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Trayvon Martin killed by single gunshot fired from 'intermediate range,' autopsy shows
NBC News and msnbc.com ^ | May 16, 2012

Posted on 05/16/2012 4:49:58 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Florida teenager Trayvon Martin died from a single gunshot wound to the chest fired from “intermediate range,” according to an autopsy report reviewed Wednesday by NBC News.

The official report, prepared by the medical examiner in Volusia County, Fla., also found that the 17-year-old Martin had one other fresh injury – a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size – on his left ring finger below the knuckle.

Separately, a medical report on Martin’s alleged killer, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, prepared by his personal physician the day after Martin’s shooting in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, found that the Neighborhood Watch volunteer suffered a likely broken nose, swelling, two black eyes and cuts to the scalp. That report, first reported Tuesday by ABC News, also was reviewed by NBC News.

Both documents are part of a mountain of evidence – up to 300 pages and 67 CDs of witness statements, surveillance videos and other material-- expected to be made public soon in connection with the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanevidence; zimmermaninjuries
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1 posted on 05/16/2012 4:50:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’s intermediate range? 3 inches??


2 posted on 05/16/2012 4:53:00 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What does intermediate range mean?


3 posted on 05/16/2012 4:54:30 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When are we going to tell the treason filled, communists Demorats to get Ficked and serve their Prison Time for trying to Destroy AMERICA!!!


4 posted on 05/16/2012 4:55:43 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Florida teenager Trayvon Martin died from a single gunshot wound to the chest fired from “intermediate range,”

Someone not know how to spell "indeterminate"?
5 posted on 05/16/2012 4:58:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just a guess but intermediate range may mean no evidence of muzzle to flesh contact. There may be some powder residue on Trevon.


6 posted on 05/16/2012 4:59:16 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not knowing any details, it could mean that Mr. Zimmerman was atle to generate enough distance to clear the weapon and place a round. It doesn’t take much, couple yards and there is still marks made by powder and carbon. Much beyond 3 yards, the marking goes way down.


7 posted on 05/16/2012 5:02:39 PM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BOR!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Trayvon’s case looks weaker and weaker. Meanwhile his mother who is on the public payroll working for the City of Miami...She got 40 weeks of vacation time donated to her by her fellow employees. To spend her time gallivanting about America pressing Trayvon’s non-existent case. What a joke.


8 posted on 05/16/2012 5:03:24 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Cindy Sheehan....now in black.


9 posted on 05/16/2012 5:07:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m guessing stippling on the hoodie, but not much around the wound. 2-5 feet. Whatever the high number on the estimate is, that’s the only figure the MSM will focus on.


10 posted on 05/16/2012 5:13:35 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Nice shootin Georgie! Be efficient with your rounds. Never know when 20 or 30 of Holder’s people will surround you.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 5:13:43 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Weasel word 'intermediate' entirely consistent with the thug punk being perforated in the middle of another backswing preparatory to Z bein' hammered again.
12 posted on 05/16/2012 5:15:23 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: dfwgator

ROFLOL!


13 posted on 05/16/2012 5:15:31 PM PDT by fanfan (.http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/index.php?p=1_50_Your-Rights)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/

“Gunshot wounds can be classified based on the range from the muzzle of the gun to the target. These classifications include contact, near-contact, intermediate, and distant wounds.”

“...In near-contact wounds, the muzzle is not in contact with the skin, but is very close. In this case, the powder grains do not have a chance to disperse and leave a powder tattooing. The entrance wound is surrounded by a wide zone of powder soot, and seared, blackened skin. In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound.”

“The passage of a bullet through clothing can alter the appearance of the wound and cause the examiner to reach different conclusions regarding factors such as the range of the gunshot. When there is clothing between the firearm and the skin, you will not find soot and powder on the skin, and searing is lessened or can be prevented. Therefore, the usual methods of determining the distance of the shooter from the victim cannot be used. Whether the powder passes through the clothing depends on the material, the number of layers of clothing, and the form of the powder. Ball powder can penetrate up to three layers of clothing, while flake powder may fail to penetrate a single layer.

“Gunshot wounds through clothing can be telling, however, in that they can help determine the physical position the victim was in when he or she was shot. By lining up the holes in the clothing with the entrance and exit wounds, it can be determined whether the victim was sitting, standing, slouched, or in another position.”


14 posted on 05/16/2012 5:15:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: dfwgator

I wonder if Al Sharpton is still taking mama Trayvon’s phone calls. Rev Sharpton got into the racial farce business with the Tawana Brawley case and by inciting the burning down of Feddie’s Fashion Mart and the Crown Heights riots


15 posted on 05/16/2012 5:17:25 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: aruanan
That was my first thought, too.

-PJ

16 posted on 05/16/2012 5:19:14 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good info... Thanks


17 posted on 05/16/2012 5:19:39 PM PDT by tje
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Thanks for looking up what “intermediate range” means.


18 posted on 05/16/2012 5:23:44 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: goseminoles; SaraJohnson
What’s intermediate range?

It's a statement they can back up with the science.

You can get gunshot powder residue on the victim without muzzle contact evidence from about 3 inches to about 9 feet with medium handguns.

The tech will surely spend a lot of time on the stand describing specific distances and the technological limits of the equipment.

George's attorney will present an independent expert that will testify that the residue found indeed could be deposited at 6 inches to a foot in distance.

19 posted on 05/16/2012 5:27:51 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: goseminoles

Forensic defines it as nearly touching the skin to up to 3 feet away.


20 posted on 05/16/2012 5:29:43 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is NO DOUBT NBC ran with this headline “intermediate” rather than make the statement he was killed with a near contact with the skin shot. My first read on this, and I am a gun owner, shooter, etc. was that sounds like 3 feet or more... Well guess what; it is anywhere from a centimeter from the skin to up to a small distance away, such as a couple feet.


21 posted on 05/16/2012 5:32:36 PM PDT by dewawi
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The lead investigator already testified under oath that the shot was at very close range...


22 posted on 05/16/2012 5:32:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: petro45acp

Anything further than two feet, the powder won’t be on the body, not nearly as much as if it’s closer than feet.


23 posted on 05/16/2012 5:34:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Gilbreath confirmed that the fatal gunshot was at close range; he said there was powder residue and “stippling” on Martin’s body.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/20/george-zimmerman-released-on-150-000-bail-sorry-for-trayvon-s-loss.html


24 posted on 05/16/2012 5:35:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: SaraJohnson
What does intermediate range mean?

Pretty damn close but nebulous in its statement to allow the authorities and the MSM to give the impression that it was far away and allow the ignorant readership to believe it.

25 posted on 05/16/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing.

So intermediate range includes very close ranges, just not so close that the muzzle is up against the skin. This seems consistent with Zimmerman's account.

26 posted on 05/16/2012 5:40:36 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: petro45acp
In forensics terminology:
In near-contact wounds, the muzzle is not in contact with the skin, but is very close. In this case, the powder grains do not have a chance to disperse and leave a powder tattooing. The entrance wound is surrounded by a wide zone of powder soot, and seared, blackened skin. In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound. Finally, distant gunshot wounds leave no marks other than those produced by the bullet perforating the skin.
Of course, the MSM won't define the term, thus leading the viewer to think that "intermediate range" is between 7 and 50 yards. Zimmerman most likely fired with the muzzle within inches of Martin.
27 posted on 05/16/2012 5:40:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The story also reports an “evolving” version of the knuckle injuries. It’s not clear whether this is a new bruise, or a different description from the one heard about yesterday.


28 posted on 05/16/2012 5:49:54 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
IMHO, you left off the most important part of this article, the first sentence:That's news. The rest of this is pretty much a rehash.
29 posted on 05/16/2012 5:58:02 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: upchuck

And the next statement will announce a lawsuit against ALL parties who have tried to use this case to create a racial war for their own purposes. Jackson, Sharpton, NBBP, and Zero to count a few...


30 posted on 05/16/2012 6:05:34 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Quote from the article. Zimmerman is white (still? again?)

"But after questions about possible racial motivation for the slaying – Martin was black; Zimmerman is a white man of Hispanic heritage – a special prosecutor took over the case and, on April 11, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder."

31 posted on 05/16/2012 6:14:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: goseminoles

If George Zimmerman just pulled the gun out of his pocket, and fired it close to his chest, that could be as far as a foot in terms of from where it was fired to the entry.


32 posted on 05/16/2012 6:16:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Makes sense to me. If you’re in close combat with a handgun involved you’re most likely using your off arm to hold off your opponent while drawing and firing from arms length. You certainly don’t want to extend your arm so your opponent can take the gun away and use it on you. Even if that would get a “close range” comment from the coroner.


33 posted on 05/16/2012 6:28:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: jwalsh07

We owe GZ thanks.


34 posted on 05/16/2012 6:34:30 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: goseminoles

Bingo.

THis is from CBS:

Details from Trayvon Martin’s autopsy show the bullet entered the left side of his chest, and shattered the ventrical, one of his heart’s two large chambers but the round did not leave his body.

The reports also noted the fatal wound’s surrounded by a two-by-two inch pattern called stippling, caused by gunpower burns. It suggests Zimmerman fired *inches* away from the teenager.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57435800/zimmerman-martins-last-words-were-its-over/


35 posted on 05/16/2012 6:35:54 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for the gouge, and thank you VERY much for the link! That is going to be a well used site.

Having put some rounds into targets with tshirts over them, one can almost tell which distance each shot was taken from. Caliber differences gave varied results also.

Love that physics stuff!
Cheers


36 posted on 05/16/2012 6:45:20 PM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BOR!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A water repellant hoodie is probably reasonably resistant to powder penetration.


37 posted on 05/16/2012 6:52:20 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: PapaBear3625

My bet is you will come out being correct, that Zim fired from inches away while Treyvon was wailing on him and maybe grabbing for Zim’s gun which seems unimpressive

http://bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20120515george_zimmermans_gun_kel-tec_9_mm_designed_for_self-defense


38 posted on 05/16/2012 7:12:30 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ansel12
Zimmerman is a white man of Hispanic heritage <<

and Obama is a white man of African heritage...

39 posted on 05/16/2012 7:14:48 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I want to know how a 9mm, even out of a Keltec from just a few inches away, doesn’t exit the body.


40 posted on 05/16/2012 7:21:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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To: dewawi

Thanks for your response. Hence, the inquiry. I think distance will be a make or break for this case. It will be a forensic case...


41 posted on 05/16/2012 7:26:28 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: PapaBear3625

I read somewhere shortly after this all broke that the only shell casing found at the seen was still in the gun. This means the gun did not cycle, slide did not move enough to eject the fired case. Who held the slide, or was it just a bad round that killed Travon?


42 posted on 05/16/2012 7:37:20 PM PDT by dsammons
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To: VeniVidiVici
“I want to know how a 9mm, even out of a Keltec from just a few inches away, doesn’t exit the body.”

There could be several reasons:
Great bullet design.
The bullet path is along the long axis of the body rather than straight front to back.
Great bullet design, etc.

43 posted on 05/16/2012 7:38:56 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I want to know how a 9mm, even out of a Keltec from just a few inches away, doesn’t exit the body.

a very nice expanding round, going through layered clothing, maybe hitting his sternum or rib and just expanding and dissipating energy as it's cutting through some blood vessels.

Or something similar to that.

44 posted on 05/16/2012 7:52:19 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: goseminoles
............. think distance will be a make or break for this case..................Probably right!

Of course if the punk was pounding Zim’s head into the walkway, he would have been doing it straight arm, not huddled over Zim.

So that puts his torso above Zim by a foot or more, a bullet goes through Zims clothes, through punk hoodie and clothes, maybe even through a pack of “skittles” and takes punk out. Bullet didn't have the velocity to make it through punk's body, maybe because of so many impediments in the way.

Perhaps we should channel JFK to find out the trajectory of the magic bullet that took him down.

45 posted on 05/16/2012 7:57:02 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger; Dick Vomer
Here is a pretty decent ballistic chart for a Keltec P-11. His comment on the FMJ round at the bottom is pretty funny.
46 posted on 05/16/2012 9:01:24 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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To: VeniVidiVici


I want to know how a 9mm, even out of a Keltec from just a few inches away, doesn’t exit the body.

Martin was fortified with Skittles.


47 posted on 05/16/2012 9:10:21 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Mr Rogers

I’ve seen that said earlier here, but nothing with a link, and nothing I could find. Do you have a source on that?


48 posted on 05/16/2012 9:20:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/20/george-zimmerman-released-on-150-000-bail-sorry-for-trayvon-s-loss.html


49 posted on 05/16/2012 9:27:18 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: Rastus
Martin was fortified with Skittles.

LOL!

50 posted on 05/16/2012 9:30:52 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well - Ogletree, Sharpton, Williams, Jackson)
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