Fish or Foul on the Klamath River

AFPCalifornia ^ | 4/23/2012 | Americans for Prosperity

[Baynative]

The Department of Interior plans to destroy four dams on the Klamath River in Northern California so salmon can swim further than 180 miles up the river. But these dams provide water and flood protection to thousands of humans who also live along the river. Clean energy from these hydro dams supply electricity to 70,000 residents in the area. Despite a lack of scientific evidence that dam removal will help the fish, or any study on the human impact of dam removal, the DOI is pressing forward to have the dams destroyed. When their own scientist, Dr. Paul Houser, questions the science - he gets fired.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't most of these kind of dams in the Northwest built with accompanying “fish ladders” for the very purpose of preserving the salmon's ability to swim upstream past the dam???? If not, then we sure were lied to back when I was young. With movie footage to boot!

Or is it just offensive to the green-nazis that the fish have to swim up a man-made cataract instead of a “natural” one?

[Baynative]

"A 10 mile buffer zone should effectively evacuate pretty much everybody."

EXACTLY THE POINT!

[Baynative]

Dams withing spawning proximity to the coast have been constructed with fish ladders for a long time. Not the ones over 175 miles inland.

[cripplecreek]

People moving away and giving up the fight is helping the international activists gain strength.

Where ever there's an abundance of water or a scarcity of water its a steady fight. A small town near me is suing residents who refuse to destroy (destroy not cap) their wells after installing a municipal water system. At the state level, various bills keep being introduced that require that private wells and septic systems be inspected every 10 years. Such an inspection would shut me down immediately since my well and drinfield are both within 100 feet of the lake.

Interestingly enough, a map of the great lakes watershed mimics a map of a vast bio reserve on a UN wishlist I saw some years ago.

[BelegStrongbow]

I fought for almost 20 years. And lost most of the battles. We won a few that judges then rectally invaded. Forget it. Can’t shame me with ‘shoulda stuck it out’. You should move out too. If the ‘internationalists’ win there, it’ll be just part of them owning the world, so in the end, the difference will be that I am now enjoying my life, so that’s a net plus.

[goodnesswins]

Check out www.ispyradio.com and you will see programs on this topic, including an interview with Dr. Houser....also...remember...shortly after Houser’s resignation, the Interior Secretary DELAYED the decision on the dams.....there still is hope!!! The fight is continuing...

[KC Burke]

the beat goes on...Klamath pings please

[353FMG]

How can you expect the people to wake up when congresscritters are all fast asleep?

Weren’t these elected to stand guard over our Constitution?

[cripplecreek]

The fight is continuing...

And we are winning a few. Just a few years ago the Argo and Geddes dams on the Huron River in Ann Arbor Mi. were slated for removal. Today it looks like hydro electric generators will go in right in the middle of Berkley East.

[q_an_a]

Liberals would already have a lawsuit at the courthouse - what is wrong with framers and conservatives?

[Digger]

Please, people. Take the time to stop, look and listen to what liberals are doing to our country and our freedom!

I'm with ya but you & I could not round up 50 people who are willing to put forth some energy & fight back at any one item.

[itsahoot]

Or is it just offensive to the green-nazis

The Greens are useful Idiots, if you think saving fish is their goal, you are underestimating the enemy.

Coming soon......LOST.

New World Order brought to you by the compassionate conservative dynasty of daBushes

[itsahoot]

what is wrong with framers and conservatives?

Uh, maybe the conservatives are not really conservatives?

[tomkat]

[tubebender]

They have no idea how many millions of Cu/Yds of silt are behind these dams nor what it wil do to Kurok, Yurok and Hoopa or the ocean fisheries.

[JDoutrider]

mark

[jimt]

...to seek social justice.

No, what they're seeking is world control. Hitler's come back with a "green" face. They're totalitarians, and deserve to be treated as such.

[OneLoyalAmerican]

Greetings CC:

My memory of the target Great Lakes watershed map extends west to Lake Champlain region on the Ontario westerly border.

BTW, the Chicago region not being within the watershed map is courtesy of two diversion canals with a series of seven dams with navagation locks. Battle lines are being drawn concerning the closure of Illinois Waterway System navagation locks. Proposed means to prevent an invasive species, Asian Carp, from entering the Great Lakes.

Ah, the unintended consequences of doing too good of a job during clean up of Chicago’s toilet flushes.

Cheers,
OLA

[Baynative]

"Liberals would already have a lawsuit at the courthouse - what is wrong with framers and conservatives?

I think digger answered this to an extent in #31. Conservatives are not as quick to act until they feel directly threatened while liberals are obsessed with controlling everything and everyone. They never rest and it seems that they have an much larger resource well when it comes to finding money for their causes.

[cripplecreek]

Unfortunate but true. Conservatives tie themselves to one issue at a time while liberals continue picking away at the whole foundation.

Conservatives are wrapped up with Keystone, ANWR, and offshore drilling but I don’t see anyone other than myself talking about the great lakes directional drilling ban. Michigan sits atop one of the largest natural gas deposits in the nation but few people seem to notice it. Meanwhile we fight many separate battles in every township in the state for each well drilled. A single township doesn’t stand much chance against global green groups like “The Waterkeepers” who are heavily funded by the Kennedy family and others.