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Zimmerman: Martin's last words were "it's over"
cbsnews.com ^ | May 16, 2012 | Mark Strassmann

Posted on 05/16/2012 6:17:49 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CBS News) SANFORD, Fla., - The trial of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with murdering Trayvon Martin is still months away, but the investigation continues.

CBS News correspondent Mark Strassmann has come up with new information about what happened that February night when Zimmerman shot the unarmed teenager in a gated community in Sanford, Florida.

At the heart of this case is what happened of the course of 90 seconds: from the moment Zimmerman hung up with a non-emergency dispatcher -- to the first 911 call from a neighbor.

Wednesday new details emerged from sources close to the investigation. A responder at the crime scene told CBS News that he and others saw wounds on the knuckles of one of Martin's hands as he lay dead on this lawn, suggesting Martin had thrown a punch.

Zimmerman told police he fired the shot at point blank range while on his back, as the 17-year-old straddled him.

He also told investigators Martin did not die immediately but mumbled either "it's over" or "you got me."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 05/16/2012 6:17:55 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

More like, “I’m gonna git yo punk ass”.


2 posted on 05/16/2012 6:20:49 PM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Martin did not die immediately but mumbled either “it’s over” or “you got me.”

In either case, he was dead on.


5 posted on 05/16/2012 6:23:49 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: crosshairs

Or, “I guess there is a ‘LIMIT’ after all...”


6 posted on 05/16/2012 6:24:13 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Free ThinkerNY
gurgurgurg...

more/less

7 posted on 05/16/2012 6:24:46 PM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
you got me

sounds like he watched too many cops-and-robbers movies.

8 posted on 05/16/2012 6:28:15 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The ME's report said that the shot was from an intermediate range...Now what the hell would that be??

He does know what real numbers are, right??

9 posted on 05/16/2012 6:28:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h57UR-oIE_g


10 posted on 05/16/2012 6:29:30 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMc263klrMQ


11 posted on 05/16/2012 6:30:25 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Zimmerman will not get a fair trial. That is for sure.


12 posted on 05/16/2012 6:30:30 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Zimmerman told police he fired the shot at point blank range while on his back, as the 17-year-old straddled him.

The race-baters will be screaming 'bout this. "Zimmerman trapped Trayvon! He didn't give him no chance to run!"

I would think that such a scenario would cause secondary evidence such as powder marks, bullet-path evidence, wound location and so forth that would be unique and impossible to explain away as anything but what Mr. Zimmerman has stated.

13 posted on 05/16/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Gator113

no no no he said “Help me Barack”


14 posted on 05/16/2012 6:31:06 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

ABC enhanced martin’s last words, they were...yo cracker I no fool yo, ya got me?


15 posted on 05/16/2012 6:31:45 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Tzar

I just saw a photo of Martin in his hoodie and the smiling Zimmerman picture at the site.


16 posted on 05/16/2012 6:31:51 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought he said “Darn, ya got me...”


17 posted on 05/16/2012 6:32:43 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate pragmatists!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
OUTSTANDING!!!
18 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:07 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sacajaweau
The ME's report said that the shot was from an intermediate range...Now what the hell would that be??

Could mean "too far for powder burns, close enough that he couldn't miss."

19 posted on 05/16/2012 6:33:26 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: GeronL

>> no no no he said “Help me Barack”

or maybe “Help me daddy-O”

(well, same thing I guess)


20 posted on 05/16/2012 6:34:14 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

One of the conservative gals (Palin, Bachmann, Malkin etc) should get the twitter handle No_Limit_Mutha


22 posted on 05/16/2012 6:36:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course the DUmmies will bring out their pandering crying towels when they hear this, claiming that Trayvon was purely talking about his choir-boy, innocent life when he said “It’s over”, after he was “assaulted and murdered by that white racist”. (Gag)


23 posted on 05/16/2012 6:36:13 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: Steely Tom
No...the witness that photographed Zimmerman's head said there were powder burns on Tray's shirt.

Intermediate means a space in between....2", 10", 20"...There should be a real number to that...It can be tested.

24 posted on 05/16/2012 6:36:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nervous Tick

and then Trayvon was taken up to the Mothership...


25 posted on 05/16/2012 6:37:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: richmwill

I figured they would have Trayvon saying “It is finished” before his body ascended to heaven.


26 posted on 05/16/2012 6:38:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Poor Baby Trayvon...







...and the "White Hispanic" Monster that killed and ate him...
27 posted on 05/16/2012 6:39:44 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Para-Ord.45

funny


28 posted on 05/16/2012 6:40:16 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Guess he never got the chance to say “Ouch”?


29 posted on 05/16/2012 6:40:16 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: Sacajaweau

I know. What does that mean? Was Trayvon backing up? Z says he shot him from a position lying on his back with Trayvon straddling him? This piece does not fit.


30 posted on 05/16/2012 6:40:25 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tzar

I erred. Trayvon was in his hoodie, but it wasn’t the smiling picture of Zimmerman.


31 posted on 05/16/2012 6:40:25 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: IrishPennant

“Oh Fu...”


32 posted on 05/16/2012 6:40:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The leftists will spin this to mean that Zimmerman said “Go ahead punk, make my day!”


33 posted on 05/16/2012 6:41:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Sacajaweau

>> Intermediate means a space in between....2”, 10”, 20”...There should be a real number to that...It can be tested.

The best theory I’ve heard so far is that whoever reported on this incorrectly reported “intermediate” range, whereas the report actually says “indeterminate”.

Guess we’ll have to wait until the evidence is released to the public to know for sure.


34 posted on 05/16/2012 6:42:59 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

35 posted on 05/16/2012 6:43:50 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: GeronL

LOL...


36 posted on 05/16/2012 6:44:09 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: dfwgator
“Oh Fu...”

I like it...However, I think of George playing dentist to Dredvon..."Now this may hurt for just a second. Just say ouch if it does".

37 posted on 05/16/2012 6:44:20 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: yldstrk

It fits.....We have to be careful dealing with what we are told via the media and Tray’[s attorneys. It’s manipulation. Be patient.


38 posted on 05/16/2012 6:45:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: IrishPennant

Or as Bill Cosby put it, “First you say it, then you do it.”


39 posted on 05/16/2012 6:45:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sacajaweau

Then again... here’s a website on gunshot wound forensics that mentionsm but does not define, “intermediate distance”:

http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/

... so I guess the term “intermediate range” IS in common use.


40 posted on 05/16/2012 6:49:42 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The mentality suggesting that you can physically attack anyone who “disses” or upsets you started this mess.


41 posted on 05/16/2012 6:55:14 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Nervous Tick

http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distanceResults.htm


42 posted on 05/16/2012 6:58:48 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s OOOOOOOOVER.......que Roy Orbison.


43 posted on 05/16/2012 6:59:11 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: dfwgator

“Rose-b-u-u-u-u-u-d”


44 posted on 05/16/2012 7:01:45 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Tzar
It occurred to Martin that attacking an armed man was a very foolish idea.

Hunting is much less fun when the rabbit has a gun...

45 posted on 05/16/2012 7:01:54 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nervous Tick

It may be the trajectory that’s going to solve this for us. My thought is that Tray pulled back and Zimmerman took that moment to get the shot off. That would put Tray’s chest within the distance mentioned in that article I posted.


46 posted on 05/16/2012 7:03:02 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Intermediate means a space in between....2", 10", 20"...There should be a real number to that...It can be tested.

Yeah, I saw the "intermediate distance" thread after I posted to this one.

In that thread, they talked about how clothing that's penetrated by the bullet will stop much of the propellant residue from contacting the skin. We know only too well that Travon was wearing a hoodie. I got the impression that multiple layers of clothing would yield a lot of info to a ballistics expert. I'm sure that will come out in court.

I also expect Trayvon's family to hire an African-American ballistics expert who will say that the bullet and powder-burn evidence indicates that Trayvon was shot from a distance of five or six feet while Mr. Zimmerman stood over him screaming racial epithets, and that Trayvon begged for his life and told Zimmerman "Jesus loves you."

47 posted on 05/16/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom
The reports also noted the fatal wound's surrounded by a two-by-two inch pattern called stippling, caused by gunpower burns. It suggests Zimmerman fired inches away from the teenager.

Gunpowder burns are PDC---Pretty darn close.

48 posted on 05/16/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Martin's last words were "it's over"

Well, it's not.

49 posted on 05/16/2012 7:04:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Trayvon Martin suffered 8 injuries.. (on his knuckles)


50 posted on 05/16/2012 7:05:44 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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