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Two Earths would be needed to sustain human activity by 2030, report finds
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Posted on 05/16/2012 5:40:23 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

wo Earths would be needed to sustain human activity by 2030, report finds Report shows animal species fell 30%, wealthy countries do the most damage By Meghan Neal / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Published: Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 9:40 PM Updated: Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 6:49 AM

Planet Earth in a tight spot.

Mankind is draining the earth's resources so quickly the globe would be bled dry before the end of the century at this rate, a new report shows.

Humans are living outside their means, depleting natural resources like forests, air and water 50% faster than the planet can renew, according to the 2012 World Wildlife Fund's "Living Planet Report" released this month.

If the trends aren't reversed, by 2030 we’d need more than two Planet Earths to sustain human activity, according to the study.

“If we just do business as usual…we’re just going to continue moving in this direction. At some point, the earth’s going to just give out. We don’t know when. But that’s a pretty scary thing to think about,” said Colby Loucks, director of conservation science at WWF. “The question is, we don’t know what the tipping point is.”

According to research by the WWF the demand on the planet’s natural resources has doubled over the last 50 years, with most of the burden falling on poorer nations.

Wealthy countries can have up to five times the "ecological footprint" as low-income countries, because consumption is much higher.

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To: Sub-Driver

“The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference?
The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!”

( George Carlin. )


51 posted on 05/16/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (Write In Sarah Palin)
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To: Gaffer

Agreed. I’ve always thought there was a link between liberal environmentalism and eugenics.


52 posted on 05/16/2012 6:00:01 AM PDT by Freestate316
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To: SampleMan

Damn that means everyone could live in Texas and the rest of the planet would be empty.


53 posted on 05/16/2012 6:00:40 AM PDT by stockpirate (Romney, Ann Coulter & our ruling republican elites, are Big Government socialists, Grand Ole Sociali)
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To: oh8eleven

This is the main reason I despise liberals -

they make me oppose and hate things that I should support and like.

Stewardship of the environment.
Energy conservation.
Alternative energy production.
“Helping” the “poor”.

You say that liberals ruin (twist) everything they touch.
So does their ideological father. They’re just doing his will and building his kingdom on earth.


54 posted on 05/16/2012 6:01:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: stockpirate
This is such a load of crap. I heard on Rush one day that if "you moved everyone on the palent to Texas each person would have like a half acre to live on, which means the rest of the planet could be used to raise food."

Yep in fact if you got ALL of the people on the planet together for one of those group aerial pics they wouldn't even cover Rhode Island.

Its always fun to ask some libtard greenie the Question: ?How Many states would be covered if we got all the people on the earth together in the USA for an Aerial group shot?"

They are always astonished at the answer which is Zero.

55 posted on 05/16/2012 6:01:28 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: stockpirate

——Sorry, there is about 688,800,000 1/4 acres in Texas, so we would need to use a couple of more states.——

You could fit more than one person in each house that fits on 1/4 acre. Maybe 5 or 6 people per house?

That would leave the rest of the earth void of human beings.

The real problem in the developed world is population decline.


56 posted on 05/16/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I've seen credible studies showing that the carrying capacity of the Earth may be 36 Billion or higher.

so we could be crowded here in America, like China, Japan or India. stay in hotels that offer coffin sized rooms.

not for me..

57 posted on 05/16/2012 6:02:33 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Paul Ehrlich used to say this kind of stuff. I recall attending a lecture that he gave in 1969 in which he said that unless the middle class birth-controlled itself out of existence, the earth was doomed.


58 posted on 05/16/2012 6:02:59 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Heh...last time I checked, Alaska, Canada, and Siberia were all still pretty empty and full of natural resources.


59 posted on 05/16/2012 6:02:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Give the libs the old one.Since they can’t fix anything,just wait a few years until they all starve to death-then move back.


60 posted on 05/16/2012 6:04:11 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: GreyFriar

Greenies can’t be bothered with facts. It’s all about feeeelings!


61 posted on 05/16/2012 6:06:47 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In 1970 Hal Lindsey said in "The Late, Great Planet Earth" that the world would end in the '80s.

He was only referring to the music industry.


62 posted on 05/16/2012 6:07:57 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh bull doodoo.


63 posted on 05/16/2012 6:08:02 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Sub-Driver

But, but... We were supposed to have destroyed the planet through overpopulation and activity back in the ‘60s. Paul Ehrlich told us so! < s/o >.


64 posted on 05/16/2012 6:08:35 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Vaquero
Mexico City has the highest poulation density on the planet.

There are plenty of wide open spaces in China and India. The cities may be crowded, but there is more to the planet than cities.

Much of the American west is unpopulated. Much of Russia is severely underpopulated. And that's a LOT of area.

Your statement that the earth is way overpopulated is unfounded.

/johnny

65 posted on 05/16/2012 6:08:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's funny how they always blame the west...even though western countries lead the way in green technologies. It's 2nd and 3rd world nations that are still polluting like crazy...showing little regard for the environment; cutting down huge swaths of forrests and killing off sharks for shark fin soup.

But have no fear. I'm sure a war here or there will knock the world's population down to a size just like WWII, Korea and Vietnam did. Imagine the population if 100 million people hadn't died in war last century.

66 posted on 05/16/2012 6:08:47 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Sub-Driver

And they say war is not the answer.


67 posted on 05/16/2012 6:09:01 AM PDT by steve8714 (Who didn't already know Obama was our first gay President?)
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To: Vaquero

Maybe Iran can eliminate a few million.

Seriously, I think Jesus will come back before “billions die”.


68 posted on 05/16/2012 6:09:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: stockpirate
Damn that means everyone could live in Texas and the rest of the planet would be empty.

If current tax policies persist we may find out...
69 posted on 05/16/2012 6:09:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

Perhaps all the lefties would agree to being sent to planet Gore to live out the rest of their days.


70 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:04 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: InterceptPoint
We need SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. Quick, call the U.N. and find out how we do that.

Just check out Cuba, Zimbabwe and North Korea.

71 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:18 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Sub-Driver

Funny thing is that these idiots will do everything in their power to prevent us from exploring space or using resources found there.


72 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
My favorite crisis is the water crisis.

My reply to those who say we should conserve water is "Oh my gosh, you're right. Somebody should turn off Niagra Falls!"

73 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hhhmmm...lets see if I understand this....we’ve discovered that nature urgently needs some type of intelligent design component steering the natural selection and survival of the fittest process????? Do I have it correctly?


74 posted on 05/16/2012 6:17:01 AM PDT by E-2K
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To: Sub-Driver

So what? They’re finding new planets all the time, and the airlines are already figuring out how to get there.


75 posted on 05/16/2012 6:19:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: JRandomFreeper

God gave us the planet to sustain us and He told us to be fruitful and multiply so I will trust that He has a plan that will allow the earth to sustain as many as He sees fit to put here.


76 posted on 05/16/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: Sub-Driver

Every single person on this planet could be stood up in the Grand Canyon with a yard of space around them.

If you put all the people in the world in houses, 4 or 5 to a house, with a front lawn, sidewalk, and street, you wouldn’t need more room than the state of Texas.

The trouble with this kind of crappy science is that some of it sticks when uneducated and stupid libtards read it.


77 posted on 05/16/2012 6:20:42 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Sub-Driver

Well let’s just go out and find another planet and, like the capitalist/Imperialists we are, take it over and wipe out or enslave the aborigional population. (Do I need a sarc tag?)

Oh, I forgot, we can’t send men into space anymore...


78 posted on 05/16/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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79 posted on 05/16/2012 6:21:55 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Vaquero
so we could be crowded here in America, like China, Japan or India. stay in hotels that offer coffin sized rooms.

not for me..


Same here. I actually like the fact that so many have left Michigan.
80 posted on 05/16/2012 6:22:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Your “fair share” of the planet’s land mass, rank wilderness included, is about 5 acres. Get it while the gettin’s good.


81 posted on 05/16/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: american_ranger
This is the same kind of crap I used to read in the 70’s.

Definitely. We were supposed to have been in another ice age by now.

And, I'm still waiting for the end of life as we know it from the Gulf (of Mexico) oil spill.

82 posted on 05/16/2012 6:24:13 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Farmer Dean

Naw, they get their new paradise. Just like in the Star Trek (TOS), The Way to Eden. The key to the deal is in the details of the split. We agree to do the work up front, getting them off this Earth. They agree to do all the fancy out year stuff, to get from “off Earth” to wherever they want to go. And let nature run its course. Our part will work and shouldn’t be too hard. Many of them are already out of this world.


83 posted on 05/16/2012 6:26:55 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: jennychase

Well, Leftists are the leading instigators of it. Radical population reduction always is one of their first agenda items.


84 posted on 05/16/2012 6:27:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: SampleMan
And if you went with Manhattan density levels, everyone on earth would fit into a 290 x 290 mile square (including parks and working structures), about the area of Utah.

Oh, man. Can you imagine finding a parking space?

85 posted on 05/16/2012 6:29:41 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Sub-Driver

When the WWF and similar grant-supported organizations get China, Daubi, Saudi Arabia, etc., to sign on and support to their plans and convert to ‘green’, I might start believing.

Until then, this is just another scare tactic with the underlying intent of getting grant money from governmental entities. These organizations are very effective at the Jesse Jackson type shakedowns of Western governments — to get grant money.


86 posted on 05/16/2012 6:29:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Sub-Driver

What does the WWF(World Wrestling Federation)know about sustaining life?


87 posted on 05/16/2012 6:30:15 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: ILS21R

Can I be your Pilot?


88 posted on 05/16/2012 6:31:11 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: stockpirate

Texas: With 268,820 square miles of area and 640 acres per square mile the actual acerage is 172,044,800 acres. Every person in the US could indeed have a half acre to himself.


89 posted on 05/16/2012 6:32:26 AM PDT by albie
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
New York City has a population density of 27,243.06/sq mi. Texas has an area of Texas has an area of 268,820 square miles. So given the same population density as New York City, which compared to other mega cities around the world isn't terribly crowded, Texas City could support a population of 7,323,479,389.

Current world population is estimated at 7.014 billion. If existing trends, decline in industrial countries balanced against rise in agrarian countries, are maintained it is estimated that population will peak around 2080 with just over nine billion. So we will probably need to expand into Oklahoma as well.

90 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:56 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Sub-Driver

UN Agenda 21 will take care of that- by reducing the human population by about 85% over 20 years.


91 posted on 05/16/2012 6:37:03 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In 1970 Hal Lindsey said in "The Late, Great Planet Earth" that the world would end in the '80s.

The template is always the same. Put Doomsday out about 15 years. It's close enough to cause worry now (and make some money), but far enough away that when it doesn't happen folks won't remember.

92 posted on 05/16/2012 6:37:53 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: Fiji Hill
unless the middle class birth-controlled itself out of existence, the earth was doomed.

In the 60s and 70s, the effort was toward Population Zero -- in Western societies.

Well, Western societies have basically attained that. However, 3rd world and Islamic cultures have continued to proliferate and increase their numbers.

Notice how the do-gooder Lefties always point 'guilt' toward the Western societies, but seldom toward non-Western societies.

Guess which societies are the most generous in providing grants, etc.


93 posted on 05/16/2012 6:39:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Sub-Driver

I am willing to contribute whatever I have to send the “Reporters”at The New York Slimes to whatever planet they care to venture to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


94 posted on 05/16/2012 6:41:42 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: cuban leaf
Humans do more harm than animals but far, FAR more good.

What about that theory that dinosaur farts put so much methane into the atmosphere that the Earth warmed by as much as 10 degrees celsius? < /stupid comparison >

95 posted on 05/16/2012 6:42:47 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I remember reading that in the seventies. That guy really screwed my life up. It took me years to recover.


96 posted on 05/16/2012 6:44:12 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Sub-Driver
This reminds me of the john edward's talking point ... two Americas ... then there has to be two earths.
97 posted on 05/16/2012 6:46:03 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Deal. But be careful of the robot. I still don’t have all his bugs worked out.


98 posted on 05/16/2012 6:47:30 AM PDT by ILS21R (John Locke: When the social contract is broken, the people must revolt.)
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To: rockinqsranch
We’re all gonna die.

Yes, we are. Just a matter of when and how.

"It is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgement". Hebrews 9:27

99 posted on 05/16/2012 6:48:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dividing current farmland by population and rounding the result up a bit, each person gets a plot 47x47m: 603 sq ft for living and the rest for farmland. Assuming half the land is rank (unusable) wilderness, that roughs out to an optimistic world carrying capacity of 33000M people.

But that’s not taking into account high-efficiency farming or compact housing, nor a population’s tendency to self-limit (1st World populations are suffering plummeting replacement rates).


100 posted on 05/16/2012 6:49:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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