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Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make
Political Realities ^ | 7 Apr 12 | LD

Posted on 05/16/2012 2:51:31 PM PDT by xzins

 

Thanks to LD for allowing me to publish this lengthy article that is mirror-posted at The Country Thinker. It will be shocking to some, but I have been accused (politely) of being crazy, insane, and a variety of similar expressions over my political positions. This is my rebuttal to explain in detail why I am not.

I don’t normally post on Saturday, but I had a conversation with a political consultant friend of mine on Thursday and what we discussed is just too critical to let slide. (I can’t mention his name because he does paying work for the Big Two; he gives his services to Third Parties and Independents for free.) This is going to be one of the tersest posts I’ve ever written, and if you’re a reader who can’t handle criticism of the Republican Party, please read no further so we don’t end up with ill will between us. For those who can take criticism, this may be the most important piece you read this year—if you truly get it, anyhow.

Why am I so passionate today? Well, most readers who visit here know the country is in deep doo-doo. I’m here to tell you that voting for Mitt Romney (D-Mass.) will not change that fact and may make things worse. I will explain two things. First, Mitt Romney (D-Mass.) is the presumptive Republican nominee precisely because he will do nothing to improve our country’s fortunes. He is the chosen one because he will maintain the status quo. That is what the GOP machine has chosen him to do.

Second, you cannot “take over” the Republican machine and turn it into something in decent. I have made that statement before, but I’m going to describe the machine in greater detail. Keep in mind that this is information I have obtained from current and former GOP insiders. Everyone on the inside agrees that the Party has been constructed so it cannot be taken over. They have also constructed a political system so the political duopoly is very, very difficult to challenge. (Republican insiders HATE political freedom, like so many other freedoms.) Whether that’s a good thing or bad thing is a matter of judgment. For conservatives and libertarians it’s bad. For establishmentarians it’s wonderful.

Finally I will explain why voting for Romney (D-Mass.) is the worst thing you can do, regardless of whether you’re a “principals” voter or a “strategic” voter.

If you are not one hundred percent convinced that I am correct in those statements, you absolutely must read the rest of this piece and tell me where I’m wrong. I know I’m correct, and I can assure you that if you vote for Romney (D-Mass.) it will be the greatest political regret of your life.

Inside the GOP

I left the GOP a few years back because of my disgust at the Party’s utter lack of principle and inability to nominate respectable candidates. After some soul searching (and a period of time when I swore I’d never vote again) I landed in the Libertarian Party, which is my natural philosophical home.

Since I have gotten active in electoral politics I have gotten to know some folks who have been involved with both major Parties at relatively high levels; consultants, former members of state central committees, former elected officials, campaign managers, media relations folks, etc. Most are independents now. Some have joined with the Libertarian or Constitution Parties. Some are still with the Big Two. But they have opened my eyes to reveal that which I knew instinctively, namely, the Republican Party is a monstrosity beyond repair, and that is by design. (The Democratic Party is not quite as bad.)

It is the monstrosity of the GOP I am going to discuss here. If I am able to open your eyes, you will be hard-pressed to remain loyal to the beast. You certainly will not pull the lever for Romney (D-Mass.). That would make matters worse, not better.

You cannot learn about Republican Party politics by watching Fox, reading The Wall Street Journal (my favorite media outlet on all other matters), or trusting the Heritage Foundation. They are all in the game that is working against you, the rank-and-file of the GOP. Rush Limbaugh seems to have some sense of how the game is played, yet enables it through his blind allegiance to the Republican Party. He will not say a peep about either Gary Johnson (polling 7% right now, which will probably double when Ron Paul concedes), or Americans Elect (with a $35 million war chest) until he has no choice. These two campaigns will have a dramatic impact on the upcoming election, but GOP loyalists like Limbaugh keep it mum and toe the line when it comes to the GOP’s hatred of political freedom.

You must talk to those who have gone inside the belly of the beast to understand exactly what you’re dealing with. (Get involved with a state or local group—if you dare.)

What is the Republican Party?

So what is the Republican Party? (This also applies to the Democratic Party to a slightly lesser degree.) Politicians are not the Party. This is an extremely point to understand. When you open your eyes to this basic fact, you will see how futile it is to think that you can change things through the ballot box.

To compare the Republican Party to a car, politicians are the hood ornament. Money is the gasoline, and special interests are the driver, mechanic, and gas station attendant. The rest of the vehicle is built of consultants, campaign managers, advisors, bureaucrats, media and marketing folks, state and national committee members, etc., etc. Within the context of Republican Party politics, elected officials yield the least influence. The president may be the most powerful person in the world, but that doesn’t mean he’s in charge. Politicians who sincerely want to do a good job are deemed “Outliers” and are given little influence, or are openly attacked by the Party; see the sordid story of Governor John Kasich (R-Oh.) below. (Obama works off-script an unusually large amount of the time for a president, which is why the Democratic establishment can’t stand him and can’t wait for his next term to finish. Hillary Clinton will be much more compliant.)

The role of the Republican Party is to dole out America’s resources in the manner the major donors wish. The role of politicians, especially the president, is to put a smiling face on it, which is why Romney (D-Mass.) is the GOP’s anointed one. The fact that he is so effective at fundraising should scare the crap out of any sentient being. He’s a handsome, smiling bobble-head; nothing more. It tells you that he will exert little influence over his administration if elected.

So the GOP cannot be taken over at the ballot box. You must move to Washington and evict all of those who comprise the structure of the machine. Good luck with that, especially when you’re going to have to beat the money-men to pull it off.

Smart companies like Goldman Sachs and General Electric donate to both Parties. GS was Obama’s biggest donor last election cycle, and if polls show Romney (D-Mass.) likely to win, they will be his biggest donor. The reason should be obvious; the firm and the other big banks wrote most of Dodd-Frank, and unsurprisingly their market share has increased significantly since the bill was enacted. Had Romney (D-Mass.) been president, he would have signed it, too. (Additionally, Bush and Obama have had thousands of Wall Street folks working in their administrations. It’s a modern-day spoils system, and Romney (D-Mass.) will do the same.)

Thus, Nancy Pelosi’s infamous “you have to pass the bill to find out what’s in the bill” comment was actually non-controversial. Republicans didn’t know what was in Sarbanes-Oxley or TARP when they voted “yea,” either. The powers-that-be wrote them (the accounting lobby in the case of Sarbanes-Oxley, and the Fed and Treasury in the case of TARP), and yes votes were both expected and received.

The Faux Nomination Process (Politics as Usual)

Everyone knows Romney (D-Mass.) was the pre-selected candidate, but the campaign hasn’t gone according to script. There was only supposed to be token resistance to perpetuate the illusion that the rank-and-file actually plays a role in the nomination process. And as soon as he started feeling the pressure, he immediately went negative because he has no positive message to run on. “I promise to take your tax dollars and give them to my campaign donors” isn’t a smash hit with voters.

(Note that Gary Johnson ran zero negative ads in his two campaigns for Governor, although I cannot promise that he will do the same during this election cycle. I will also admit that this article will probably make him uncomfortable if he reads it. After all, I’m not only going negative on Romney (D-Mass.), I’m going negative on the entire corrupt Republican Party.)

So far I have nailed the Governor-who-never-calls-himself-Governor’s campaign perfectly, and I I’m going to tell you how the so-called ObamaCare “repeal” will go down if the bill survives the Supreme Court and he is elected.

I said that during his campaign he would shift his rhetoric to the right during the primaries only as far as necessary to secure the nomination. Check. Next he would shift to the center to win in November. His campaign has admitted that is their strategy. Check. He will then govern to the left as he “works with” Democrats like he did as Governor. He has promised it on the campaign trail. Check. Anyone who thinks this man has a conservative bone in his body has fallen for this used car salesman’s pitch hook, line, and sinker. Not that it matters, because he’s not going to Washington to lead; he’s going there to take orders.

Romney (D-Mass.) is the establishment’s choice because he stands for nothing.

Repeal ObamaCare? Not a Chance.

Romney (D-Mass.) keeps saying he will repeal ObamaCare, but I hope no one is naïve enough to believe him. His donors stand to make BILLIONS because of the bill. They wrote ObamaCare, and now they’re funding his campaign! Do you think health insurance companies are going to allow him to repeal a bill that mandates that all Americans carry gold-plated insurance?

The ObamaCare “repeal” will go down like this: House Republicans will pass a repeal bill. Senate Democrats will block it. There will be lots of tense moments and sparring through the media as the White House and House straw men and -women wage a wink-and-a-nudge “battle” with the Democrats. Romney (D-Mass.) will concede defeat and blame the Democrats, who will claim victory. The Republicans will save face with their base by fighting the “good fight,” as will the Democrats.

Next, Romney (D-Mass.) will take charge of “fixing” it. Democrats will concede that it needs improvement. Campaign donors will draft “revisions” that will benefit the donors, and both parties will agree to those amendments. There will be some token resistance on certain provisions to keep America fleeced into thinking that we have a functioning Two-Party system.

This may come as a shock to Republican loyalists, but the Supreme Court is the last chance at repeal. Now that it’s in place, the Republican Party wants ObamaCare as badly as the Democratic Party. Modified, perhaps, but they still want it. They’re in control of way too much money to relinquish that control. There won’t be enough votes to repeal even if the GOP has a supermajority in the Senate.

(Trust me on this point—I have this information from a state-level insider.)

Reduce Spending? Not a Chance.

If you think Romney (D-Mass.) is going to reduce spending by any appreciable degree, you’re not just sleeping; you’re in a coma. For example, he has said that if the safety net needs fixing he’ll fix it. He has no intention of reducing welfare or other entitlements. If anything he will expand them like George W. Bush.

Will he cut defense spending? Not a chance. Will he seriously tackle Medicare or Social Security reform? He might have the political capital to trim around the margins on one, but certainly not both. What about other discretionary spending? Again, maybe a little nibble on the edges.

Do not forget that the “draconian” Ryan plan merely trims the ten-year deficit from $10 trillion to $8 trillion. That’s the starting point, and Senate Democrats hold the power to block any cuts. Romney (D-Mass.) intends to broker a deal between the Ryan plan and the current path, which means most of the ideas in the Ryan plan will not be implemented because the Republican machine wants to control the money!

Because of rising health care costs (which ObamaCare will worsen), rising interest expenses, and rising entitlement spending due to the Baby Boom retirement, spending will increase under either Obama or Romney (D-Mass.). Any difference between them will be a fraction of a percent.

And, if Romney (D-Mass.) is as much of a war hawk as he is portraying himself to be, spending could easily be higher than a second term of Obama if he launches another war somewhere.

So keep your eyes open. Romney (D-Mass.) has not been chosen because he will reduce spending. He has been chosen to distribute it differently.

(Also, I hope none of you fell for the “cut-cap-balance” nonsense. That was political theater to fool fiscal conservatives. It would never have passed the House if there was any sincere belief it would have passed the Senate and been signed by the president. The driver of the GOP auto (the big donors) would have pulled the plug on it if it was a serious threat.)

Is the Tea Party Dead?

Anecdotally, the Tea Party is nowhere near the force it was in 2010. There have been few primary battles pitting a Tea Party conservative or libertarian against an establishment candidate that have received national coverage. Part of it is because it is a presidential election year, and Obama is so deservedly despised by Tea Party folks. Unfortunately, many Tea Partiers have climbed back in bed with the GOP and have fallen back asleep. The Tea Party is still holding their officials’ feet to the fire, but the fire has dwindled to coals. That is bad news. By and large they have been seduced into playing a losing game.

At the Libertarian Party of Ohio’s State Convention last weekend, Nick Gillespie of Reason.tv began his speech with a picture of former Delaware Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell. It was from her high school years, and she had on a ladybug costume, and it was one of the ones the media used to smear her.

I agree with Nick Gillespie that Christine O’Donnell was exactly the kind of candidate this country needs because she would have challenged the machine and been something other than a hood ornament. Many Republi-zombies complain that it was a winnable seat, and they should have nominated more moderate Mike Castle. No, no, no! It is the Mike Castles of the world that have gotten us into the mess we’re in. Picking a bobble-head because they have the correct letter beside their name will do nothing to clean up the mess.

But even if O’Donnell had won, it would still take dozens of years and hundreds of other victories to get enough politicians in place to evict the rascals who control the machine, as well as a total restructuring of the Party. That’s not going to happen. It is the Republican Party that needs evicted.

The lack of any Christine O’Donnells or Sharon Angles (or Rand Pauls or Marco Rubios) in this cycle tells me I was correct when I expected the GOP machine would work hard to destroy Tea Party insurgents before their campaigns saw the light of day. And many Tea Partiers are to blame for joining with an organization that hates them but will gladly take their money and votes.

The Vice President

Some see a ray of hope for the GOP. There is a lot of talk about Marco Rubio or possibly even Rand Paul receiving the VP nomination. I concede that a Rubio or Paul nomination would be a positive sign that the establishment still fears the conservative wing of the Party. I also concede that Rubio would be harder to smear than Sarah Palin was, but the media would undoubtedly break out some of Paul’s missteps he made during his Senate campaign.

But, do not let your eyes close if Rubio gets the VP nod. Do not fall for the head fake. Keep your eyes open and on the machine. The establishment may like his ethnicity, but they despise his fiscal conservatism. Undoubtedly they would like to get into his head and reprogram him into an establishmentarian. And as an actual VP the machine will keep him out of the public eye as much as possible. (They will also be thrilled to get him off the Senate floor.)

But what about President Rubio? Wouldn’t a Romney (D-Mass.)/Rubio ticket pave the way to the White House for him? Maybe. But being Vice President doesn’t assure that you will be the nominee. Unless a decade in Washington (2 years as Senator, plus 8 as VP) turns him into an establishmentarian Republibot, the GOP will back a more compliant candidate.

Do you think the GOP machine wouldn’t turn on an incumbent? Think again. Here in Ohio, Governor John Kasich is doing a pretty good job, but he wasn’t the establishment’s guy. Like Scott Walker in Wisconsin, Kasich wasn’t supposed to happen. Thus, what should have been an easy win over Ted Strickland turned into a down-to-the-wire nail biter, because neither the state nor national party gave him more than token support.

And now that he’s in office “the machine” has turned on him. The behind-the-doors battle between Kasich and the establishment has become public, and it is pretty clear he will face a primary battle, probably from Secretary of State John Husted. Isn’t it funny that the GOP despises when conservative candidates challenge establishment incumbents, but feels no remorse about challenging a conservative incumbent with an establishmentarian?

And have no fear, it’s almost certain a Democrat will win the 2014 Ohio gubernatorial race. Way to go GOP! A Democrat is better than a conservative, no? After all, Democrats know how to play the game called “governance.”

So keep your eyes open and don’t get too excited if a conservative like Marco Rubio gets the VP nomination. The Party doesn’t want him, and unless he learns to play suck-up to the money men, he will not make it to the White House as a Republican. The establishment will destroy him if he tries.

“Anybody But Obama”— The Most Dangerous Three Words in America Today

If you’ve followed me so far and still have your eyes open, you can understand why these words are so dangerous—and so powerful. This is a call for you to close you eyes and mindlessly pull the lever for Romney (D-Mass.). It is the machine as a hypnotist. “Now close you eyes . . . you’re getting sleepy . . . sleepy.”

Many say that the nation won’t survive a second term of Obama. I have been one of his harshest critics of him from the get-go. I warned people throughout the 2008 campaign that he would be a disaster, and he has not disappointed.

But, how bad his second term might be is overblown, and a lot of it is Republican establishment bluster to intimidate conservatives into accepting their puppet-candidate. Yes, he drives me crazy with his incessant ranting and lying. But the GOP has him effectively neutered legislatively, so there is little for him to do there. I agree that he can still do damage on the regulatory side, but the country can probably limp through four more years.

The second problem with the “Anybody but Obama” argument is that not only is the threat of a second term of Obama overblown, the benefit of a first term of Romney (D-Mass.) has also been greatly exaggerated. As I’ve already discussed, he is not going to repeal ObamaCare. He is not going to reduce spending to a significant degree, and may spend more than Obama with divided leadership. He may back off some EPA regulations, but only if his money men demand it. He will add regulations if his donors request them. Let’s not forget that it was George W. Bush who teed up the era of regulators-gone-wild, and Romney will keep it up.

Romney (D-Mass.) will be little different than Obama because that’s how the Republican Party wants it. There is a very big pie to dish out, and the GOP wants control of the spatula, not to shrink the size of the pie. Worse, we could potentially have eight years of Romney (D-Mass.). If your eyes are open to what he’s about to do to us, that’s a more frightening prospect than one more term of Obama!

Conclusion: What to Do

It should be perfectly clear that I am advocating that conservatives and libertarians abandon the GOP. As a card-carrying Libertarian working on the Gary Johnson campaign, naturally I hope you join us. But I want to make clear that I did not write this highly negative piece just to attract voters to the LP, although I certainly hope it has that effect. I wrote this lengthy article because what I have written is true. I knew it intuitively when I left the GOP, and now that I have spent time with current and former GOP insiders, my gut feeling that the GOP is unredeemable has been confirmed. The Republican machine has been built so it cannot be destroyed at the ballot box.

So if you vote on principal as I do, you probably have already decided against voting for Romney (D-Mass.). Perhaps you will choose Johnson or whoever emerges from the Americans Elect process. Perhaps you will stay home. Any are superior to voting for the Governor-ashamed-to-call-himself-Governor.

If you are a strategic voter, the calculus is different, and it depends on what message you want to send. If you think Gary Johnson has a chance, you should join me, because he’s the only fiscal conservative who will be on the ballot. It certainly would be an effective protest vote. But if you still believe the Republican Party can be saved, nothing would send a better message to the GOP that it need to stop nominating center-left puppets by voting for Obama.

Let’s face it, a Romney (D-Mass.) v. Obama matchup is by far the worst offering from the two major Parties since the weak-president era of the Gilded Age in the late 1800s. This is a shame because Gary Johnson is the best candidate to appear on a presidential ballot in a long, long time. (He is the LP’s presumptive nominee, garnering 80-90% of the vote in straw polls at state conventions.) Perhaps between now and then he will get the traction to make it a competitive battle.

But I am urging conservatives and libertarians: DO NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY (D-MASS.)! You will be assisting the corrupt machine that despises you, and you will be helping to install a puppet who will ensure that conservatism is kept in check at the federal level. You will be voting against everything you hold dear.

Vote for Obama to kick the GOP in the crotch. Vote for Governor Johnson because you think he’s most qualified. Skip the presidential ballot entirely when you vote in November. Any of these decisions is superior to voting for Romney (D-Mass.)

Just don’t vote for Romney (D-Mass.), the hood ornament of the Republican spending machine. You will regret it.

As for me, you can rest assured that I will not. And if one of the Big 2 candidates wins in November, I will wake up on Wednesday morning with a smile, knowing it wasn’t my fault.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; garyjohnson; gop; libertarianparty; libertarians; mittromney; romney; romney2012; romneytruthfile; whytheycallitdope
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To: xzins

That is not terse, that is logorrhea.


51 posted on 05/16/2012 3:17:29 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: kosciusko51

Plus the other good thing, is that we’ll get to see the liberals gnash their teeth, which is always good entertainment. And that Kenyan SOB is going to lose that smug look on his face if he loses.


52 posted on 05/16/2012 3:17:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: xzins

I’m voting Romney and you can kiss my azz.


53 posted on 05/16/2012 3:18:42 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: xzins
I will wake up on Wednesday morning with a smile, knowing it wasn’t my fault.

Well allrigty then.

54 posted on 05/16/2012 3:18:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: luvbach1

They’re just overwrought about Obama. I hold no ill will toward my fellow FReepers with a pro-Romney bent.

I wish they would read the article, though. It’s about the monolithic GOP, a monstrosity that, if the record could be checked, most of them have bitterly denounced at least a few times this past year.


55 posted on 05/16/2012 3:19:06 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: tomkat; GeronL; dfwgator
Salve. Whom do you think is good? [Romanian native > ESL] I don't like Mulato, that is the truth!!!
56 posted on 05/16/2012 3:19:20 PM PDT by MCSP2008
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To: xzins

the Party’s utter lack of principle and inability to nominate respectable candidates.
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Well theyre doing it again in 2012...

Willard Mitt Romney...GOP-e Poster Boy


57 posted on 05/16/2012 3:21:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: xzins

I’m voting against Obama, his czars, judicial appointments,executive orders, race-baiting and everything else this commie stands for. Nothing good has come from the Obama experiment. I’ll vote Romney and I won’t need to pinch my nose. NOTHING can be worse that what we have right now.


58 posted on 05/16/2012 3:21:25 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: unkus
you can kiss my azz.

Nope, that would be one of the gay couples that Romney supports giving helpless adoptive children to.

59 posted on 05/16/2012 3:21:48 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: xzins
This is an extremely point to understand

Are you series? This is hugh.

60 posted on 05/16/2012 3:22:11 PM PDT by BRL
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To: xzins

Romeny DID NOT say he will repeal Obamacare- only “the more onerous parts of it”

That is a DIRECT QUOTE from Romney on Hannity’s Show- even Hannity missed the weasel words as if he didn’t hear them


61 posted on 05/16/2012 3:22:13 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: M. Thatcher; xzins

He did not write it. It still is not even the same county as “terse”.


62 posted on 05/16/2012 3:22:37 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Tennessee Nana

Amen, TN. Gosh, I wish everyone were as clear-thinking as you.


63 posted on 05/16/2012 3:22:48 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: nascarnation

Millions of people will definitely support/ campaign for any foreseeable candidate the R party wishes to nominate (including Gov. Romney) if the alternative remains Bho (or Hillary).


64 posted on 05/16/2012 3:22:59 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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To: xzins

When the Constitution Party gets one congressman elected from one district in one state, then we can discuss who they have nominated for president. Until then, it is a wasted vote. There may be a need for a new 2nd party, but it isn’t going to happen in the next six months. Voting for anyone except Romney is voting for a second Obama term.


65 posted on 05/16/2012 3:23:23 PM PDT by BruceS (If you refuse to support the lesser of two evils, then you are supporting the greater of two evils.)
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To: NathanR

Like I said, I did not write it.


66 posted on 05/16/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: goseminoles
I am voting GOP Across the board (to make sure the GOP controls congress) EXCEPT FOR ROMNEY

I'm writing in Palin/Gingrich

67 posted on 05/16/2012 3:23:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in Palin/Gingrich)
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To: xzins
I don't like Romney. I truly wish there were a viable alternative. Sadly, there isn't. I gave money to both Cain and Newt. It galls me to have to be forced to vote for a younger McCain... but, damn it – I will for him for one reason: Obama needs to go. As bad as Romney may be, he is still better than the current occupier of the white house.
68 posted on 05/16/2012 3:24:29 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: xzins

I’ve already read #34. So why not answer how you propose to remove the criminal and his thuggery? ... Oh, that’s right, you aren’t planning on removing him. You believe the Republic will survive four more years of this abortion. I do not believe it will.


69 posted on 05/16/2012 3:24:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: KansasGirl
Romney will be the only alternative to another for years of Obama on the ballot in November.

Good point, Romney IS a teensy weensy bit better than 0bama, however even candidate 0bama was better than President 0bama is.

70 posted on 05/16/2012 3:25:13 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins
"Nope, that would be one of the gay couples that Romney supports giving helpless adoptive children to."

Romney referred to sodomites who want to adopt children as "people who love each other." Absolutely sickening and proof that he has no moral compass.

As badly as Obama needs to go, as much as I want him out, I will not vote for a liberal abortion enabler and homosexual lover to accomplish that.

71 posted on 05/16/2012 3:25:58 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Kansas58
You are absurd.

The Club for Growth
The National Right to Life Committee
The NRA
All former GOP Primary Candidates.
Every elected Republican -—

Will endorse Romney for President.

Principles? What the devil are those?

Fixed if for ya. But? You are smarter than all of these people, aren’t you?

72 posted on 05/16/2012 3:26:02 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: xzins

Nope, that would be one of the gay couples that Romney supports giving helpless adoptive children to.


Nice try. Won’t work. Bye bye.


73 posted on 05/16/2012 3:26:27 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: muawiyah

Sure, for 2016. If we are so lucky. All the “real” candidates have given up. I don’t call third party candidates like Goode as “real”. (The next president will be either a Republican or a Democrat)


74 posted on 05/16/2012 3:26:52 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Mr. K
I am voting GOP Across the board (to make sure the GOP controls congress) EXCEPT FOR ROMNEY I'm writing in Palin/Gingrich

Not that your single vote will matter all that much, but you may as well vote for obama if you do that. I am disgusted as well.

75 posted on 05/16/2012 3:27:11 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: xzins

You are, of course, absolutely right.

And you will, of course, be absolutely ignored by the majority of the fake “conservatives” around here.


76 posted on 05/16/2012 3:27:19 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: xzins
Second, you cannot “take over” the Republican machine and turn it into something in decent....

This is exactly what the so-called "e" want people to believe. The 'machine' is a business and has the same need of any business, profit and customers (not necessarily in that order). We can't do a thing about any political machine until one wakes up and realizes this simple fact. Businesses can be manipulated by customers if the customers so choose. As long as we keep looking at it as just some smokey back-room cabal with no ends or means other than power, we can't do a thing. If we think of them as a business and focus accordingly, we can influence them.

Of course, we can't do a damn thing if we don't have power first. If we don't have that, we are nothing more than coffee-shop philosophers.

In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.- Winston Churchill

77 posted on 05/16/2012 3:27:34 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mr. K
I'm writing in Palin/Gingrich

Virgil Goode is a decent conservative and is a candidate too.

78 posted on 05/16/2012 3:28:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins

So if not voting, wasting your vote on a third party candidate is the way to go, one might as well give up on the political process and hunker down or leave the country.
Obama will destroy the republic and it will never be restored. If you feel that Romney and Obama are equally bad, fine. But instead of exhorting people not to vote for Romney, spend your efforts on a prepper post or ways to escape the US.


79 posted on 05/16/2012 3:28:56 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: Mr. K

Congress is the key. As much as I hate to say it, even the Clinton years were prosperous with a conservative house and senate. I write in is a wasted vote. We need to get this assclown out of the WH. I don’t care if Pee Wee Herman is the R nominee. At least Romney has a verifiable past.


80 posted on 05/16/2012 3:29:31 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Jeff Head

Wow. You’re right, that says it all.


81 posted on 05/16/2012 3:31:16 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: xzins
Nope, that would be one of the gay couples that Romney supports giving helpless adoptive children to.

Last time I read Article 2, Section 2 of the US Constitution, the President doesn't have the power over that. He can talk all he wants, but it doesn't make it legislatively so. It is Congress's job. The job description of the President of the United States is as follows:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.


82 posted on 05/16/2012 3:32:47 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks Jeff.


83 posted on 05/16/2012 3:33:15 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: muawiyah

My man the Hermanator went for Mitty so I guess I’m gonna hold my nose and do it.


84 posted on 05/16/2012 3:33:27 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: xzins
Democrat psyops.

-PJ

85 posted on 05/16/2012 3:33:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: muawiyah
We have plenty of time left to get a real candidate.

True, and with all the "I'm voting for Romney (PERIOD)" going on I have yet to hear 1 single reason why, as a conservative, I should vote for him other than "he's not 0bama".

86 posted on 05/16/2012 3:33:37 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins
I read this jibberish. You need help. Get some.

This wonderful nation cannot stand another Obama term.

Romney is not my choice, but with a conservative house and a senate with enough conservatives, we can “Romney Proof” Washington.

Go ahead and run and hide and leave the heavy work to those who love this country.

87 posted on 05/16/2012 3:34:20 PM PDT by Tripoli
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To: xzins

Politics is a team sport.

My son did not make the school team, but I take him to the games and cheer on the team anyway.

I have always said that Obama is so evil that I will vote for anyone the RNC puts forward.


88 posted on 05/16/2012 3:34:23 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: xzins

The writer of this article may have had a bad experience with his state GOP party, but here in Wisconsin we conservatives like and have influence in our state GOP party.

The GOP nationally is more than than the RNC and some RINO candidates, it also is a lot of state and county parties and individuals who respect American conservative political and family values. A lot of us did not have Romney as our first choice, but will go for him in November as Obama must be stopped. We will then hold Romney’s and our elected GOP reprs. feet to the fire to shift and hold them to the right course to save our country for our selves and our kids.


89 posted on 05/16/2012 3:34:37 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: xzins
No. You have chosen defiance.


90 posted on 05/16/2012 3:35:19 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Jeff Head

Well said!


91 posted on 05/16/2012 3:35:48 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: xzins
"Vote for Obama" and "The Democratic party isn't quite so bad"?

Say no more.

92 posted on 05/16/2012 3:36:31 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Jeff Head
Vote for Obama to kick the GOP in the crotch.

Jeff, I just noticed the author's facebook page. He isn't a Conservative Republican, but a moderate Libertairan Gary Johnson supporter.

Sneaky devil trying to pimp Obama...

Ted Lacksonen

93 posted on 05/16/2012 3:36:31 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: goseminoles

100000%....

“Anybody But Obama”— The Most Dangerous Three Words in America Today

sitting by and watching ayatollah obama get re-elected is 2X as dangerous...


94 posted on 05/16/2012 3:37:07 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: xzins

It’s clear the author of this piece has an agenda. Congress will repeal Obamacare theough reconciliation same way it was passed. Romney will sign it if he wants any chance at re-election.


95 posted on 05/16/2012 3:37:26 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
LOL!
96 posted on 05/16/2012 3:37:28 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: CatherineofAragon

Romney referred to sodomites who want to adopt children as “people who love each other.” Absolutely sickening and proof that he has no moral compass.
___________________________________________

Got a source for that ???

Some RomneyBots want some proof their darlin’ boy would actually say something so Barry....


97 posted on 05/16/2012 3:37:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: KansasGirl

Check out the link at 93, agenda noted. Gary Johnson guy.. Not a Conservative Republican who is frustrated like he claims to be in the article.


98 posted on 05/16/2012 3:38:32 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: nascarnation
Obama is making the USA a weak country.... He has taken away our freedom's and left us in a psychological mess worldwide... the debt is staggering.....
Romney is a million times better.... we are making strides look at Sara Palin’s races she working on the Tea Party's
victory over Hatch and Luger.... 4 more years of Obama you won't have to worry about the Republican party because he'll find away to ban the party.....
99 posted on 05/16/2012 3:39:00 PM PDT by pasr (You are crazy,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: mnehring

Good dig! Very revealing of the agenda hiding behind this article.


100 posted on 05/16/2012 3:39:55 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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