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The Obama Economy Is Wrecking NASCAR
weeklystandard ^ | 5 15 12

Posted on 05/15/2012 11:48:09 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

The National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR) has been considered America’s fastest growing sport, quickly becoming a national phenomenon. But a new economic study shows even NASCAR’s powerful engines haven’t been able to keep up with the Obama-era economy.

The study, from the pro-market think tank Public Notice and Race Fans 4 Freedom, finds that the economic downturn of the last several years has directly affected how NASCAR fans watch and enjoy their sport. Since 2009, race attendance per year has fallen below 4 million people, and the number has been declining severely as the unemployment rate has skyrocketed. The cost of attending—with higher gas prices, less disposable income, and diminished financial security—has increased.

According to the study, the value of the sport, too, is threatened by the poor economy, with the stock prices of racing team companies plummeting in the last five years and sponsors pulling back on funding cars....

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1 posted on 05/15/2012 11:48:15 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

NASCAR is dying because the cookie-cutter cars are boring and the predictable late-race crashes/cautions are getting tiresome.

And I’m not even a huge fan...


2 posted on 05/15/2012 11:52:15 AM PDT by jra
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To: jra

You invest the time to watch a 400 or 500 mile race only to be treated to a Green/White/Checker finish with a bunched-up field. Zzzzzzz!


3 posted on 05/15/2012 11:55:16 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The Obama economy is also impacting the NFL.

There are football stadiums that were once overflowing with NFL fans that are now somewhat empty during games.


4 posted on 05/15/2012 11:55:23 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: jra
NASCAR is dying because the cookie-cutter cars are boring and the predictable late-race crashes/cautions are getting tiresome

Also, ticket prices and cost of attending are way past what the average people can afford even in a good economy.

5 posted on 05/15/2012 11:55:47 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: jra

“NASCAR is dying because the cookie-cutter cars are boring”

Don’t forget:

cookie-cutter drivers

cookie-cutter race tracks

cookie-cutter races

My favorite line used to be (to my open wheel and F1 friends) “it’s the last, honest, unscripted, real racing on the planet.”

Obviously I haven’t said that in a while.


6 posted on 05/15/2012 11:57:15 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

The European Touring Car series is worth a look...same with the Australian V8’s.

If NASCAR was smart, they’d let the domestic marques race their 2-door RWD V8 cars like Mustangs, Camaros, Chargers, etc.

You’d see not only attendance/viewership spike, the sales of those models would increase as well.


7 posted on 05/15/2012 11:59:18 AM PDT by jra
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To: InvisibleChurch

I am off 95% in the wedding business. Families are afraid to spend anything these days.


8 posted on 05/15/2012 11:59:42 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: InvisibleChurch

They have slept with the enemy (dems) & woken up with a headache.


9 posted on 05/15/2012 12:01:34 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: jra

I won’t bore you with paragraphs of what ails NASCAR but suffice it to say that when the marketing tail began wagging the racing dog it all went downhill very quickly.


10 posted on 05/15/2012 12:05:09 PM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Used to go to 3 or 4 races a year. Don’t go to any now. Charlotte tickets were approaching $500 for 2 tickets for 2 races. We said that’s it. Too much. Gave up the last tickets 3 years ago. Costs way to much to attend now.

Thes CAR OF TOMORROW help drive a few nails in the coffin. Drivers having to be polite and PC. Now they are running ethanol, the stuff that is eating motors alive everywhere else. Then Moochele. Haven’t even watched one on TV since that happened.


11 posted on 05/15/2012 12:05:59 PM PDT by cork
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To: All
The Obama Economy Is Wrecking NASCAR

GOOD! All them crackers need to feel the pain, like the black man did for enduring 400 years of slavery!

12 posted on 05/15/2012 12:07:14 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: George from New England

“I am off 95% in the wedding business.”

Same here and now the families are wanting ala-carte services. Time to look into another career. Who am I kidding, we will get past it like we did before.


13 posted on 05/15/2012 12:09:09 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“...has been considered America’s fastest growing sport, quickly becoming a national phenomenon”

Huh? NASCAR’s popularity began to grow in the 80’s when races started being broadcast on live TV. NASCAR however was formed in the late 40’s. hardly a quick jump to popularity by any standards.


14 posted on 05/15/2012 12:11:04 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: jra

They sort of are doing that in the Nationwide series...the cars are now stickered up to look like Challengers and Mustangs instead of Chargers and Fusions. They’re still the same car, though.

“Stock” cars haven’t been “stock” for about 30 years now.

Australian V8 Supercar racing is FANTASTIC. They’re still not “stock” cars but at least they more resemble their Holden and Ford counterparts than Sprint Cup cars do. And the road course racing they do is intense. (And at least Australia seems to be the only country other than us who ever really fell in love with the concept of the big-displacement V8.)

}:-)4


15 posted on 05/15/2012 12:15:24 PM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: jra

There is no question that Obama has hurt everything except the bill collector business. Sports are no exception. BUT, what drives ticket sales is charismatic characters who are either loved or hated. Jeff Gordon was a lightning rod a decade ago, but he doesn’t win enough to arouse such passion anymore. BTW, I am not a NASCAR fan, but I no longer hear the back and forth jibes that once dominated fans’ conversations.
Some of the women may hate me for saying this, but when Annika Sorenstam dominated women’s golf, she did everything possible to make her lovely countenance less appealing. Cropped, sometimes buzzed hair, no make-up, bland attire. I guarantee that had Annika understood what it is that puts bodies in the gallery, talent PLUS sex appeal, the women’s tour would have drowned in cash. Oh well. Bob


16 posted on 05/15/2012 12:16:16 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: relictele

Fake debris cautions, barn-door aerodynamics on the COT, rock-hard Goodyear tires that cause virtually no decrease in lap times during a fuel run, the Chase, way too many cookie-cutter mile-and-a-half tracks...there’s a lot of things that are screwing up the actual racing in Sprint Cup. The economy is wrecking the sponsorship dollars, and the high ticket price (and gouging of hotel/food/gas prices on race weekends) are driving away the fans that can still stand the racing.

}:-)4


17 posted on 05/15/2012 12:18:20 PM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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To: InvisibleChurch

I say, to spice it up, make the track a same-level figure 8.


18 posted on 05/15/2012 12:20:14 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: InvisibleChurch

NHMS used to charge at least $50/ticket. Today they have starting ticket prices under $20/ticket. Hopey-changey, hopey-changey.


19 posted on 05/15/2012 12:21:03 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-eyed killer of the deep.)
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To: Uncle Slayton

Look at any sporting event. They all have lots of empty seats. MLB is really hurting. Add to that, teams have been raising ticket prices while most of the folks who would go to a game are more concerned about putting food in the fridge than going to a game.


20 posted on 05/15/2012 12:21:12 PM PDT by Texas resident (November 6 - Vote Against obama)
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To: jra
It does not get anymore exciting than sprint cars on dirt. (sprint CARS that is, not Sprint Cup)
21 posted on 05/15/2012 12:26:31 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Moose4

They sacked the ‘hat man’ and it all went wrong thereafter.


22 posted on 05/15/2012 12:26:43 PM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: Turbo Pig

“All them crackers need to feel the pain, like the black man did for enduring 400 years of slavery!”


No black man born in the USA has endured slavery let alone 400 years of it. Seems there are always hoards of brown/black people trying to get in this awful cracker filled place. Thanks to the, oh so glad he is dead, woman killer Ted Kennedy, the “crackers” are at the bottom of the immigration preference list. Just maybe that might be some of our problems.

I can make a much better case that whites have been in slavery since so much of what we work for is stolen by our government to give to others.


23 posted on 05/15/2012 12:31:16 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: cameraeye; George from New England

I have a honeymoon rental cabin in Tennessee.

Business sucks balls...


24 posted on 05/15/2012 12:33:11 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Mitt knows some of the owners, maybe he can help?

25 posted on 05/15/2012 12:34:59 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: jra
NASCAR is dying because the cookie-cutter cars are boring and the predictable late-race crashes/cautions are getting tiresome.

Not to mention the Danica Patrick PMS bumps after the checkered flag has already fallen.

26 posted on 05/15/2012 12:36:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: I cannot think of a name; jra

I think you guys both nailed it. You could also add “horrible TV commentary.” I loved DW as a driver but he is AWFUL in the broadcast booth. If “unlistenable” isn’t in the dictionary, it should be, with DW’s picture next to it.

We had Brickyard 400 tickets every year for 18 years; excellent seats, too. But IMS really isn’t suited for NASCAR, or maybe you could say the COT is definitely not suited to IMS. Either way I found myself taking a nap between laps 80 and 130. Well hell, for that I’ve got a much more comfortable sofa at home that doesn’t cost near as much. We finally gave up our seats after the 2010 race. And we’re not the only ones.

Used to be we didn’t miss too many races on TV, either. My boys used to line up their die-cast cars on the floor and have their own race while the real race was on. Those days are a distant memory.


27 posted on 05/15/2012 12:36:25 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Obama is happy that the bible thumpin’ bitter clingers are suffering.


28 posted on 05/15/2012 12:37:05 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: jra

I’m a casual fan. I am tired of hearing about ethanol. Moochelle at Homestead was a travesty, and then Carl Edwards went to be a part of the idiotic “Let’s Move” gathering of thousands - how much did that cost us?


29 posted on 05/15/2012 12:37:07 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: InvisibleChurch

NASCAR must address the 450 miles of fake racing and staying out of trouble then 50 miles of let her rip.

I would give points for every lap based upon position and for the last lap give significant bonus points.

This would force the drivers/crews to do their damned best every lap and fight for every position.

As they run 43 cars, pay 43 points for first place every lap minus one point for every position back. Maybe the last lap multiply that by 5 or 10.

That number of points per lap will have the fans on the edge of their seats.


30 posted on 05/15/2012 12:37:40 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Texas resident

Just look at the the Dallas Cowboy Stadium, when was the last time Jerry Jones had a sell out, even though the Cowboy fans know for a fact that their team is going to the Super Bowl?


31 posted on 05/15/2012 12:40:06 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Gettin Betta

“It does not get anymore exciting than sprint cars on dirt. (sprint CARS that is, not Sprint Cup) “


As a former dirt track driver I can attest to the fun of sliding a car through the corner and spending more time on handling than just pure horsepower however, I detest any series where the cars do not have self starters. Every spin results in a long boring caution.

Regarding Sprint cars, when they run, they are exciting. When they stall they suck.


32 posted on 05/15/2012 12:42:41 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
How about if you're not in the lead lap by the last 50 miles, you're out of the race? Only the lead lap continues to the finish?

-PJ

33 posted on 05/15/2012 12:44:01 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: cameraeye

What little stock money I made has dried up and I have added more stuff to the galleries.


34 posted on 05/15/2012 12:45:28 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: trailhkr1
Taking a family of four to a Yankee or Red Sox game can easily cost around $400 or $500. The cost could climb a lot higher if you have a few $10 bottles of beer and $5 bottles of water.
35 posted on 05/15/2012 12:46:57 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“How about if you’re not in the lead lap by the last 50 miles, you’re out of the race? Only the lead lap continues to the finish?”

I once thought that would work, since it would keep the clunkers off the track and out of the way of the competitors. However, with this rule you can guarantee a fake caution every time the leader gets within 10 car lengths of Dale Jr’s rear spoiler.


36 posted on 05/15/2012 12:47:23 PM PDT by henkster (Wanted: Politicians willing to say "No" to people. No experience required.)
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To: Texas resident

I sort of involved in sports marketing and research and yes a lot of sports stadiums and events are thin.

I quit caring about glorified drving in a big circle back in the early 80s and I was a teen then.

NASCAR is unwatchable, too many effects, too many stupid people as on air talent, too much hype, and too much social commentary on every trivial nothing aspect of the drivers.

When the big ethanol push came I figured it was only a matter of time before NASCAR started to go really downhill.

Top Gear has revived a little interest in Formula 1.


37 posted on 05/15/2012 12:52:20 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Gettin Betta

Bingo.

Give me a good 25 or 30-lap feature with lots of passing and dicing for position for the whole race.

None of this hanging back to see what happens.

No pit stops = no pit strategy.

Balls out for the entire race.

...and a little dirt on your french fries is good.


38 posted on 05/15/2012 12:54:10 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: InvisibleChurch; NormsRevenge

Even the live threades for the races here at FR have fallen off greatly. Wasn’t all that long ago these threads would generally be in the 500-1000 reply range. This year;

Daytona - 691
Phoenix - 185
Las Vegas - 245
Bristol - 142
Fontana - 144
Martinsville - 223
Texas - 220
Kanxax - 120
Richmond - 119
Talladega - 153
Darlington - 86

Granted, some of this fall-off may have to do with some of the personalities of those who were on these threads, but still, NASCAR has to take some of the hit.


39 posted on 05/15/2012 12:57:52 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Wurlitzer

That’s just the white devil speaking through you ;-)


40 posted on 05/15/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Stop pushing ethanol...


41 posted on 05/15/2012 1:07:23 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Wurlitzer

“Regarding Sprint cars, when they run, they are exciting. When they stall they suck.”

True, when not enough push trucks are available. If the track runs sprint cars regularly they usually have enough to keep delays to a minimum. Well worth the wait IMHO!!


42 posted on 05/15/2012 1:08:22 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: Moose4

As long as Jimmie Johnson is racing, I’ll watch.:)


43 posted on 05/15/2012 1:35:26 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Uncle Slayton
Big-time sports in general have just gotten so overloaded with sponsorship bling-bling that they are just about unwatchable.

These days I much prefer a high school football game, a minor league baseball game, or the local dirt track races.

44 posted on 05/15/2012 2:01:59 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Nothing says NASCAR like Lenny Kravitz at the Daytona 500.
It’s over.


45 posted on 05/15/2012 2:51:08 PM PDT by Fireone (Liberals are just overschooled, undereducated, adult children. (did I mention FUBO?))
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To: Political Junkie Too

“How about if you’re not in the lead lap by the last 50 miles, you’re out of the race? Only the lead lap continues to the finish?”


An improvement possibly but I honestly believe points per position per lap would make everyone aggressive and to fight for every position even if they were a lap or more down as they would be racing for position.


46 posted on 05/16/2012 12:08:44 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Wurlitzer
Interesting, but the winner of the race won't always be the first person across the finish line.

-PJ

47 posted on 05/16/2012 7:03:24 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
When the government stopped the tobacco companies from advertising ticket prices went up for all forms of racing and other events such as concerts
48 posted on 05/16/2012 7:28:30 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: InvisibleChurch

NASCAR’s move toward PC and away from country conservative is what’s hurting them...


49 posted on 05/16/2012 7:52:48 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“Interesting, but the winner of the race won’t always be the first person across the finish line.”


No the winner will always be the winner for payout $$$$ and the various perks associated with taking the checker.

They may not win as many championship points however. There would be a big point bump for the last lap but if they sat in the back of the pack all night/day long playing it safe, they would take a hit in championship points.

As it is now, most, not all, races are pretty boring until the last 50 laps.

2 years ago when we went to the Bristol night race, had it not been for the incredibly loud engine noise you could have fell asleep until the end and not missed a heck of a lot.


50 posted on 05/17/2012 8:42:30 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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