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GOP needs Marco Rubio to ward off extinction
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 5/15/2012 | Kingsley Guy

Posted on 05/15/2012 6:48:25 AM PDT by SmileRight

The Republican Party faces a threat to its existence. It’s not an ideological threat, but a demographic and mathematical one. Unless the GOP acts to change the math by broadening its appeal to minorities, it will cease being a major force in American politics.

If you have any doubt about this, look at the numbers:

In 1960, white Americans made up 94 percent of the electorate. By 2010, the figure had dropped to 75 percent.

Among African-Americans, more than 90 percent vote Democratic, and in the 2008 presidential race, 96 percent chose President Obama. For Asian-Americans, a clear majority consistently votes Democratic. In the last presidential election, 56 percent voted for Obama.

Among Hispanic-Americans, the fastest growing segment of the electorate, the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is about 2-to-1. Eight years ago, four out of 10 Hispanics voted for ...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demographics; diversity; gop; hispanics; hispanicvote; immigration; marcorubio; trends
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To: dfwgator
McDonnell's term-limited job ends in January of 2014.

Virginia is on the Red Blue fence, his candidacy would secure Virginia in the Red column.

George Allen is in a close Senate race in Virginia. McDonnell coattails would swing this close race to Allen.

As sitting Virginia Governor, he will have a huge impact on organization in his state.

With McDonnell on the ticket, Virginia will look like Romney's first Southern state.

He's Pro Life, pro off shore drilling, pro gun, pro charter schools, pro jobs, pro Christian beliefs (has made several statements that could be considered anti gay), Pro traditional marriage.

1. Robert Francis “Bob” McDonnell: b. 15 Jun 1954 Philadelphia, PA; attorney-general of VA 2006-2009; Governor of Virginia 2010-

2. Lt. Col. John F. McDonnell: b. 15 Apr 1916 Peabody, Essex Co., MA; d. 2 Nov 2010 Fairfax Co., VA; bur. Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, VA; m. 8 Apr 1951 Bolling AFB, Washington, DC

3. Emma (B.) Meta Meiller: b. 24 Jul 1928 Falls Co., TX [TX birth index: parents Rev. John Meiller and Bertha Dolfus]; d. 25 Sep 1994 (last residence Alexandria, Fairfax Co., VA); bur. Arlington National Cemetery [SSN 455-34-8270, issued TX bef. 1951]

51 posted on 05/15/2012 9:27:20 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SmileRight

Rubio is for amnesty so to hell with him


52 posted on 05/15/2012 9:28:10 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: BelegStrongbow
The question actually resolves to whether the latest wave of immigrants plans on becoming integrated into the existing population

They don't assimilate, they Balkanize.

Gay Adoption, Romney Care and now Open Borders, that makes the ticket broad based for sure. </sarcasm>

53 posted on 05/15/2012 11:28:08 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period. We have more than enough scum to power the cars.)
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To: kabar

What exactly is his immigration plan?

1 - It’s not finished yet
2 - Close the Border
3 - Make INS more efficient (process faster)
4 - Provide mechanism for students to stay under student visa’s, but they’d still go to back of line for legal imigration & citizenship.
There’s more, but I don’t have interview clip in front of me...


54 posted on 05/15/2012 11:39:11 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: skeeter

I second what you said.


55 posted on 05/15/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: Road Glide

“There is a Pollyann-ish cohort of conservatives who believe that anyone and everyone will “embrace conservatism” — if only they can be shown conservative principles, they will logically see such principles as superior and will choose them over liberalism.”

That’s the ‘America-is-a-Proposition-Nation’ crowd.

For them, the founding American people with the culture that they passed on to their children counts for nothing.


56 posted on 05/15/2012 11:49:45 AM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: kabar

Deportation won’t be part of Rubio’s ‘plan’, that’s certain.


57 posted on 05/15/2012 11:55:06 AM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, la raza trojan horse.)
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To: G Larry
The first three are not new ideas nor are they difficult to do if we have a government that enforces our laws and defends our borders. 40% of all illegal aliens came here legally and overstayed their visas. Securing the border only solves part of the problem.

4 - Provide mechanism for students to stay under student visa’s, but they’d still go to back of line for legal imigration & citizenship.

Rubio is referring to so-called "children" who were brought here by their illegal parents. It is his version of the Dream Act. But issuing them student visas will not resolve the issue. They should go out of the country to apply for legal immigration to this country. And what about those "children" who don't want to go to college? Can they stay as well?

Rubio is advocating amnesty. When you reward something, you get more of it. And when those students get their status legalized and reach age 21, they can sponsor their relatives, including their parents, to come here legally. And how fair is it to those children of intending legal immigrants who are waiting overseas for their turn to enter and attend US schools?

58 posted on 05/15/2012 11:58:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: faucetman
McDonnell is refusing to sign a voter ID law. He is not a vigorous supporter of strong anti-illegal alien legislation to make VA less welcoming to illegals.

It remains to be seen how much of an asset McDonnell will be for Romney or Allen. And Allen is by no means a strong conservative. Bob Marshall and Jamie Radtke are far more conservative.

McDonnell has endorsed Bolling over Cuccinelli. That should tell you something.

59 posted on 05/15/2012 12:04:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

“And when those students get their status legalized and reach age 21, they can sponsor...”

Why do you pretend to finish a bill the author isn’t done with?

These “amnesty” and “Dream” labels are designed by folks suggesting “Ship them all home” is something that we’ll implement.

An element I didn’t mention are the penalties for employers of illegal immigrants, which clearly has a self-deportation effect.
How do you position yourself to criticize the “close the border” element as unrealistic, and then suggest that “shipping them all home” is the only realistic and acceptable approach?
Where’s YOUR realistic plan?


60 posted on 05/15/2012 12:10:03 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: SmileRight

Rubio is for the kind of amnesty program that would guarantee the GOP’s extinction.


61 posted on 05/15/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Road Glide
if only they can be shown conservative principles, they will logically see such principles as superior and will choose them over liberalism.

Your assessment relies on one to be logical, something that many people lack.

As a young boy, I was always told to learn from leaders. Learn from those who are better and strive to eventually be better than them. Think of the old saying, "...when the student becomes the teacher," and other such things.

So if a majority of conservatives are white and if a majority of taxpaying consumers in this country are white, could one make the case that a majority of successful people in this country or the world are white conservatives? And if that's the case, then why would politicians and their ilk try to cast aside whites as racist instead of embracing our work ethics, our morality, our values, and our family structures?

62 posted on 05/15/2012 1:08:40 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

“And if that’s the case, then why would politicians and their ilk try to cast aside whites as racist instead of embracing our work ethics, our morality, our values, and our family structures?”

That’s a very good question. I don’t profess to have the answer. I can only speculate.

Perhaps because for the last five decades, “our work ethics, our morality, our values, and our family structures” have been derided as racist, imperialistic, xenophobic, and whatever else you wish to brand them?


63 posted on 05/15/2012 2:00:26 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: G Larry

“oh?

and what is that “slide”?”

Read and understand Article II of the Constitution......
just because the dems got away with ignoring the Presidential eligibility requirements due to a perfect storm of political circumstances, and long term manuvering to install a throughly socialist candidate in the White House, doesn’t mean we should attempt to ignore it also and attempt the same coup. That is the “slide away from the Constitution” I’m talking about. But you knew that already, didn’t you? Your question appears purely rhetorical...and meant to lay a trap.

Rubio, born in the US to legally residing foreign citizen (Cuban) parents, is, under the 14th Amendment, a “born citizen.”

He is not, however, a “nautural born citizen” as understood, and intended by the framers, from their study of 18th century jurists/political thinkers/wrtters, when they used the term in writting Article II; nor as understood and defined by the USSC in numerious citizenship decisions... the principle one being Minor v. Happersett.

Rubio’s 14th amendment birthright citizenship is inmaterial at any rate, because when his parents became naturalized citizens their minor children shared in that naturalization also.

A “naturalized natural born citizen” is an inheirent contradiction of terms and meanings.

A far as citizenship is concerened, Rubio’s covered, 14th Amendment citizen and naturalized......Unlike Obama, there is no doubt Rubio’s a citizen...... unfortunately, just like Obama, he doesn’t meet Article II eligibility requirements because of his lack of two citizen parents.

Sorry as much as I appreciate Rubio’s values/principles/stances, defense of the American mores, his charisma/clarity, etc., he doesn’t meet Constitutional eligibility requirements for the position of POTUS. He knows it, and has often said he is not a candidate for the executive position(s).

I wish people would stop trying to push Republicans/conservatives/Conservatives to think that Rubio is eligible, and he should/will run if given enough “grass roots” pushing. It does a great dis-service to all of us, effectively serving to “legitimize” Obama’s unconstitutional assumption of power and subsequent reign of terror on the US body politic. They should be ashamed of themselves for being so short sighted.


64 posted on 05/15/2012 8:00:42 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Forty-Niner

I wish people would quit pretending to teach the Constitution who don’t understand it themselves.


65 posted on 05/15/2012 9:12:14 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: G Larry

“I wish people would quit pretending to teach the Constitution who don’t understand it themselves.”

Agreed when you gonna take up your study of it?


66 posted on 05/15/2012 9:32:13 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: skeeter

It was the Democrats who began this ethnic pandering generations ago. This is what big city politics is about. Any Republican that tries to immitate what the Democrats do is not worthy to be a leader as this person has no vision. Marco Rubio seems to be giving yesterday’s speaches. It think he is behind the people and is not daring enough to understand and challenge the whole Democrat worldview which includes an ethnic preference outlook.

What is it exactly that Hispanic voters want?


67 posted on 05/16/2012 8:36:50 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: rarestia
We have to promote our shared values with Hispanics and Asians. Many Hispanics and Asians believe in a strong work ethic, respect for the law and respect for the family. The Democrats are totally against these core values yet they play racial politics. What the Democrats do is to plant this suggestion in people's mind that Republicans don't like them and of course the Hispanics and Asians have a history of voting for Democrats as most immigrants do. But I think that the Republicans have to drive home these three basic values; work ethic, respect for the law and respect for the family. If Republicans were smart they would put up billboards in these ethnic neighborhoods outlining these three basic principles. Just the fact of having Republican billboards in these neighborhoods would show that Republicans have respect for the opinions of Hispanics and Asians which would go a long way.

HARD WORK, FAMILY, RESPECT FOR THE LAW This, I think would make a good slogan that sums up conservative values which we have in common with many Hispanics and Asians.

68 posted on 05/16/2012 8:49:32 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: kabar

Many immigrants today go right to the welfare roles. We saw the travesty of Aunt Zentuni who was in the country ILLEGALLY and was still given the whole smorgesbord of liberal welfare programs. Millions of legal immigrants do the same. Legalizing millions of illegal aliens, and their kids born here, and the many relatives that they will send for, would indeed inflate our welfare roles greatly.

Compassion begins at home. Let’s be compassionate to our own kids who will be stuck with the bills. Every man woman and child in this country now owes $40,000.


69 posted on 05/16/2012 8:56:48 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
Just the fact of having Republican billboards in these neighborhoods would show that Republicans have respect for the opinions of Hispanics and Asians which would go a long way. HARD WORK, FAMILY, RESPECT FOR THE LAW This, I think would make a good slogan that sums up conservative values which we have in common with many Hispanics and Asians.

You have a point - there's common ground ... which reminds me - my local paper didn't report on the Zimmerman news - doesn't fit the liberal narrative...

70 posted on 05/16/2012 8:59:35 AM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: camle

Exactly.


71 posted on 05/16/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: kabar

And nobody asked the American people what they thought about all of this. This is just more evidence that the federal government is almost totally controlled by the Democrat Party and works exclusively for its benefit.


72 posted on 05/16/2012 9:05:24 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SmileRight
It is their personal responsibility to seek out immigration lawyers at their own expense. Why do we have to carry these people on our backs? It is their responsibilty, we need to keep emphasizing that.
73 posted on 05/16/2012 9:11:41 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom
What is it exactly that Hispanic voters want?

Anyone who doesn't want only that God given liberties to rise or fall on their own industry restored - as intended by our founders - belongs on the other side.

If this does not happen soon we might as well admit though we still may have the name, we are no longer America.

74 posted on 05/16/2012 9:14:33 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: cradle of freedom

Both parties are controlled by corporate interests. The Chamber of Commerce wants to keep this inexhaustible supply of cheap labor flowing. It reduces costs and suppresses wages. There is a reason why Boehner and Cantor are not allowing a national e-verify law supported by Lamar Smith to be brought to a vote.


75 posted on 05/16/2012 9:25:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Road Glide

There are many people in non-white immigrant communities that practice conservative values in their lives, for instance the Asian shopkeeper who gets up at 5 in the morning to open his shop. These people should be natural conservatives and we have to reach out to them. Is the Republican party actually doing this? It is not enough to have a prominent person in the Republican party, we have to reach out to these communities and speak to the community leaders, especially the business people who have sway in their communities. Also, consider how these people have to deal with the angry blacks that the Democrats have spoiled rotten, blacks vote 90% Democrat. If Republicans were smart they would point out this connection to those Asians and Hispanic business people. Business owners could have a strong influence on their communities.


76 posted on 05/16/2012 9:28:00 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Road Glide

Every basic traditional American value has been attacked by the left. We have all been in a sort of Communist reeducation camp for the past 70 years. Conservatives are suffering from a bad case of beaten wife syndrom. We have to recognize this and start rethinking what has become the default (liberal) way of thinking. That is what freerepublic is about, it is a kind of think tank for everyman.


77 posted on 05/16/2012 9:40:54 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: kabar

That is true, the RINOS are a part of the problem as well.


78 posted on 05/16/2012 9:42:54 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: skeeter

This is why when I hear anything that sounds like ethnic pandering coming from Republicans, I put that person on my do not vote for list. I do not trust that person after that.


79 posted on 05/16/2012 9:46:26 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

But are Asians really part of any problem in this country? I was actually blown away to read that they general vote Democrat. Why? I wouldn’t have guessed that. Are they too intelligent for their own good?

I like the slogan, and I think it would be effective. However, those billboards would likely be defaced once it came out that “whitey” put them up.

But Asians?


80 posted on 05/16/2012 2:23:44 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Democrats know that once they get the first wave of immigrants the others will follow. This is why many ethnic groups are Democrats by ethnic group as mine is. It is village group think. Follow the crowd.


81 posted on 05/16/2012 2:47:28 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: kabar
Both parties are controlled by corporate interests. The Chamber of Commerce wants to keep this inexhaustible supply of cheap labor flowing. It reduces costs and suppresses wages.

Bingo!

Both parties could care less if the balkanization of America continues.

82 posted on 05/17/2012 10:58:49 AM PDT by eekitsagreek (got no money and you got no car, then you got no woman...and there you are!)
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