Skip to comments.Records: Cate Edwards claimed she wasn’t a U.S. citizen to get out of jury duty
Posted on 05/14/2012 12:43:09 PM PDT by ColdOne
The daughter of disgraced former North Carolina Democratic Sen. John Edwards claimed she wasnt a U.S. citizen to get out of jury duty in early 2011, court records The Daily Caller obtained show.
According to those records, Cate Edwards was excused from jury duty on Jan. 7, 2011 in Orange County, North Carolina because she was considered a non-citizen of that county. Additionally, a comment included by a court clerks office staffer states that the reason for Cate Edwards excusal was that she was not a citizen of the United States of America.
James Stanford, the clerk of the Superior Court for Orange County, told The Daily Caller that such a claim of non-citizenship originates with the person whos actually been summoned for jury duty. That means, in this case, Cate Edwards made the claim herself.
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Are you seriously maintaining that she actually knows whether or not she is a citizen of the United States?
the family that lies together...
Would you want a member of the Edwards clan sitting on YOUR jury?
I’d take this as a win.
You are a citizen of the country and [optionally] a resident of a county. Counties do not grant citizenships, and the court clerk's office certainly should know the difference.
Additionally, a comment included by a court clerks office staffer states that the reason for Cate Edwards excusal was that she was not a citizen of the United States of America.
A remark "not a citizen" on or near a form that explicitly asks if you are a citizen can only mean the US citizenship.
Want to get out of jury duty? Really?
Just let it drop that you listen to Rush Limbaugh and you will be cut lose.
Rush was correct in that they only want stupid people who watch Oprah all day.
That's what I did with the last one I got. You might think they would send them by registered mail but they don't.
Before someone calls me unAmerican, I wasted 4 days of my life by answering 2 jury duty calls, sitting in a small room with a couple dozen other people watching a tv mounted on the wall and reading 5 year old time magazines and National Geographics.
When they get a better system, I'll reconsider.
I used to go. But same as you, waste a day and not even wind up on a jury, never even get in the court room for vour dire. Then they started timing them inconveniently, like jury day on a big deadline at work, so I wouldn’t go figuring I’d do the next one. Then I figured out they didn’t really seem to care, so I don’t either. The federal notice I just got last week was a return to the bad timing, this time right before my first vacation of the year, I bet if I actually went I’d get on a jury, and it would be a 3 week trial, bye bye vacation. So in the trash it went.
IMHO the juror list should be made up from the welfare roles not the voter roles. Make the folks living off the government dime do something for their dime. Shouldn’t be too tough to have a 3 days off 2 days on for the ones actually trying to improve their lives to still be able to look for a job. but of course that idea only works in a country that doesn’t have screwed up priorities.
check yer freepmail...
If it was an ambulance chasing lawyer using a class action lawsuit to soak a corporation based on phony, trumped up charges, he probably would have loved to have her on the jury.
Think the court could use the same jury as her father’s?
The jury could give two guilties for the price of one...
check your email!
All the county is concerned about is whether you reside there. That's the state standard for jury service.
Let me explain. I have sat in the jury room without being called several times, way back when I lived in Fulton County the first time. Your sitting there actually has some value to the county, as you are holding a place for the completely unpredictable number of folks who don't show up because they threw the summons in the trash (yeah, I'm looking at you).
It means that cases can get tried on schedule because they have enough jurors for the pool. That's important for the justice system, especially in very large counties with short-staffed courts, when you may have just a 2 week window for jury trials once a term, or in very small counties with a circuit riding judge they share with 3-4 other small counties, who may have just 2 weeks a year for jury trials. You may not give a hoot, but some day you might have a civil case (or God forfend get charged with something) and you might want to get your case heard sooner than 5-6 years from filing (not at all unusual in the City of Atlanta).
Plus, if all you have on a jury is welfare leeches who have no concept of (1) responsibility; (2) the value of a dollar; (3) citizenship, you are going to get total miscarriage of justice. And you could be in the crosshairs yourself.
Example: my sister and her husband had a girl crash a neighborhood picnic at their house, totally drunk. They asked her to leave, and she did, but later filed suit against them claiming that she had fallen off their deck and broken her nose and her arm. Total lie, but their homeowners insurance settled the case because it was going to go to a Fulton County (City of Atlanta) jury. Mostly made up of irresponsible urban denizens who would sock it to a homeowner mostly out of envy of somebody who actually had something, and also out of racial animosity (we're white, with a little less Cherokee than Elizabeth Warren, but not much less).
It is a notoriously dysfunctional court system. Yet one more reason that we moved the heck out of Fulton County before somebody decided to file a spurious claim against us.
I’m not breaking anything. If I ever actually got picked for a jury you might be right, but I don’t, I never even got close. Of the half dozen times I responded “correctly” to my jury notices I only ever got out of the wait room once, we walked to the court room, the bailiff met us and said the attorneys and judge were discussing something we’d have to wait outside, 4 minutes later bailiff came out and said we could go back to the room. It’s not my civic duty to stop being a productive tax paying member of society for a day to go sit on uncomfortable chairs in an overly lit room with an overly loud TV and not be on a jury.
The system is broke and it’s not worth wasting my time to observe the brokenness.
Actually I think my welfare jury system solves many problems. For one thing by making serving on juries mandatory for receiving government forces them to actually EARN their money. The ones that don’t want to earn their government money can go without, thus we get to shrink the welfare roles which saves money, the ones that actually do show up for jury duty aren’t going to be the stereotypical losers. And we get to stop having the jury system sap productivity by grabbing away people from their paying jobs. Instead of forcing corporations (many of which still pay their employees’ salaries when they’re on a jury) to support the court system it would actually let the government pay for itself. It turns jury duty from being a punishment for being willing to vote to a way for people to earn government assistance and be useful even if they don’t have a job.
As was explained to me, and take it or leave it as you prefer, is that the mere presence of a jury pool, meaning that a trial is about to actually commence as opposed to being knocked back to a later date, is the incentive for many cases to come to a last-minute out-of-court settlement. You never entered the courtroom, but your presence in the jury room helped the case get resolved.
I can buy that many people who were holding out become more likely to settle the closer to trial time things get, and “we’re going to be picking a jury today” is certainly very close. Which is all well and good, but not really a good reason for me to not at work being useful, there’s no reason to punish me because somebody should have settled a month ago. Which again spins back to my idea of use people on welfare, they weren’t going to do anything useful that day anyway.
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