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Army soldier brutally beaten in South Tampa
10 News ^ | May 14, 2012 | Grayson Kamm

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:31:30 AM PDT by eak3

Tampa, Florida -- Police want your help finding four men who teamed up to beat a young U.S. Army soldier in a South Tampa street.

It was an awful welcome to Tampa Bay for a young soldier. Police say the victim of a violent beating caught on camera is 24 years old and has lived in Tampa for less than a month.

(Excerpt) Read more at wtsp.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; crime; holderspeople; thugs
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1 posted on 05/15/2012 6:31:39 AM PDT by eak3
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To: eak3

“four men”

devout amish, no doubt.


2 posted on 05/15/2012 6:34:14 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: eak3

Too bad this soldier wasn’t armed. Four less thugs breathing our air and another vindication for stand your ground...


3 posted on 05/15/2012 6:34:30 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: eak3
Anybody wanna bet the dude was “white” and the perps would have been Obama’s sons if he had any?
4 posted on 05/15/2012 6:35:43 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: eak3

For Atlas Shrugged fans:

“Who is George Zimmerman?”


5 posted on 05/15/2012 6:36:05 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: eak3

Have the authorities brought the soldier up on charges yet for assaulting the thug’s fists?

The FBI is probably waiting to file civil rights charges against him also.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 6:37:24 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Based on the area where he lived, I would guess he’s likely Hispanic or lower-class white.

I personally wouldn’t be caught dead in that part of Tampa.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 6:37:40 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.
8 posted on 05/15/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: TSgt

And four murder charges brought on by the pressure of Jackson/Sharpton marches.

And hate crime charges brought by Holder.

And sympathy from Bernie Goetz.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 6:39:09 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: eak3

******* jackals


10 posted on 05/15/2012 6:39:35 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: headstamp 2

I would have no doubts that both would not happen in this backwards dying society.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:17 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: TSgt

Another “battle” in the one sided race war.
(See Thomas Sowell article of yesterday)


12 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
from the article:

A group of three young men is seen walking ahead of the soldier. Police say one of the men in the group doubled back and asked to soldier to borrow a dollar. When the soldier reached for his wallet, the first punch flew.

The first, tremendous sucker punch laid the victim onto the ground. The other two men joined in, punching and kicking the soldier.

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The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.

13 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:22 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: eak3

I think they need to be “apprehended” and “questioned” by some Marine MPs.


14 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:38 AM PDT by ZULU (Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam.)
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To: eak3

4:1 tells the racial demographics story......


15 posted on 05/15/2012 6:40:41 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

“Dis fo Trayvon!”


16 posted on 05/15/2012 6:43:06 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: rightwingextremist1776
The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.

"There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start to think about robbery and then look around and see it's somebody white and feel relieved. How humiliating." THE REV. JESSE JACKSON, NOV. 27, 1993

17 posted on 05/15/2012 6:43:06 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: eak3

Obama sons?


18 posted on 05/15/2012 6:43:32 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: TSgt

Hmmm...one was “possibly Hispanic”? Maybe black Hispanic? Or was he just “bright”? I seriously doubt that there would be 3 blacks and one Hispanic. It just doesn’t usually work that way with a group.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 6:45:28 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: eak3

Upon capture these four should be put down like any other rabid animal!!!


20 posted on 05/15/2012 6:46:06 AM PDT by varon (The Patriots stand watch!)
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To: Clara Lou
Hmmm...one was “possibly Hispanic”? Maybe black Hispanic? Or was he just “bright”? I seriously doubt that there would be 3 blacks and one Hispanic. It just doesn’t usually work that way with a group.

Thugs only had 3 in their group and needed one more to bump up the odds, so they hired an illegal to do the work other black thugs were too lazy to perform.
21 posted on 05/15/2012 6:48:26 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: eak3
Three blacks and one possible Hispanic (or light skinned black) - I'm going with the latter. I hope these cretins are caught and if the soldier is white (couldn't tell from the video) I demand this be treated as a hate crime.
22 posted on 05/15/2012 6:49:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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23 posted on 05/15/2012 6:52:49 AM PDT by tomkat (stop that !)
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To: eak3

Article: “The victim was not able to tell police much more: they’re all in their late teens to early 20’s. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.”

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody White and feel relieved.”
— Jesse Jackson

This is where “stand your ground” laws don’t mean sxit because they require one to defend against a threat and an action. If someone asks to borrow a dollar even at 3AM, that is not a threat until he sucker punches you, and then it’s too late. If you pull out a firearm in advance they will charge. Open carry might be a better option, but that might get you shot as an ambush.

When your car breaks down at 3A in a city you’re pretty much screwed. We’ve allowed this country to be turned into a third world nation with our immigration policies. Pat Buchanan is right on this.


24 posted on 05/15/2012 6:53:32 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: rarestia
I personally wouldn’t be caught dead in that part of Tampa

South of Gandy, better have one handy...
25 posted on 05/15/2012 7:21:25 AM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: eak3
Police say one of the men in the group doubled back and asked to soldier to borrow a dollar.

Cabey and crew wanted to "BORROW" five dollars from Goetz.

26 posted on 05/15/2012 7:22:06 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: eak3
At least they gave some descriptions beyond "young men"

'The victim was not able to tell police much more: they're all in their late teens to early 20's. Two were black men with an average build, police said. One attacker was possibly Hispanic, also with an average build. The fourth man was also black, but with a heavier build.'

27 posted on 05/15/2012 7:31:47 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Roccus

If Obama had a son who needed to borrow a dollar, he’d look just like the group of men who assaulted and robbed the soldier.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 7:33:26 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

They asked themselves “what would Trayvon do?”


29 posted on 05/15/2012 7:35:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Three of the perps were black and the fourth was possibly hispanic. Probably looked like he could have been Obama’s son.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 7:37:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: eak3

Looks like we all have to become a Paul Kersey in this new patern of US Society? Are we better off today than we were 60 years ago? Where did we go wrong and can we go back and start over? I don,t see it happening.


31 posted on 05/15/2012 7:39:09 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: cunning_fish
Obama sons?

Didn't they know the soldier was fighting for Obama?

32 posted on 05/15/2012 7:40:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: varon

—Upon capture these four should be put down like any other rabid animal!!!—

That is pretty much how I see it. I drove a bus for my church in the 890’s and 90’s and I saw some of the older kids as wild animals - They’d kill you for a dollar. I apply Ecclesiastes to them. Some are “natural man” only, and very dangerous to both themself and society. Barring a miracle from God, nothing - and I mean NOTHING - good will come from or of them.


33 posted on 05/15/2012 7:41:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: eak3

Young black men, at night, wearing hoodies.

Noted.


34 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:05 AM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: apoliticalone
This may be a neighborhood where OPEN carry rules the day. Maybe a Remington 500 8 shot. Is this the "alternate reality" we have become?


35 posted on 05/15/2012 7:45:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Looks like we all have to become a Paul Kersey in this new patern of US Society?

I recommend the movie "Death Sentence" ... Paul Kersey on steriods (this is *not* your daddy's Kevin Bacon!)

36 posted on 05/15/2012 7:51:16 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Bringbackthedraft
This country has been paying reparations (blackmail, actually) for sixty years.

Enough !

If that means some kinda war, so be it.

37 posted on 05/15/2012 7:51:44 AM PDT by tomkat (stop that !)
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To: eak3

Below are the links to the articles regarding all of the black community and national leaders who have come out against Al Sharpton and other calls for violent revenge for Trayvon:

/s


38 posted on 05/15/2012 8:05:35 AM PDT by Sharkfish ( "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: MrB

http://www.google.com/gwt/n?u=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/05/15/a_censored_race_war_114150.html


39 posted on 05/15/2012 8:07:53 AM PDT by Texas Gal (Yay shariah. It's as great as diarrhea.)
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To: eak3

Once again, in a situation like this, I would much prefer an appropriate knife, as the closing distance was too narrow for effective, unprepared gun use.

The soldier had bad luck (a car breakdown in a bad neighborhood), at a bad time of day (3am). But there are all sorts of good things in a car that would make great weapons. If nothing else, take the tire iron with you.

He knows no one there, so he has no reason to approach somebody, or for somebody to approach him. Unless he had been drinking, that alone should have been a tip off.

Then he allowed the stranger to close to within punching or kicking distance. If they try, then back step. This sends a strong signal of “back off”, so if they approach you again, they are definitely hostile.

By this time, situationally aware, I would have had my knife in hand, Hwa Rang Do style, with the blade concealed behind my forearm. He throws a punch, I back step then open a large artery in his arm.

A tire iron is even easier, but you know he is stupid if he tries to punch somebody with one in their hand.


40 posted on 05/15/2012 8:10:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: eak3
Hmmm wonder if tall white pointy hats would be a good business to get into?
41 posted on 05/15/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Once again, in a situation like this, I would much prefer an appropriate knife, as the closing distance was too narrow for effective, unprepared gun use.

He was a soldier who was situationally unaware that he was in a combat zone, and the group ahead of him were probable hostiles.

In such a situation, the best thing to do is to increase distance (slow down and let them get further ahead, or cross the street). If they change course to intercept, then they have confirmed hostile intent, and you should be prepared to draw rather than allow them to come into contact distance, plus "check your six" for additional hostiles.

42 posted on 05/15/2012 8:55:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Statistically this would more likely be black-on-black crime. That is the most common thing.


43 posted on 05/15/2012 8:57:00 AM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
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To: headstamp 2

This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist


44 posted on 05/15/2012 9:33:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: headstamp 2

This is exactly the kind of crap that has made me lose all faith I’n our
Federal gub mint and become a racist


45 posted on 05/15/2012 9:33:38 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
46 posted on 05/15/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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To: eak3

It is time to aggressively go after these apes. Start with special forces planting “bait” subjects at 3am and take out
anyone with ill intent. Repeat until these feral animals are either all dead or afraid of their own shadows.


47 posted on 05/15/2012 9:36:48 AM PDT by soycd
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Three blacks one Mexican was the thugs that beat this hero up..I'll bet the bums were on welfare and have about fifty kids among them..When will people get tired of this and retaliate against these chicken trash..
48 posted on 05/15/2012 9:44:13 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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To: PapaBear3625

> ...plus “check your six” for additional hostiles.

Minor note: “back to the wall first”, since it limits the hostiles from 360 degrees to first 270 degrees then to 180 degrees. Once you know your back is clear you can go dynamic again. Shouldn’t take long.

Then, if you are armed, if it is a group, a deep doorway is good to further narrow their approach, and limit any large long weapons, like baseball bats.


49 posted on 05/15/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: eak3

Looks like they’re wearing hoodies.


50 posted on 05/15/2012 10:00:35 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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