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On Marriage, ("First Gay President") Obama Tried to Limit Risk
ny times ^ | 5/13/2012 | By PETER BAKER and RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 05/13/2012 7:43:44 PM PDT by tobyhill

About two hours after declaring his support for same-sex marriage last week, President Obama gathered eight or so African-American ministers on a conference call to explain himself. He had struggled with the decision, he said, but had come to believe it was the right one.

The ministers, though, were not all as enthusiastic. A vocal few made it clear that the president’s stand on gay marriage might make it difficult for them to support his re-election.

“They were wrestling with their ability to get over his theological position,” said the Rev. Delman Coates, the pastor of Mt. Ennon Baptist Church in Clinton, Md., who was on the call.

In the end, Mr. Coates, who supports civil marriages for gay men and lesbians, said that most of the pastors, regardless of their views on this issue, agreed to “work aggressively” on behalf of the president’s campaign. But not everyone. “Gay marriage is contrary to their understanding of Scripture,” Mr. Coates said. “There are people who are really wrestling with this.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; moralabsolutes; moraldecay; obama; reelection; swrdswllwngsdshw

1 posted on 05/13/2012 7:43:52 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
. . . most of the pastors, regardless of their views on this issue, agreed to “work aggressively” on behalf of the president’s campaign.

Dog bites man.

2 posted on 05/13/2012 7:46:02 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

returning the favor of course


3 posted on 05/13/2012 7:49:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: tobyhill

Of course they will. Lifelong firmly held beliefs don’t really mean anything anyway, do they?
/s


4 posted on 05/13/2012 7:49:54 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today.)
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To: madprof98

Just being democRAT and in favor of infanticide eliminates you from Christiandom. So this is a moot point.


5 posted on 05/13/2012 7:49:54 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: tobyhill
Excuse me, this pi$$es me off:

"eight or so African-American ministers on a conference call to explain himself"

Doesn't he care what other light skinned ministers say?

6 posted on 05/13/2012 7:55:55 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: madprof98

Sodomites for Soetoro!


7 posted on 05/13/2012 7:59:56 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: AGreatPer
It's ok because the likes of Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson are going to expose their true hypocritical selves again.
8 posted on 05/13/2012 8:00:48 PM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

Who says the Black Churches don’t have a Pope?


9 posted on 05/13/2012 8:02:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: tobyhill
most of the pastors, regardless of their views on this issue, agreed to “work aggressively” on behalf of the president’s campaign

Once you get over his support for murdering black babies by the millions, this was as easy a spiritual decision as throwing a guy a reach around.

10 posted on 05/13/2012 8:08:05 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: tobyhill; madprof98; HiTech RedNeck; Past Your Eyes; bicyclerepair; AGreatPer; Mortrey; frogjerk
Black Pastor Likens Obama’s Gay Marriage Stance To al-Qaeda Attack (God bless him)
11 posted on 05/13/2012 8:09:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: tobyhill

Not surprising that these alleged pastors would sell their souls so cheaply .... 20 pieces of silver?


12 posted on 05/13/2012 8:09:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

They were running a special on their Betrayal Services, 33% off the regular Judas Rate.


13 posted on 05/13/2012 8:14:01 PM PDT by tobyhill (Conservatives are proud of themselves, Liberals lie about themselves)
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To: tobyhill

Looks like it is not just Jewish hotdog manufacturers who “answer to a higher power” These theologians know and accept it, including the Divine perspective on homosexuals.


14 posted on 05/13/2012 8:16:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Blood is thicker than water, as the old saying goes.


15 posted on 05/13/2012 8:33:15 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: tobyhill; GeronL

The chickens have come home to rooooooooooost!


16 posted on 05/13/2012 9:10:48 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: tobyhill

If they are OK with a gay marxist as president, why would they be shocked to find out he’s for gayism and marxism?


17 posted on 05/13/2012 11:38:35 PM PDT by marron
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To: tobyhill

This means nothing. All those churches will vote for him. He could ban Biblical passages against homosexuality from print, and they’d still vote for him, just as American Jews... overwhelmingly liberal lot they are... would vote for Obama even if he took a whiz on the wailing wall.


18 posted on 05/13/2012 11:52:03 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: tobyhill; All
REQUEST: Somebody kindly Freepmail me or open post (Freepmail preferred) the names and telephone numbers of each of those eight African American pastors stateside, and I will call EACH and every one of them from Asia individually over the next week, and passionately explain that they should drop any support of President Obama in 2012 -- even if they remain neutral if they cannot support the GOP and also oppose this from the pulpit -- over this hot issue, and accordingly for them to go with established Sacred Christian Scripture, decency and morality.

I will do it. I mean, I WILL DO IT. (And report the results back to FR, without naming them individually.)


19 posted on 05/14/2012 12:51:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The parallels of elected dictator Hugo Chavez & his incremental socialism--to Obama--is creepy!)
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To: tobyhill

Black enthusiasm to vote, which was already low at 48%, HAD to have taken a big hit last week. Anyone who thinks Blacks will show up in the numbers they did in 2008 has to provide data to back that up.


20 posted on 05/14/2012 3:57:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Not surprising that these alleged pastors would sell their souls so cheaply .... 20 pieces of silver?

I think they were each promised a 1995 Cadillac with a new paint job.

21 posted on 05/14/2012 4:02:35 AM PDT by BRL
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To: tobyhill; blam; Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; whitedog57; stephenjohnbanker; Chunga85; All
1st Gay President Cashes In

LOL !

22 posted on 05/15/2012 9:07:18 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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