Skip to comments.George Zimmerman: Will medical report help his case?
Posted on 05/16/2012 6:59:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
What to make of the "ABC World News" report about George Zimmerman's injuries after shooting Trayvon Martin?
The TV analysts stepped in Tuesday night after ABC's Matt Gutman reported that Zimmerman's medical report showed the shooter had a broken nose, two black eyes and gashes on his head.
Zimmerman had refused to go to the hospital the night of the shooting, and his doctor treated him the next day, Gutman reported in his exclusive.
ABC's Dan Abrams said, "There's no question these documented injuries help Zimmerman's case, but the fundamental legal question remains: Who was the aggressor?"
Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in Trayvon's death. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense.
Ben Crump, attorney for the Martin family, told CNN'sAnderson Cooper that Zimmerman's injuries needed to be put in full context. Crump highlighted that Zimmerman had neither a concussion nor stitches.
Trayvon Martin "didn't start this fight," Crump said.
But CNN's Jeffrey Toobin wanted to know how Crump knew that Zimmerman was the aggressor. Crump pointed to the 911 calls.
Crump said he "wanted everybody to wait until the full evidence comes out," even as he continued to blast Zimmerman....
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Wow - we’ve actually sunk to a point where even in the face of proof people don’t believe it.
Another glorious day in Obamaland. :(
Crump is about as stupid as a box of rocks.
Until this report showed up, nobody was saying that Z. jumped T. and began a brawl, and T. would have had to been eating magic Skittles if Z. had pointed a gun at him from a distance and T. had thought the best response was rushing Z. T. wasn’t shot in the back. And of course nobody in the case is bringing up “Stand Your Ground,” not the defense nor the persecution — it did not figure even hypothetically.
This is a rather rarefied clump of people. The unwashed rabble is scoffing at this racist attack upon Z.
Help? No. It will end it.
I hope he sues the Black Panthers too
Nice try, libtard press.
If a video turns up that shows that Zimmerman was attacked unfairly, your next claim was that he didn’t 1) yell loud enough, 2) lie there and get beaten some more, etc, etc.
Keep it up. You’re trying to incite a race war, and congrats, you’re doing quite well. However, you libtards are going to be the ones in the middle of it.
Let’s face it, at this point the “white hispanic” is being hunted.
Perhaps Zimmerman hit Trayvon on the knuckles with his eyes and his nose. Yeah, sure, that computes!
they probably won’t even look at it until after they’ve convicted him and hung him.
The damage to Martin’s knuckles was from Zimmerman assaulting his hands with his face.
Actually it is not a question since the fundamental legal presumption is that absent contrary evidence, Zimmerman is innocent.
And, if Z. had blindsided T. instead of vice versa as Z. reported, wouldn’t we expect T. to have suffered more than bruised knuckles?
It’s like a joke my dad used to make. “Here,” (making a fist and holding it stationary in front of himself) “run your nose into this.”
One way you can be be 100% certain the press is biased, they are incapable of saying oh, wait, here is new information and it looks like our original info was wrong.
IF they weren’t biased they would have big headlines, instead they bury news that conflicts with their stupid leftist agenda.
They can’t deal with the possibility that a black kid hit someone, or the “white” guy may not have been a racist murderer.
Maybe they can be let down easy by coming up with a violin song about oh how white society had failed Tray and driven him to impulsive brawling.
Has a major legal firm yet taken up Mr. Zimmerman’s defense? I remember his first attorneys quitting, in a press conference, leaking information they shouldn’t have.
You were on a roll, Crump, why wait now?
Does he really want a car like this?
Whoever it is, has been described by other freepers as competent. Maybe even a public defender or (in low density populated areas) an attorney reimbursed by the state. Some PDs are sharp if green; the office is a useful beginning career step for new law graduates who intend to progress to bigger and better things in private practice.
This is all going to end up with the Sanford police saying, “WE TOLD YOU SO.”
Who is paying Crump, and what for, exactly?
Yup, when the wind begins to go against him all of a sudden there’s no need for the “rush.”
How do these people keep from looking like utter, brutal, inhuman fools? This isn’t supposed to be a trial about an archetypical Whitey and Darkey fight. It is about two persons with faces.
Since Crump and the publicist he hired instigated the racial unrest, I’d like to see them sued by someone who gets injured if the assailants mention Trayvon during the attack.
Crump doesn’t have anything do with criminal case and couldn’t care less about it.
Crump is a legal pirate doing everything within his power to set up Zimmerman for a civil lawsuit so that he can collect a (large) share.
Keep that in mind and his actions make perfect sense.
Zimmerman could have a sprinklerhead sticking out of the back of his skull and a 3 finger ring impression in his head saying “trayvon was here” and it wouldn’t matter to those in opposition to zimmerman. Trayvon is an innocent child because of what color he is.
My "peers" in 1997 were just as gutless then as the are now.
Why is Trayvon Martin called "T" while George Zimmerman is called "Z?" Are we on a first name basis with the decedent while the shooter is only referred to by his last name? Do you see how your own language feeds the black racist narrative?
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that evidence helps support Zimmerman’s claim that he was defending himself from the teen. But Sheaffer added that the injured knuckles “could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defending himself.”
OK, I unwittingly follow in the shoes of the headline writers. Mea culpa, this is in the vein of the time when Negros were enslaved and didn’t even get surnames.
At a minimum the evidence rules out intentional homicide so goodbye Murder 2 conviction.
Not to libloons. Here’s a preview:
The Dr. is lying.
Zimmerman broke his own nose.
Trayvon Martin’s knuckles were bruised from Zimmerman beating them with the back of his head which coincidentally explains the wounds on Zimmermans head.
Trayvon was hunted and stalked by Zimmerman so even if the wounds are coincident with Zimmermans story it doesn’t matter since in the new world you can beat down anybody you think is dissing you without lawful retaliation.
There’s more of course because the left wing does not lack for nuts.
There needs to be a warning at the top of all Zimmerman threads:
WARNING: All material presented by the media is not based on actual evidence or facts to be used in the case. Martins lawyer is not involved in the case. His only purpose is to continue the race baiting adgenda.
So GZ is being alleged to have done what to TM. Having a gun, GZ leaves it in his pocket and grabs TM. And poor TM flails about with a fist trying to get away, whereupon the monstrous GZ shoots TM.
And none of this follows on to anything known in GZ’s own past. GZ had no reason to disobey the dispatcher who told him to knock off the trailing (and to all appearance, DID). And in the meantime TM is on the horn with his girlfriend. Why didn’t she tell him to call police, or do it herself.
A guy from the area named Mark O’Mara is doing is somewhat pro bono.
The MSM is determined to crucify him. The Gates of Hell themselves could open up and Trayvon Martin could waltz out and beg forgiveness for trying to kill Zimmerman, to no avail. To the MSM and its followers, this has now become part of the struggle between Left and Right and the actual guilt or innocence of a man, the fate of one man, makes not one whit of difference.
We have ourselves a Class War!
‘Salright (I’ve done it too, in shorthand). But it’s a warning how easy it is to prove Orwell correct: They win when they set the language, before you’ve fired a verbal shot.
And here, well it does so happen that the names Zimmerman and Trayvon are more unique than George or Martin. So that’s what gets remembered.
The spin will be that Zim so terrorized Trabant that he completely went insane and caused those injuries to Zim.
That is a most excellent point. I prefer “Spy” vs “Spy.”
NO. No "Mea Culpa". NO "unwittingly". Just shut up.
That sounds like the understory. As Mr. Z stood there looking around after he stopped trailing the Skittles kid, then the Skittles kid was so shook up with fear at it that he felt he had to singlehandedly take down this dastardly profiling trailing monster.
All reports on behalf of Mr. Z are that he got jumped by surprise. Obviously Mr. Z wasn’t even looking around by then, probably just standing there gazing off into the distance, maybe having a smoke if he smokes.
Where is smart phone or handi-cam video when you really need it?
Recently there was an earthquake in DC, and the location was semi-humorously dubbed “Bush’s Fault.” You may have inadvertently coined the name of the next one: “Zim’s Fault.”
Even you people are guilty of always using George’s last name, but Martin’s first. Why?
Because a discussion about George and Martin would draw a bunch of blank stares.