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How California's budget blunders led to my divorce from the Golden State (Chuck DeVore)
Fox News ^ | May 15, 2012 | Chuck DeVore

Posted on 05/17/2012 8:29:30 AM PDT by hocndoc

Chuck DeVore, former California Assemblyman has moved to Texas and sings our praises, while pointing out the pitfalls of statist California:

Texas’ bureaucracy, excluding teachers, is 22 percent smaller as a portion of the population than is California’s, with every Texan paying about $467 a year for government retiree benefits, compared to California’s $1,105 in pension costs. Sky-high benefits for bureaucrats may soon cause the bankruptcy of Stockton, California’s 13th-largest city.

California has more government paper-pushers but Texas has 17 percent more teachers per capita, with educational outcomes favoring the Lone Star State. In fact, Texas K-12 schools perform consistently above the national average across age, racial, and subject matter areas, while California schools perform well below the national average.

To support its bloated government, California asks more of its taxpayers who pay 10.6 percent of their income to state and local government, above the U.S. average of 9.8 percent. Texans pay only 7.9 percent.


(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; conservative; taxes
Rather than posting to my blog, I've linked to the original.

I heard Mark Levin read most of this yesterday on his show.

1 posted on 05/17/2012 8:29:39 AM PDT by hocndoc
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To: hocndoc

And Texans pay far too much... These should be diminished until ZERO. Pensions should go away and people should have to pay their own retirement. If a pension were to remain it should be 100% funded before granted. No Debt to finance it, and no future payments. Our debt driven economy is going to make us Greece soon.


2 posted on 05/17/2012 8:41:20 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: King_Corey

Term limits for all state employees.
That should do it.


3 posted on 05/17/2012 8:55:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: hocndoc; King_Corey

I heard it on Levin’s show too. Can’t say I blame DeVore for doing this.


4 posted on 05/17/2012 8:55:47 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: hocndoc

No one like a quitter Chuck.


5 posted on 05/17/2012 8:55:53 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: edcoil

Who’s a quitter?


6 posted on 05/17/2012 9:06:18 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: edcoil

Former Assemblyman? Do not know all the facts but.... did he take the pension that CA politicians provided themselves, protect it while in office and the go to Texas once he retires?
Would seem a bit hypocritical to then slam CA for their problems if he is now benefitting AND not paying CA taxes.

Just sayin.....


7 posted on 05/17/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by Maryland Man
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To: Maryland Man

You’re making accusations when you don’t know the facts? Google it!

How about the issues and facts in the article, rather than your distractions?


8 posted on 05/17/2012 9:16:57 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: edcoil
My job moved to Georgia so I left Maryland. So I guess that makes me a quitter too?

PS: State Taxes in Georgia are 3% less, and property taxes now 50% less.

Loaded up the Truck and MOVED OUT OF BEVERLY.

9 posted on 05/17/2012 9:33:07 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: hocndoc

BTTT


10 posted on 05/17/2012 9:34:02 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: King_Corey

Pensions that are fully funded by employers or unions are a thing of the past, but I do believe in keeping a contract so we have to plan on the pensions we have.

In fact, Governor Perry has championed changing our State pensions to private plans.

Texas has kept a lid on our spending and debt.


11 posted on 05/17/2012 9:47:48 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Maryland Man

DeVore was a proponent of pension reform, was term limited. Took a job in Texas, with the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a very Conservative think tank.http://www.texaspolicy.com/


12 posted on 05/17/2012 9:48:24 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: King_Corey
most people have no idea about the TX retirment sytstem!! It presently has 111 BILLION IN ASSETS, which are used to pay out the retirement of a few thousand people - as the story says, we have many fewer than Calif or NY which are about the same population. Last year the fund outperformed the market by 2.3 billion. That pays for a heck of a lot of teachers or other employees. During the past 4 years, state workers have been getting less than inflation raises...if they do get a raise.

Where our biggest bite of tax dollars go - is to schools and again as the story said, TX out performs most in the nation with the 47th lowest cost per student. Sounds like the people are getting their monies worth compared to most states.

13 posted on 05/17/2012 10:13:24 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: edcoil

No one likes YOUR shithole of a State either “edcoil”. What’s wrong, you mad because SOMEONE escaped!?


14 posted on 05/17/2012 10:56:30 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Nope


15 posted on 05/17/2012 11:08:51 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: q_an_a; hocndoc

I would say Texas is not doing poorly right now. But my father was a Texas Deputy Sheriff and died, my elderly mother gets his pension. I understand the obligation. We need to transfer them to private and remove it.


16 posted on 05/17/2012 11:24:35 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: q_an_a

Thanks for the information! It’s hard to believe that Texas gets such - and so much - bad press.


17 posted on 05/17/2012 11:42:49 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold Rs to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: hocndoc

Made no accusations, just posited a question.

There are plenty of politicians who do advocate for issues once they have left office and can no longer affect such changes.


18 posted on 05/17/2012 11:55:01 AM PDT by Maryland Man
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To: edcoil

Moving to Texas from California isn’t quitting, it is winning, kind of like leaving Europe for America for our freedom loving ancestors.

California is a hell hole of liberalism, don’t be so tied to one place.


19 posted on 05/17/2012 12:08:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Maryland Man; hocndoc

No, you made an accusations.

On a forum to ask ask such a question as you did instead of looking into it first to see if it was a valid question, is a form of making an accusation or even an unsubstantiated claim, or rumor.

You tell us, did he?


20 posted on 05/17/2012 12:24:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Saoirise

Ping

Chuck Devore article


21 posted on 05/17/2012 3:21:41 PM PDT by 444Flyer (~Leaning on the everlasting arms~ (Deuteronomy 33:27) (John 3) /// Thailand? Rev. 20:1-3)
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