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The Club For Growth’s Depressing Study: Failure and Lies of the Tea Party Congresscritters
Redstate.com ^ | May 16 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 05/17/2012 5:26:16 AM PDT by iowamark

There have been many studies out on the “tea party congress” and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against.

Probably one of the best places to get a sense of this is the Club for Growth. Why? The Club ignores social votes and focuses only on fiscal votes — spending issues more than anything else. The tea party candidates went to Congress not just to repeal Obamacare, but were really motivated by out of control government spending, bailouts, etc. Remember, it was Rick Santelli of CNBC on February 19, 2009, who predicted this grassroots army of activists would rise up and say enough to out of control government spending and bailouts. Santelli said, in part,

"The government is promoting bad behavior. Because we certainly don’t want to put stimulus forth and give people a whopping $8 or $10 in their check, and think that they ought to save it, and in terms of modifications… I’ll tell you what, I have an idea.

You know, the new administration’s big on computers and technology– How about this, President and new administration? Why don’t you put up a website to have people vote on the Internet as a referendum to see if we really want to subsidize the losers’ mortgages; or would we like to at least buy cars and buy houses in foreclosure and give them to people that might have a chance to actually prosper down the road, and reward people that could carry the water instead of drink the water?

We’re thinking of having a Chicago Tea Party in July. All you capitalists that want to show up to Lake Michigan, I’m gonna start organizing."

Things sort of spiraled from there sending a wave of candidates to Washington embracing the concerns of the activists who showed up to the tea party.span id="more-15904">

They wanted to cut spending because of out of control debt, stop Barack Obama, end Obamacare, and they were willing to primary Republicans to do it. A number of Republicans lost. In some open primaries, the candidates who were supported by the GOP out of Washington went down in flames.

But what of the candidates who actually went to DC on a wave of tea party support. Turns out some of them were liars and a lot of them behaved like the pigs in Animal Farm with some of them deciding they were more equal than others.

The Club for Growth’s new study of this Tea Party Congress paints a rather depressing picture. You can see how the freshman of the Tea Party Class of 2010 preformed by clicking right here.

If you want a more in depth look at the Congress as a whole, one of the best places to go is Heritage Action for America’s comprehensive score card. What you’ll find is not much better there.

I’m afraid if the tea party is not much more successful in primarying Republican candidates and then having those guys practice what they preach, the GOP is within a decade of going the way of the Whigs.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clubforgrowth
The Club For Growth’s Depressing Study: Failure and Lies of the Tea Party Congresscritters

Heritage Scorecard

1 posted on 05/17/2012 5:26:28 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
RE :”There have been many studies out on the “tea party congress” and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against.
Probably one of the best places to get a sense of this is the Club for Growth. Why? The Club ignores social votes and focuses only on fiscal votes — spending issues more than anything else. The tea party candidates went to Congress not just to repeal Obamacare, but were really motivated by out of control government spending, bailouts, etc
But what of the candidates who actually went to DC on a wave of tea party support. Turns out some of them were liars and a lot of them behaved like the pigs in Animal Farm with some of them deciding they were more equal than others. The Club for Growth’s new study of this Tea Party Congress paints a rather depressing picture. You can see how the freshman of the Tea Party Class of 2010 preformed by clicking right here

Big surprise.

It is reported today that Boehner held a closed door Republicans strategy meeting to plot out the course after the SCOTUS rules on Obama-care:

Plan A) If Obama-care is fully thrown out House Republicans will put up bills to re-impose the popular costly mandates on insurance companies such as pre-existing conditions, without a personal mandate, that is disaster A

Plan B) If Obama-care is upheld then the House will put up bills to strip out the unpopular parts, like the personal mandates and and taxes and leave in the popular handouts and mandates.

These would be pretty poor policies but I am assuming that they are counting on those bills dying in the Senate.

While this has not been made public I couldnt help notice it's exactly what I expected.

2 posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

source?


3 posted on 05/17/2012 5:42:09 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

It’s a leak. It was a closed door meeting.


4 posted on 05/17/2012 5:43:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

But if the vote comes down to supporting the Rep-E led Congress at the end after trying in the system for less spending, etc, but failing, they will vote accordingly rather than supporting the Dems, which wold be the only other option. This study only looks at the final result, not the actions that take place during the “sausage-making” of committee hearings, mark-ups, etc. just not enough to make the substantial changes, given the fact that Boener runs the House, and his cronies are committee heads.


5 posted on 05/17/2012 5:51:27 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: iowamark
Not much news here, just old hat. Go to Washington DC, get corrupted; it's a story as old as our nation.

It's frustrating, irritating, disappointing, but not really a surprise. I truly no long believe that America will survive the next 4 decades. Fortunately for me, I have no kids and will probably be dead BEFORE the money and time run out, but I feel sorry for all of you who have children to worry about.

We conservatives were too complacent for too long and allowed our Constitution to be destroyed piecemeal by leftist legislators and activist judges. Now, short of some convulsive shift in the voting public, back towards sanity and responsibility, our nation is headed down the path of all great nations.

Well, 2 centuries is a pretty good run, but greed, sloth, envy, and selfishness were always destined to supplant selflessness, industry, and self-respect.
6 posted on 05/17/2012 5:55:27 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: iowamark

Anyone who expected every Tea Party congressman to stay true to our ideals was an ignorant, political juvenile.

This is a looooong process where we will keep weeding out the inferior politicians in favor of new blood, even if those inferior politicians ran under the Tea Party banner.

The only goal of this story is to depress and destroy the Tea Party.


7 posted on 05/17/2012 5:57:10 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: iowamark

When the “results” defy common sense...

Check the markings on the yardstick!

Metrics are usually poorly designed to achieve meaningful measurements,
OR
INTENTIONALLY designed to deceive.


8 posted on 05/17/2012 5:59:48 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: iowamark

Some of the better-known tea party frosh:

98% Ben Quayle
92% Tim Scott
64% Allen West
60% Kristi Noem
58% Sean Duffy
56% Adam Kinzinger


9 posted on 05/17/2012 6:03:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: rstrahan

What, we shouldn’t hold individual lawmakers responsible for the patterns of their votes?

Who are you, Sen. Lugar’s chief of staff?


10 posted on 05/17/2012 6:05:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

John McCain has a better score than Allen West.


11 posted on 05/17/2012 6:09:06 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: rstrahan
RE :”But if the vote comes down to supporting the Rep-E led Congress at the end after trying in the system for less spending, etc, but failing, they will vote accordingly rather than supporting the Dems, which wold be the only other option. This study only looks at the final result, not the actions that take place during the “sausage-making” of committee hearings, mark-ups, etc. just not enough to make the substantial changes, given the fact that Boener runs the House, and his cronies are committee heads

Boehner definitely played them, giving them their symbolic votes and afterward getting them to vote for the Obama-Boehner compromises which did go into law.

The Debt limit/deficit reduction bill is the worse example of this shameless effective strategy.

The symbolic votes are just for primary protection purposes.

12 posted on 05/17/2012 6:09:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Perdogg

Some folks here (and Sarah Palin) are still big fans of West, but I’ve been quite disappointed with him.


13 posted on 05/17/2012 6:17:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Some folks here (and Sarah Palin) are still big fans of West, but I’ve been quite disappointed with him.

That's because a lot of FReepers are gullible and easily-led, and are more attracted to loudly-made public pronouncements than they are interested in looking at a candidate's actual record.

This also explains the sudden rush to "reimagine" Mitt Romney as conservatism's great paladin and its last, best hope.

14 posted on 05/17/2012 6:27:39 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: iowamark; xzins; SoConPubbie

This is simply more evidence that, despite the naysaying from some quarters here on FR, I am correct in my assertion that the only way to effectively deal with the problem is for conservatives to band together in dumping the GOP and creating a new organization for political action.

Trying to work within the present system won’t work because it’s players are too entrenched. The only way to unentrench them is to sap the dirt out from under their trenches.


15 posted on 05/17/2012 6:30:39 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (A conservative voting for Romney is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: Perdogg
John McCain has a better score than Allen West.

If you need any more evidence that the rating system is flawed...

16 posted on 05/17/2012 6:40:54 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: sickoflibs

And the source for the “leak”?

The only one I’ve seen is Pollutico.


17 posted on 05/17/2012 7:27:54 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
RE :”And the source for the “leak”?

This popped up this morning:
Report: GOP might keep parts of ObamaCare if law is struck down

18 posted on 05/17/2012 7:35:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Skulllspitter

McCain’s a pretty fiscally conservative voter but possibly votes should be weighted in this as not all votes are equal.


19 posted on 05/17/2012 7:48:43 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: sickoflibs

” RE :”There have been many studies out on the “tea party congress” and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against.”

Trent Lott and McConnell did their job well..


20 posted on 05/17/2012 9:09:11 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs; iowamark; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...

“Boehner definitely played them, giving them their symbolic votes and afterward getting them to vote for the Obama-Boehner compromises which did go into law.

The Debt limit/deficit reduction bill is the worse example of this shameless effective strategy.”

Trent Lott(Drudge & FR) “ We have to co-opt the Tea Party guys
as soon as they get here”


21 posted on 05/17/2012 9:12:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

The HotAir source is the same Politco story.

The ONLY source is Politico. I wouldn’t give it any credence.

Not that i can’t imagine it being true.


22 posted on 05/17/2012 9:34:43 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
RE :”The ONLY source is Politico. I wouldn’t give it any credence.
Not that i can’t imagine it being true

That is the problem, it sounds exactly like what they say when they are interrogated on it, to just do the politically easy stuff.

The other problem is that the Republican channel is so committed to electing Republicans, much like the Dem channel with Dems, that there is no way they would report this even if they got the info.

23 posted on 05/17/2012 9:48:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“The only goal of this story is to depress and destroy the Tea Party.”

Yes, the Tea Party consistently came up 20 to 40 votes short when the heat was on.
The lesson they don’t want us to learn is to get 20 to 40 more Tea Party congressmen!

Then the Senate RINO and Dems can play all the tricks they want and it’ll do them no good.


24 posted on 05/17/2012 9:59:15 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
The only goal of this story is to depress and destroy the Tea Party.

I think the goal of this story is to remind conservatives that the work of reshaping government is difficult and is going to take time. I'm not discouraged by this even though my Tea Party frosh only checked in at 57% (Cravaack).

Both the major party candidates will make this process immeasurably more difficult, but I look at it like an employer who is giving a job review. I need hard data, and this is it.

25 posted on 05/17/2012 10:02:32 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: free me

Rush reported on the same story citing Politico and said he believes it, and he was critical of the idea.

So I see not long after Boehner comes out and denies the story,

He can get awaqy with trying to repeal unpopular parts of it claiming he is dismantling it, but if it is thrown out and he tries to re-pass the popular parts he would claim that is the Republican alternative, not likely now,


26 posted on 05/17/2012 12:11:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the update. It’s good Boehner denied it.

Obamacare needs to be completely repealed. All parts of it.
If the pubbies don’t do it I will never vote for any of them again.


27 posted on 05/17/2012 2:36:21 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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