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George Zimmerman: Will medical report help his case?
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | May 16, 2012 | Hal Boedeker

Posted on 05/16/2012 6:59:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What to make of the "ABC World News" report about George Zimmerman's injuries after shooting Trayvon Martin?

The TV analysts stepped in Tuesday night after ABC's Matt Gutman reported that Zimmerman's medical report showed the shooter had a broken nose, two black eyes and gashes on his head.

Zimmerman had refused to go to the hospital the night of the shooting, and his doctor treated him the next day, Gutman reported in his exclusive.

ABC's Dan Abrams said, "There's no question these documented injuries help Zimmerman's case, but the fundamental legal question remains: Who was the aggressor?"

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in Trayvon's death. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense.

Ben Crump, attorney for the Martin family, told CNN'sAnderson Cooper that Zimmerman's injuries needed to be put in full context. Crump highlighted that Zimmerman had neither a concussion nor stitches.

Trayvon Martin "didn't start this fight," Crump said.

But CNN's Jeffrey Toobin wanted to know how Crump knew that Zimmerman was the aggressor. Crump pointed to the 911 calls.

Crump said he "wanted everybody to wait until the full evidence comes out," even as he continued to blast Zimmerman....

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanevidence; zimmermaninjuries
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There's none so blind as those who will not see.
1 posted on 05/16/2012 6:59:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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Wow - we’ve actually sunk to a point where even in the face of proof people don’t believe it.

Another glorious day in Obamaland. :(


2 posted on 05/16/2012 7:04:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crump is about as stupid as a box of rocks.


3 posted on 05/16/2012 7:06:49 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Until this report showed up, nobody was saying that Z. jumped T. and began a brawl, and T. would have had to been eating magic Skittles if Z. had pointed a gun at him from a distance and T. had thought the best response was rushing Z. T. wasn’t shot in the back. And of course nobody in the case is bringing up “Stand Your Ground,” not the defense nor the persecution — it did not figure even hypothetically.


4 posted on 05/16/2012 7:06:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Tzimisce

This is a rather rarefied clump of people. The unwashed rabble is scoffing at this racist attack upon Z.


5 posted on 05/16/2012 7:08:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Help? No. It will end it.


6 posted on 05/16/2012 7:08:25 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: HiTech RedNeck
After Mr. Zimmerman collects Millions from NBC and Orlando Sentinel he will move to South America I wouldn't blame him.

I hope he sues the Black Panthers too

7 posted on 05/16/2012 7:10:03 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice try, libtard press.

If a video turns up that shows that Zimmerman was attacked unfairly, your next claim was that he didn’t 1) yell loud enough, 2) lie there and get beaten some more, etc, etc.

Keep it up. You’re trying to incite a race war, and congrats, you’re doing quite well. However, you libtards are going to be the ones in the middle of it.


8 posted on 05/16/2012 7:10:14 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s face it, at this point the “white hispanic” is being hunted.


9 posted on 05/16/2012 7:11:26 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
ABC's Dan Abrams said, "There's no question these documented injuries help Zimmerman's case, but the fundamental legal question remains: Who was the aggressor?"

Perhaps Zimmerman hit Trayvon on the knuckles with his eyes and his nose. Yeah, sure, that computes!

10 posted on 05/16/2012 7:12:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they probably won’t even look at it until after they’ve convicted him and hung him.


11 posted on 05/16/2012 7:14:01 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The damage to Martin’s knuckles was from Zimmerman assaulting his hands with his face.


12 posted on 05/16/2012 7:14:38 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the fundamental legal question remains: Who was the aggressor?"

Actually it is not a question since the fundamental legal presumption is that absent contrary evidence, Zimmerman is innocent.

13 posted on 05/16/2012 7:17:00 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Cicero

And, if Z. had blindsided T. instead of vice versa as Z. reported, wouldn’t we expect T. to have suffered more than bruised knuckles?

It’s like a joke my dad used to make. “Here,” (making a fist and holding it stationary in front of himself) “run your nose into this.”


15 posted on 05/16/2012 7:18:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Da Coyote

One way you can be be 100% certain the press is biased, they are incapable of saying oh, wait, here is new information and it looks like our original info was wrong.

IF they weren’t biased they would have big headlines, instead they bury news that conflicts with their stupid leftist agenda.

They can’t deal with the possibility that a black kid hit someone, or the “white” guy may not have been a racist murderer.


16 posted on 05/16/2012 7:19:39 PM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Williams

Maybe they can be let down easy by coming up with a violin song about oh how white society had failed Tray and driven him to impulsive brawling.


17 posted on 05/16/2012 7:22:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The prosecutor will spin Trayvon’s knuckle scrapes as defensive wounds from Zimmerman's head blows?
18 posted on 05/16/2012 7:22:24 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (O. M. G.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has a major legal firm yet taken up Mr. Zimmerman’s defense? I remember his first attorneys quitting, in a press conference, leaking information they shouldn’t have.


19 posted on 05/16/2012 7:22:48 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Crump said he "wanted everybody to wait until the full evidence comes out," even as he continued to blast Zimmerman....

You were on a roll, Crump, why wait now?

20 posted on 05/16/2012 7:25:36 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: scooby321

Does he really want a car like this?

21 posted on 05/16/2012 7:26:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: tbw2

Whoever it is, has been described by other freepers as competent. Maybe even a public defender or (in low density populated areas) an attorney reimbursed by the state. Some PDs are sharp if green; the office is a useful beginning career step for new law graduates who intend to progress to bigger and better things in private practice.

This is all going to end up with the Sanford police saying, “WE TOLD YOU SO.”


22 posted on 05/16/2012 7:27:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is paying Crump, and what for, exactly?


23 posted on 05/16/2012 7:29:32 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yup, when the wind begins to go against him all of a sudden there’s no need for the “rush.”

How do these people keep from looking like utter, brutal, inhuman fools? This isn’t supposed to be a trial about an archetypical Whitey and Darkey fight. It is about two persons with faces.


24 posted on 05/16/2012 7:30:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Logical me

Since Crump and the publicist he hired instigated the racial unrest, I’d like to see them sued by someone who gets injured if the assailants mention Trayvon during the attack.


25 posted on 05/16/2012 7:30:36 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Logical me

Nope.
Crump doesn’t have anything do with criminal case and couldn’t care less about it.
Crump is a legal pirate doing everything within his power to set up Zimmerman for a civil lawsuit so that he can collect a (large) share.
Keep that in mind and his actions make perfect sense.


26 posted on 05/16/2012 7:31:26 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman could have a sprinklerhead sticking out of the back of his skull and a 3 finger ring impression in his head saying “trayvon was here” and it wouldn’t matter to those in opposition to zimmerman. Trayvon is an innocent child because of what color he is.


27 posted on 05/16/2012 7:32:19 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Honey badger's level of concern is negligible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've stood in Zimmerman's shoes.

My "peers" in 1997 were just as gutless then as the are now.

CWII...

28 posted on 05/16/2012 7:33:14 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Until this report showed up, nobody was saying that Z. jumped T. and began a brawl, and T. would have had to been eating magic Skittles if Z. had pointed a gun at him from a distance and T. had thought the best response was rushing Z. T. wasn’t shot in the back. And of course nobody in the case is bringing up “Stand Your Ground,” not the defense nor the persecution — it did not figure even hypothetically.

Why is Trayvon Martin called "T" while George Zimmerman is called "Z?" Are we on a first name basis with the decedent while the shooter is only referred to by his last name? Do you see how your own language feeds the black racist narrative?

29 posted on 05/16/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Logical me

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that evidence helps support Zimmerman’s claim that he was defending himself from the teen. But Sheaffer added that the injured knuckles “could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defending himself.”


Crump’s just shaking the money tree. Sheaffer, the legal analyst...now he’s stupid! He is discussing evidence showing that Zimmerman had been beaten. Trayvon’s knuckles are bruised. So he concludes that maybe trayvon hurt his knuckles while trying to get away or defend himself?


30 posted on 05/16/2012 7:36:26 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Cyber Liberty

OK, I unwittingly follow in the shoes of the headline writers. Mea culpa, this is in the vein of the time when Negros were enslaved and didn’t even get surnames.


31 posted on 05/16/2012 7:38:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At a minimum the evidence rules out intentional homicide so goodbye Murder 2 conviction.


32 posted on 05/16/2012 7:40:48 PM PDT by Argus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to libloons. Here’s a preview:

The Dr. is lying.
Zimmerman broke his own nose.
Trayvon Martin’s knuckles were bruised from Zimmerman beating them with the back of his head which coincidentally explains the wounds on Zimmermans head.
Trayvon was hunted and stalked by Zimmerman so even if the wounds are coincident with Zimmermans story it doesn’t matter since in the new world you can beat down anybody you think is dissing you without lawful retaliation.

There’s more of course because the left wing does not lack for nuts.


33 posted on 05/16/2012 7:41:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There needs to be a warning at the top of all Zimmerman threads:

WARNING: All material presented by the media is not based on actual evidence or facts to be used in the case. Martin’s lawyer is not involved in the case. His only purpose is to continue the race baiting adgenda.


34 posted on 05/16/2012 7:43:03 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: SaraJohnson

So GZ is being alleged to have done what to TM. Having a gun, GZ leaves it in his pocket and grabs TM. And poor TM flails about with a fist trying to get away, whereupon the monstrous GZ shoots TM.

And none of this follows on to anything known in GZ’s own past. GZ had no reason to disobey the dispatcher who told him to knock off the trailing (and to all appearance, DID). And in the meantime TM is on the horn with his girlfriend. Why didn’t she tell him to call police, or do it herself.


36 posted on 05/16/2012 7:43:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: tbw2

A guy from the area named Mark O’Mara is doing is somewhat pro bono.


37 posted on 05/16/2012 7:44:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM is determined to crucify him. The Gates of Hell themselves could open up and Trayvon Martin could waltz out and beg forgiveness for trying to kill Zimmerman, to no avail. To the MSM and its followers, this has now become part of the struggle between Left and Right and the actual guilt or innocence of a man, the fate of one man, makes not one whit of difference.


38 posted on 05/16/2012 7:45:47 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

We have ourselves a Class War!


39 posted on 05/16/2012 7:48:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

‘Salright (I’ve done it too, in shorthand). But it’s a warning how easy it is to prove Orwell correct: They win when they set the language, before you’ve fired a verbal shot.


40 posted on 05/16/2012 7:51:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

And here, well it does so happen that the names Zimmerman and Trayvon are more unique than George or Martin. So that’s what gets remembered.


41 posted on 05/16/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The spin will be that Zim so terrorized Trabant that he completely went insane and caused those injuries to Zim.

Zim’s fault.


42 posted on 05/16/2012 7:54:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That is a most excellent point. I prefer “Spy” vs “Spy.”


43 posted on 05/16/2012 7:57:48 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Cyber Liberty
OK, I unwittingly follow in the shoes of the headline writers. Mea culpa

NO. No "Mea Culpa". NO "unwittingly". Just shut up.

44 posted on 05/16/2012 7:58:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That sounds like the understory. As Mr. Z stood there looking around after he stopped trailing the Skittles kid, then the Skittles kid was so shook up with fear at it that he felt he had to singlehandedly take down this dastardly profiling trailing monster.

All reports on behalf of Mr. Z are that he got jumped by surprise. Obviously Mr. Z wasn’t even looking around by then, probably just standing there gazing off into the distance, maybe having a smoke if he smokes.


45 posted on 05/16/2012 7:59:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where is smart phone or handi-cam video when you really need it?


46 posted on 05/16/2012 8:00:15 PM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: bigheadfred

phbbbbbbbbbt!


47 posted on 05/16/2012 8:01:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Recently there was an earthquake in DC, and the location was semi-humorously dubbed “Bush’s Fault.” You may have inadvertently coined the name of the next one: “Zim’s Fault.”


48 posted on 05/16/2012 8:01:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Even you people are guilty of always using George’s last name, but Martin’s first. Why?


49 posted on 05/16/2012 8:01:59 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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Because a discussion about George and Martin would draw a bunch of blank stares.


50 posted on 05/16/2012 8:04:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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