary. All other challengers, including Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich, have dropped out of the race, and Romney has a commanding lead over Paul in the estimated delegate count.

But Paul supporters have begun flooding state conventions, recently winning control of delegate majorities in Nevada and Maine.

Josh Romney tried to pacify the crowd by taking a moment to recognize his father’s former rivals. It appeared to have little effect: Telling delegates to vote for his dad as he finished up, the crowd “exploded with competing boos and cheers, cutting him short.”

According to the Republic, some attendees said they heard Paul supporters chanting outside that Mitt Romney was “the white Obama.”

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To: Sirius Lee

so in America, in your opinion, it is fair game to not let the other person speak because you don’t agree with him. I don’t live in that America...YET. It is heading that way though with people like you. How about letting the stupid person talk and then you get up and show where he is wrong and express your better idea? Did that ever cross your mind? How stupid was it for a minority of men to stand up and say stupid things like , lets go to war with England and become a free nation. In those days, that was considered a stupid idea, until it happened.


151 posted on 05/13/2012 5:57:59 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: muawiyah
So, what is it gang, are the Paul supporters "obnoxious" because you want us to believe they are, or are they "obnoxious'?

Muawiyah, the Romney supporters are merely "obnoxious". But the Paul supporters are obnoxious!

152 posted on 05/13/2012 6:05:17 PM PDT by okie01
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To: ngat

So true; in fact, politics could be deadly! One of my ancestors fought a fellow in a duel(Al. Hamilton) in New Jersey a long time ago.. A fellow named Aaron Burr! Of course most, if not all of us know what happened w/that!


153 posted on 05/13/2012 6:06:29 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: ngat

So true; in fact, politics could be deadly! One of my ancestors fought a fellow in a duel(Al. Hamilton) in New Jersey a long time ago.. A fellow named Aaron Burr! Of course most, if not all of us know what happened w/that!


154 posted on 05/13/2012 6:06:46 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: Pinkbell

The drugs many Paul supporters use make them quite brazen.


155 posted on 05/13/2012 6:09:44 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: okie01
Well just darned. Now, what about those Mormons who were so polite?

Amazing the whole crowd would start acting like tokers eh.

156 posted on 05/13/2012 6:10:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Irish Eyes
The double entry was an error.

It will happen to you someday.

I will be there to point it out to everyone.

157 posted on 05/13/2012 6:17:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: All
Divine Providence
is the Key to the
Saving of America

The government keeps getting bigger, our chains keep get getting heavier, and our nation continues to decline, under both Democrat and Republican elites. The reason for this is that the people have lost the capacity to grasp the principle of Divine Providence and how that principle plays a central role in determining whether America rises, or falls.

We need to use this election cycle to begin the process of resurrecting in the people a new-found appreciation for the principle of Divine Providence. This is our only hope.

We can begin this process in this election cycle by coming to terms with this great truth, by studying it, and coming to understand it deeply, that we set America back substantially by allowing Romney to cast a deep inky black shadow of godlessness upon the once bright landscape of the Republican Party.

Please see:

VOTING FOR ROMNEY
IS TO VOTE FOR THE
DEATH OF AMERICA

The Republican elite has trained us to think inside a box they have created, which they enforce through the darkest side of peer pressure, which is public character assasination. And this box is like a little cage, inside of which they have mounted a circular treadmill, it is commonly referred to as a rodent exercise wheel, in which the little squirrel is free to run all day long, on their behalf, huffing and puffing, bleeding great drops of steaming sweat, thinking that miles and miles are covered in the direction of victory, when in fact the little squirrel is going worse than nowhere. The elites are carrying the cage downhill the whole time. Open the cage door, and climb out, and begin to allow real and valid outside-the-box ideas to populate the mind. To see is to believe.

Now is the time for all good men, and women, to stand up and shout, with one unified voice, "No more pet rodent exercise wheels for us!" We will choose to serve the Lord God, and finally, put our country back into an upward trajectory towards the realization of that Shining City on the Hill spoken of so eloquently by the late President Ronald Reagan.

Again, please see:

VOTING FOR ROMNEY
IS TO VOTE FOR THE
DEATH OF AMERICA


158 posted on 05/13/2012 6:20:32 PM PDT by GoldenEagles
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To: livius

I’d like to ask RP supporters one thing. Why was he seen hanging around the very left-wing Code Pink bunch? That there, creeps me out about Ron Paul! Don’t we have enough problems with this bunch? They are Obama’s buddies!


159 posted on 05/13/2012 6:24:58 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: muawiyah
The double entry was an error. It will happen to you someday.

I will be there to point it out to everyone.

It already has ..no offense.

But please tell me how Scottsdale Mormons differ from other Mormons, and I do live in Arizona.

160 posted on 05/13/2012 6:25:46 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: editor-surveyor
>> What kind of Mormons do “you” think live in Scottsdale? <<

. The majority kind, that have zero idea what Mormonism really is. Romney is the insider kind, truly dangerous.

I really think that is kinda funny.

I do live in Arizona, and there are many Mormons living here, all kinds, just like the rest of us.

161 posted on 05/13/2012 6:29:57 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes; hitchwolf
hitchwolf cited the Mormons at Scottsdale.

I responded to that ~ since it's pretty obvious Romney doesn't live there and isn't one of them.

162 posted on 05/13/2012 6:34:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Irish Eyes; editor-surveyor

Paulbots can not respond on their own logically. They depend on their programer. If the question asked has not been programed they do not know how to respond. I am sure the paulbot programers are working on this though.


163 posted on 05/13/2012 6:43:12 PM PDT by John D
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To: muawiyah

So how are Scottsdale, or Mesa Mormons different? I have only known the Mormons in AZ and the ones on missions who have worked hard to help my parents in MN. Every one of them have been great Americans, much different than the blame America first candidate.


164 posted on 05/13/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by John D
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

“Ronpaul cultists, classy as ever.”

It was ‘proxies with the moxie’ when it was Bishop Willard’s minions disrupting Gingrich events.


165 posted on 05/13/2012 6:52:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: muawiyah
Well just darned. Now, what about those Mormons who were so polite?

Don't know about you...but I've never met a Mormon who wasn't polite -- perfect gentlemen. And ladies.

166 posted on 05/13/2012 6:55:40 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Right Wing Assault

They may be using the same tactics but I know a few ron paul supporters and they are as anti-socialist as they come.


167 posted on 05/13/2012 6:58:49 PM PDT by myself6
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To: Tzimisce

“This is like a fist fight between Nazis and Communists - I’m not sure who to root for....”

Both of them. Like the war reports from the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, just sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

All this boo-hooing about lil’ Lord Fauntleroy’s lil’ Lord Fauntleroyling being jeered in mid lie makes me laugh. Willard and his rodents can dish it out but they can’t take it.


168 posted on 05/13/2012 6:59:39 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: John D
And that would be who?

BTW, since the primaries aren't over yet I'm more concerned with that sort of campaigning ~ and there was an awful lot of negative advertising (from you know who) and he didn't say a thing when the Virginia primary got screwed up on his behalf ~ very very very impolite man ~ just staying silent like that.

That sort of thing is what we'd expect of someone with NO CORE VALUES.

169 posted on 05/13/2012 7:00:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Psalm 144

It’s childish scumbags no matter who they support.


170 posted on 05/13/2012 7:13:40 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: muawiyah

“We usually have over 1.5 million people show up for a Presidential primary in Virginia. Romney got about 10% of that number.
His support is tissue paper thin around here ~ a handful of Bourbons at the top maybe, some old business buddies, mormons ~ ? ~, and otherwise he’s not popular at all.”

I have seen one Romney bumper sticker around here. One. This area was festooned with ‘W’ stickers for years, later McCain-Palin. After the election McCain was scraped off, but not Palin. Palin’s name slowly dropped off all of the cars only after she announced she would not be running. It took a long time but now they are all gone.

In the recent primary, pretty much the entire Boss Hogg GOP establishment here was stumping directly or by proxy for Romney. It has finally paid off, with one Romney sticker on a six year old economy car.


171 posted on 05/13/2012 7:14:30 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I am inclined to agree, but also delighted to see the Romney camp getting some of their own tactics thrown back in their teeth.


172 posted on 05/13/2012 7:17:20 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Psalm 144
Bwahahahahhaahahahaaaaahhhhhhaaa~ ROTFLMAO

I"m here in the DC suburbs in Northern Virginia and I have yet to see even one Romney sticker on anything. We saw an old Obama/Biden sticker yesterday on a car with a parking permit for a local highschool.

It's a race to the bottom ~ who will receive the fewest votes. We haven't had an election like this one before.

173 posted on 05/13/2012 7:27:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pinkbell

Pathetic from the Paul-tards. Paul should have the grace to publically condemn this. I’m not holding my breath.


174 posted on 05/13/2012 7:35:32 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sun; holdonnow

Ping


175 posted on 05/13/2012 7:42:12 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Paul supporters would like a conservative even less than Paul. They often seem to be beyond labels, but strangely fall into a leftist camp, at least by their actions. People have been putting up with him in previous years too. They are crazed zealots who support a MAN, not anything else. It is like a cult. They go after people personally in ways that are dangerous, and he is an evil man who has no problem with the likes of rabid racists and anti-Semites supporting him.


176 posted on 05/13/2012 7:45:31 PM PDT by PghBaldy (First MADD and "drunk" checkpoints, now TSA and "terrorist" checkpoints, what next?)
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To: fish hawk
so in America, in your opinion, it is fair game to not let the other person speak because you don’t agree with him.

In America, in historical fact, it has always been the case that politicians and their mouthpieces have been either cheered or booed. Sometimes riotously. A more recent example that is especially germane to this latest reality check would be the Goldwaterites who roundly booed Rockefeller off the stage in '64.

Although I wasn't alive at the time, were I there I would have sided with Goldwater and booed Rockefeller down. Northeastern liberals with an (R) after their names are not just useless - they are destructive to liberty - the knife in the back of Conservatism.

177 posted on 05/13/2012 7:47:27 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (When we cease to be good we'll cease to be great. Be for Goode.)
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To: Irish Eyes

You think its funny that Mormons are kept in the dark about what their money supports?

You have a strange sense of humor.
.


178 posted on 05/13/2012 7:47:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: John D

It matters not what the “Paulbots” can respond to, but what they can accomplish for all of us by derailing that turd Romney, and giving us a legitimate convention where a real American can be nominated.

You, not being a real American, would not understand that.

Give us a few more of your emotional strawmen, OK?
.


179 posted on 05/13/2012 7:51:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: muawiyah
"I think its a coverup"

Heh. I could not agree with you more.

What we have here is Romney supporters being obnoxious on the sly. And the Ron Paul crowd is honest and open about it!

Heh.

180 posted on 05/13/2012 8:03:43 PM PDT by txnuke (Drip Drip Drip goes the eligibility questions. Vet the candidates.)
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To: ngat

“Even the lack of decorum described in the article about the convention in Arizona is relatively mild. My great-great-great-great-great grandfather was throwing rotten eggs and tomatoes at the establishment hacks in town-hall meetings, and his sons were shooting bullets at Loyalists shortly thereafter. The Loyalists later became some of Canada’s finest citizens.”

Amen. Based upon the culture, Parties, the philosophies of the people in charge today we’d still be bowing down to the King of England. Today anyone that doesn’t agree and accept what the establishment line throws out is labeled an outcast. We’ve become a nation of partisan lackeys that will graciously accept cronyism and corruption depending on the Party.

I don’t like Romney; I don’t like Obama, I don’t like our perpetual state of fighting wars and defending others without receiving just and full compensation from those affluent countries. I didn’t like Bush bailing out the banks, and I don’t like Obama continuing. I suspect Romney will continue and we’ll continue with a Fed that supports the casino of Wall St by artificially keeping rates low by buying Treasuries instead of supporting conservative savers and allowing institutions to get a riskless return on interest bearing instruments.

Bailing out big business and overpaid CEOS that ruined their business and supporting illegals and the half the country has become the American way and along with our wars we’re broke.


181 posted on 05/13/2012 8:12:39 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Sirius Lee

“In America, in historical fact, it has always been the case that politicians and their mouthpieces have been either cheered or booed. Sometimes riotously. A more recent example that is especially germane to this latest reality check would be the Goldwaterites who roundly booed Rockefeller off the stage in ‘64.”

That was our heritage and culture. Now Obama and many Republicans too (it was bipartisan) have passed a law that would mean those who booed or acted “riotously” at such an event with secret service protection will be charged with felonies. I fear the good ole days where we could peacefully stand up to government are coming to an end, and both Parties are pushing it.


182 posted on 05/13/2012 8:23:51 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Right! Here is some more food for thought:

First Bachmann wins the Iowa Straw Poll. Then Romney wins the early count of the Iowa Caucuses, and within a shake of a lamb’s tail Santorum wins in the late count.

Now an FR article predicts that Ron Paul will have the majority of voting delegates from Iowa.

If Paul’s plan to cut 1 TRILLION dollars in year-to-year Federal spending, AND abolish 5 Federal Departments are the main reasons for Iowa Delegates to thaw out their opposition to Paul, then it might later be said that “as Iowa goes, so goes the Nation.”

BTW, “T” is for Texas, Tampa and those of us who are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!”

_____________

Here are some more reasons to vote for Ron Paul in the remaining Primary elections:

1.) It will drive the Liberal Agenda Media (LAM) and their Rove-style political consultants NUTS!

2.) It will deny statistical support to Romney.

3.) It could result in an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

4.) It would irritate the snot out of the GOP-E.

5.) It will put the GOP-E on notice that we think that their RINO Party has done NOTHING since we sent 89 TEA Party men and women to the US Congress in 2010.

6.) An OPEN Convention is our ONLY chance of a successful DUMP ROMNEY campaign.

7.) A superb, true “Dark Horse” Republican Nominee needs an OPEN Convention to replace Romney.

BTW, did I mention the sheer joy of watching the GOP-Endorsers publicly eating crow?

___________________

What the Liberal Agenda Media has never figured out, is that the 2012 National Election will be the last National Election where Campaign topics other than the National Debt will be debated again.

IOW, when the grim reaper of financial reality forces Federal Politicians in “both” parties to pay the US Bond owners before payments to our Entitlement recipients, it will terminate discussion on the main topics that we chatter about so far in 2012.

This National election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money.

Ron Paul is to old and to disliked as being different from what most voters picture a US President to look and sound like to win the Nomination.

HOWEVER, Ron Paul as an Anbody-but-Romney candidate in Tampa is our last, best chance to have an OPEN Convention in Tampa, and for that alone he deserves our Primary voter support.

Paul has soldiered on through this entire Primary Campaign. Let us help him establish a beachhead on the Shores of Tampa!

My Favorite Dark Horse was R Sc US Senator Jim DeMint, but I have been told by those in the know that Jim will not run for POTUS.

Fortunately, there are many other great potential nominees who would be far more acceptable to us than any of the Primary Candidates so far, but a “Dump Romney” action requires an OPEN Convention.

For those who object to Paul as a Nominee, then treat him as a tired old political soldier who will, with our help, win the Battle to achieve an OPEN Convention in Tampa.

THEN the delegates can win the War, and choose the best Nominee to solve our National Debt Problem.

Remember, this election is all about the money, your grandchildren’s descendant’s money - - - - .

What is the best way that you can use your Primary vote to help the financial future of YOUR descendants?


183 posted on 05/13/2012 9:03:47 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Sirius Lee
There is a big difference between some booing by idiots and booing and making a ruckus driving him off the stage. I guess it's okay to go just one little step farther now and throw pies at Ann Coulter like they did at the college she was to speak at. Lets see, one more small step would be to have the SEIU thugs slap him around a bit. I personally am civilized enough (and I'm an Indian) to not go if I don't like the person or if he is saying things I don't want to hear, leave and go home, but that's just me.
184 posted on 05/13/2012 9:34:23 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: WOSG

>“obnoxious”
>
>Yeah. So much for respecting 1st amendment rights. Isn’t funny how those who preach ‘tolerance’ are the most intolerant bunch?

What are you talking about? The 1st Amendment is binding only upon the government; that is to say that while you have the right to say what you will I also gave the right not to listen, or to tell you to shut up. (Not that doing so would be conducive to a dialog.)


185 posted on 05/13/2012 10:15:57 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Prohibition was repealed because it's unconstitutional.

Factually incorrect; prohibition was indeed Constitutional as it had an amendment authorizing it.
It failed because the it was literally unenforceable and it was unenforceable because a) the scope of control needed, and b) that the definitions were left undefined (i.e. congress could decide what the ABV was for an "intoxicating liquor")

Organized crime became powerful in the prohibition era precisely because of the unenforceable nature of prohibition.

People seeking relief from suffering are NOT CRIMINALS.

Agreed.

is Willie Nelson a hardened criminal? Brain dead lib, yes. Criminal no.
Back in 1776 you would have locked up the entire Continental Congress for herb!!!!
You got something against agriculture? Happiness? Freedom? Flower phobia? Founding Fathers? What gives YOU or ANYBODY the RIGHT to determine what someone ingests? Pluck the beam out of your own eye brother.

Indeed, with prohibition repealed the Constitutional support for the War on Drugs is nonexistent.

186 posted on 05/13/2012 10:28:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: John D

Yes, those points too.

Ron Paul is one of those Republicans, although Liber(al)tarian is the more accurate word, that Democrats and liberals would be okay with when it comes to foreign policy and many social issues, this is with the exception of Ron Paul’s opposition to Roe vs. Wade (sared doctrine in lib circles). They would struggle with him from an economic standpoint (although he is hypocritical considering the earmarks), and his racist Stormfront supporters would be a negative as well to people on both sides of the aisle.


187 posted on 05/13/2012 10:32:09 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Woo hoo! Another moderate candidate! Thanks GOP and voters!)
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To: apoliticalone
I fear the good ole days where we could peacefully stand up to government are coming to an end, and both Parties are pushing it.

Of course they are, neither party wants to be out of power, which they would be in an instant if they allowed those uppity 'people' to dissent.

188 posted on 05/13/2012 10:51:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Pinkbell

I suddenly realize who Paulbots remind me of: Jean-Marie LaPen’s little band of true believers in France.


189 posted on 05/14/2012 12:27:19 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: netmilsmom

The liar, backstabber, poser Romney may be all YOU
have because you are already on your KNEES to him.

Romney was CHOSEN by the GOPe, MSM, and DNC
because he is a PROVEN LOSER,
and has a terrible record that makes
complaints about the undocumented tyrant, simply moot.

Romney was chosen to given Obama a second term.


190 posted on 05/14/2012 3:36:38 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: txnuke
Definitely. The Mittbots can't fool us ~ we've seen them in vicious stealth mode.

Horrid little creatures. UGh.

191 posted on 05/14/2012 3:41:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Diogenesis

I said this...
“Unless a brokered convention comes through, he is all we’ve got. Unless you want BO.”

And you said this...
“The liar, backstabber, poser Romney may be all YOU
have because you are already on your KNEES to him.”

If you would like to discuss something, we can be rational without getting personal. I’m not on my knees to anyone but My Lord. However, I play chess and not checkers. The move after the convention is the Congress with a RINO. I wanted Sarah Palin. You can’t always get what you want.

If you can read through that list and still not vote in anyone who can beat the Marxist, you’re playing checkers.


192 posted on 05/14/2012 4:22:14 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: Pinkbell

A couple of the Romney boys should have been booed off the stage in Aiken, South Carolina in Jan 2008 ..

They were rude, obnoxious and mocking the other candidates...

The SC folk in attendance had much better manners then the upstart Romneys so they just muttered to themselves...

BTW Ron Paul and his supporters were polite and nice at that GOP Rally..

As were FRed’s people...

I was there for Duncan Hunter and we all got along fine...

Except for the Romneys who were “too good” to speak to anyone...

It would appear that the patience of the other campaigns towards the Romney camp has grown thin with the years...


193 posted on 05/14/2012 5:41:54 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Pinkbell
That's the rub isn't it. I do find his supporters basically label anyone who doesn't agree with him 100% as neocons. They love that label and they love the label game.
194 posted on 05/14/2012 9:44:26 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: ngat

Loyalists are part of what is wrong with Canada; however I think sometimes there effect is overstated, as only something like 30,000 actually left to go to Canada.


195 posted on 05/14/2012 9:47:15 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: saganite; John D; muawiyah; Republican Wildcat; Pinkbell; All
85 posted on Sun May 13 2012 17:27:19 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by John D: “I was just asking why so many FReepers are afraid of Mormons as a whole. The ones I knew were great conservatives.”

Mitt Romney is to Mormons what the Kennedys are to Roman Catholics.

The LDS needs to do something to clean up its own house before Romney singlehandedly wrecks the pro-family and conservative image they've spent several generations working to create.

8 posted on Sun May 13 2012 14:39:21 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by saganite: “That’s unfortunate. Not allowing someone to speak is a leftist tactic.”

130 posted on Sun May 13 2012 18:34:12 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Republican Wildcat: “This is not civilized conduct - shouting people down so they can’t be heard - identical conduct to the fringe left we’ve seen before.”

Correct.

I'm disturbed by the arguments some are making that shouting people down is an acceptable tactic of political discourse. Advocating rational debate rather than mob tactics is not merely being civil and polite; it is being conservative. We should be as aggressive as we possibly can in debate, but we need to debate wrong arguments, not shout them down.

Conservatives are not liberals. We believe in such things as absolute truth, original intent, logic, etc. While honest liberals share our concepts of truth and are sincerely and honestly wrong, many liberals simply do not believe in the same standards of truth that we do. As conservatives, we are supposed to be debating our opponents and proving them wrong.

If we aren't doing that, either 1) we don't have confidence in our own arguments or 2) we don't have confidence in our ability to defend our arguments.

If 1) is true, we ought to become liberals. If 2) is true, then we ought to shut up and let someone talk who knows what he's talking about.

Ron Paul supporters need to listen and follow 1) or 2).

196 posted on 05/14/2012 12:28:18 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: AAABEST

Just read this, John....I still have that bullhorn!


197 posted on 05/14/2012 1:26:37 PM PDT by Seeking the truth
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To: darrellmaurina
Romney and his Mittbots don't believe in the same standard of truth as the rest of us.

Else he'd VOLUNTARILY allowed his nominating petitions in Virginia be reviewed by designated party volunteers just like all the other nominating petitions.

He accepted the deal Mullins and Bolling worked out so his didn't get reviewed ~ that showed us the kind of man he really is.

We really need a different candidate ~ certainly the Mormons could come up with someone better than this ~ the guy oozes sleaze from every pore.

198 posted on 05/14/2012 2:22:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: netmilsmom
It is NOT about checkers.
It is about integrity and accountability and truth.


199 posted on 05/14/2012 2:39:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: netmilsmom
I said this... “Unless a brokered convention comes through, he is all we’ve got. Unless you want BO.”

Cut and Run and his band of surrender monkeys went all out to destroy Cain. Now they complain about being r stuck with Romney. Don't figure. If the surrender monkey had anything to offer Republicans he would have been able to win at least one primary, but he is no Republican. The only things he can win are push polls and caucuses where he can bus in his OWS crew and democrats who think Obama is too conservative and want someone even more liberal.
200 posted on 05/14/2012 4:08:30 PM PDT by John D
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