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Army soldier brutally beaten in South Tampa
10 News ^
| May 14, 2012
| Grayson Kamm
Posted on 05/15/2012 6:31:30 AM PDT by eak3
Tampa, Florida -- Police want your help finding four men who teamed up to beat a young U.S. Army soldier in a South Tampa street.
It was an awful welcome to Tampa Bay for a young soldier. Police say the victim of a violent beating caught on camera is 24 years old and has lived in Tampa for less than a month.
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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; crime; holderspeople; thugs
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:31:39 AM PDT
by
eak3
To: eak3
“four men”
devout amish, no doubt.
To: eak3
Too bad this soldier wasn’t armed. Four less thugs breathing our air and another vindication for stand your ground...
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:34:30 AM PDT
by
TSgt
(The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
To: eak3
Anybody wanna bet the dude was “white” and the perps would have been Obama’s sons if he had any?
To: eak3
For Atlas Shrugged fans:
“Who is George Zimmerman?”
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:36:05 AM PDT
by
Azeem
(There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
To: eak3
Have the authorities brought the soldier up on charges yet for assaulting the thug’s fists?
The FBI is probably waiting to file civil rights charges against him also.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:37:24 AM PDT
by
headstamp 2
(Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
To: rightwingextremist1776
Based on the area where he lived, I would guess he’s likely Hispanic or lower-class white.
I personally wouldn’t be caught dead in that part of Tampa.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT
by
rarestia
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
To: chuck_the_tv_out
Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT
by
TSgt
(The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
To: TSgt
And four murder charges brought on by the pressure of Jackson/Sharpton marches.
And hate crime charges brought by Holder.
And sympathy from Bernie Goetz.
9
posted on
05/15/2012 6:39:09 AM PDT
by
bolobaby
To: eak3
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:39:35 AM PDT
by
Doogle
(((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
To: headstamp 2
I would have no doubts that both would not happen in this backwards dying society.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:40:17 AM PDT
by
wally_bert
(It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
To: TSgt
Another “battle” in the one sided race war.
(See Thomas Sowell article of yesterday)
12
posted on
05/15/2012 6:40:17 AM PDT
by
MrB
(The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
To: rightwingextremist1776
from the article:
A group of three young men is seen walking ahead of the soldier. Police say one of the men in the group doubled back and asked to soldier to borrow a dollar. When the soldier reached for his wallet, the first punch flew.
The first, tremendous sucker punch laid the victim onto the ground. The other two men joined in, punching and kicking the soldier.
.....
The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.
13
posted on
05/15/2012 6:40:22 AM PDT
by
kevcol
To: eak3
I think they need to be “apprehended” and “questioned” by some Marine MPs.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:40:38 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
To: eak3
4:1 tells the racial demographics story......
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:40:41 AM PDT
by
EyeGuy
(Non-Holder person.)
To: chuck_the_tv_out
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:43:06 AM PDT
by
kevcol
To: rightwingextremist1776
The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build."There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start to think about robbery and then look around and see it's somebody white and feel relieved. How humiliating." THE REV. JESSE JACKSON, NOV. 27, 1993
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:43:06 AM PDT
by
DTogo
(High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
To: eak3
To: TSgt
Hmmm...one was “possibly Hispanic”? Maybe black Hispanic? Or was he just “bright”? I seriously doubt that there would be 3 blacks and one Hispanic. It just doesn’t usually work that way with a group.
To: eak3
Upon capture these four should be put down like any other rabid animal!!!
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:46:06 AM PDT
by
varon
(The Patriots stand watch!)
To: Clara Lou
Hmmm...one was possibly Hispanic? Maybe black Hispanic? Or was he just bright? I seriously doubt that there would be 3 blacks and one Hispanic. It just doesnt usually work that way with a group.
Thugs only had 3 in their group and needed one more to bump up the odds, so they hired an illegal to do the work other black thugs were too lazy to perform.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:48:26 AM PDT
by
kevcol
To: eak3
Three blacks and one possible Hispanic (or light skinned black) - I'm going with the latter. I hope these cretins are caught and if the soldier is white (couldn't tell from the video) I demand this be treated as a hate crime.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:49:21 AM PDT
by
liberalh8ter
(If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
To: All
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:52:49 AM PDT
by
tomkat
(stop that !)
To: eak3
Article: “The victim was not able to tell police much more: they’re all in their late teens to early 20’s. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.”
There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody White and feel relieved.
— Jesse Jackson
This is where “stand your ground” laws don’t mean sxit because they require one to defend against a threat and an action. If someone asks to borrow a dollar even at 3AM, that is not a threat until he sucker punches you, and then it’s too late. If you pull out a firearm in advance they will charge. Open carry might be a better option, but that might get you shot as an ambush.
When your car breaks down at 3A in a city you’re pretty much screwed. We’ve allowed this country to be turned into a third world nation with our immigration policies. Pat Buchanan is right on this.
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posted on
05/15/2012 6:53:32 AM PDT
by
apoliticalone
(Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
To: rarestia
I personally wouldnt be caught dead in that part of Tampa
South of Gandy, better have one handy...
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:21:25 AM PDT
by
WackySam
(Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
To: eak3
Police say one of the men in the group doubled back and asked to soldier to borrow a dollar. Cabey and crew wanted to "BORROW" five dollars from Goetz.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:22:06 AM PDT
by
Roccus
To: eak3
At least they gave some descriptions beyond "young men"
'The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.'
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:31:47 AM PDT
by
commonguymd
(Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
To: Roccus
If Obama had a son who needed to borrow a dollar, he’d look just like the group of men who assaulted and robbed the soldier.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:33:26 AM PDT
by
blackdog
(There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
To: chuck_the_tv_out
They asked themselves “what would Trayvon do?”
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:35:55 AM PDT
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: rightwingextremist1776
Three of the perps were black and the fourth was possibly hispanic. Probably looked like he could have been Obama’s son.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:37:26 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: eak3
Looks like we all have to become a Paul Kersey in this new patern of US Society? Are we better off today than we were 60 years ago? Where did we go wrong and can we go back and start over? I don,t see it happening.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:39:09 AM PDT
by
Bringbackthedraft
( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
To: cunning_fish
Obama sons?Didn't they know the soldier was fighting for Obama?
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:40:22 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
To: varon
—Upon capture these four should be put down like any other rabid animal!!!—
That is pretty much how I see it. I drove a bus for my church in the 890’s and 90’s and I saw some of the older kids as wild animals - They’d kill you for a dollar. I apply Ecclesiastes to them. Some are “natural man” only, and very dangerous to both themself and society. Barring a miracle from God, nothing - and I mean NOTHING - good will come from or of them.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:41:20 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: eak3
Young black men, at night, wearing hoodies.
Noted.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:45:05 AM PDT
by
Theo
(May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
To: apoliticalone
This may be a neighborhood where OPEN carry rules the day. Maybe a Remington 500 8 shot. Is this the "alternate reality" we have become?
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:45:59 AM PDT
by
cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
To: Bringbackthedraft
Looks like we all have to become a Paul Kersey in this new patern of US Society? I recommend the movie "Death Sentence" ... Paul Kersey on steriods (this is *not* your daddy's Kevin Bacon!)
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:51:16 AM PDT
by
The Duke
To: Bringbackthedraft
This country has been paying reparations (blackmail, actually) for
sixty years.
Enough !
If that means some kinda war, so be it.
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posted on
05/15/2012 7:51:44 AM PDT
by
tomkat
(stop that !)
To: eak3
Below are the links to the articles regarding all of the black community and national leaders who have come out against Al Sharpton and other calls for violent revenge for Trayvon:
/s
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posted on
05/15/2012 8:05:35 AM PDT
by
Sharkfish
( "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
To: MrB
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posted on
05/15/2012 8:07:53 AM PDT
by
Texas Gal
(Yay shariah. It's as great as diarrhea.)
To: eak3
Once again, in a situation like this, I would much prefer an appropriate knife, as the closing distance was too narrow for effective, unprepared gun use.
The soldier had bad luck (a car breakdown in a bad neighborhood), at a bad time of day (3am). But there are all sorts of good things in a car that would make great weapons. If nothing else, take the tire iron with you.
He knows no one there, so he has no reason to approach somebody, or for somebody to approach him. Unless he had been drinking, that alone should have been a tip off.
Then he allowed the stranger to close to within punching or kicking distance. If they try, then back step. This sends a strong signal of “back off”, so if they approach you again, they are definitely hostile.
By this time, situationally aware, I would have had my knife in hand, Hwa Rang Do style, with the blade concealed behind my forearm. He throws a punch, I back step then open a large artery in his arm.
A tire iron is even easier, but you know he is stupid if he tries to punch somebody with one in their hand.
To: eak3
Hmmm wonder if tall white pointy hats would be a good business to get into?
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posted on
05/15/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT
by
bikerman
(you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Once again, in a situation like this, I would much prefer an appropriate knife, as the closing distance was too narrow for effective, unprepared gun use. He was a soldier who was situationally unaware that he was in a combat zone, and the group ahead of him were probable hostiles.
In such a situation, the best thing to do is to increase distance (slow down and let them get further ahead, or cross the street). If they change course to intercept, then they have confirmed hostile intent, and you should be prepared to draw rather than allow them to come into contact distance, plus "check your six" for additional hostiles.
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posted on
05/15/2012 8:55:45 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(If I cant be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
To: rightwingextremist1776
Statistically this would more likely be black-on-black crime. That is the most common thing.
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posted on
05/15/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT
by
steve8714
(Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
To: headstamp 2
This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:33:36 AM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
To: headstamp 2
This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:33:38 AM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT
by
PLD
(It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
To: eak3
It is time to aggressively go after these apes. Start with special forces planting “bait” subjects at 3am and take out
anyone with ill intent. Repeat until these feral animals are either all dead or afraid of their own shadows.
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:36:48 AM PDT
by
soycd
To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
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posted on
05/15/2012 9:44:13 AM PDT
by
PLD
(It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
To: PapaBear3625
> ...plus “check your six” for additional hostiles.
Minor note: “back to the wall first”, since it limits the hostiles from 360 degrees to first 270 degrees then to 180 degrees. Once you know your back is clear you can go dynamic again. Shouldn’t take long.
Then, if you are armed, if it is a group, a deep doorway is good to further narrow their approach, and limit any large long weapons, like baseball bats.
To: eak3
Looks like they’re wearing hoodies.
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posted on
05/15/2012 10:00:35 AM PDT
by
SWAMPSNIPER
(The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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