Skip to comments.Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting
Posted on 05/17/2012 3:51:44 PM PDT by CA Conservative
Two police reports written the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin said that Zimmerman had a bloody face and nose, according to police reports made public today.
The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches.
In addition, Trayvon Martin's father told an investigator after listening to 911 tapes that captured a man's voice frantically callling for help that it was not his son calling for help.
The new information is part of a trove of documents released by the Florida State Attorney today in the case against Zimmerman, who is charged with second degree murder for the Feb. 26 killing of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old African American male.
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They’re still lightening his skin color...
I think Zimmerman played LaCrosse at Duke.
If Holder did that the Disaster’s election chances plummet even faster.
It is a safe bet on who started the fight. Young, big, hopped-up thug with numerous arrests and suspensions OR not-so-big, not-so-young, upstanding citizen protecting his neighbors. Odds about 20 to 1 MINIMUM.
With all due respect, you are getting way ahead of yourself. One witness -if there really is one who claims that Zimmerman was chasing Martin- will have to be completely unimpeachable for the statement to amount to anything. The chance of this happening is nearly zero, but if it does, THEN we can dissect what constitutes a 'chase'.
There certainly is not. Especially considering the dispatcher directed Zimmerman to "Just let me know if this guy does anything else."
Never let the facts get in the way of your agenda, guys! You could post link after link of articles or City of Sanford reports and recordings (while they were available) refuting their arguments, and they would pretend they didn't exist. They willingly and excitedly fell for the "coon" report and that Zim wasn't injured as per ABC tapes; pathetic really.
POTUS only matters when theres some semblance of a country remaining to lead, and if ye talking about '16, i believe thats a bit late...
You’d think these folks (just about anywhere in this Ewe Essay) would be halfway ethical. They’re not. They’re generally bureaucratic hacks covering their own political hineys.
Why did they post a negative of a page? What was that anyway?
One article had Crump claiming those were just trace amounts. I wonder if anybody knows how recent marijuana use would be for those levels.
I'm sure defense counsels phone is ringing of the hook with attorneys offering free services in exchange for an opportunity to take a bite out the prosecution's rump.
>>With all due respect, you are getting way ahead of yourself. One witness -if there really is one who claims that Zimmerman was chasing Martin- will have to be completely unimpeachable for the statement to amount to anything.<<
In the bond hearing, investigator Gilbreath said that there was a female witness on the perimeter who saw 2 people running in about the same time frame. O’Mara asked if he knew which way they were running or who they were and Gilbreath said no... Doesn’t sound like much evidence to me. Could have been 2 joggers, or two people running to get out of the rain.
An interesting thought.
Corey's only hope of avoiding sanctions and disbarment, seems to be to get Zimmerman to admit to murder on the stand.
It appears she has absolutely no evidence to contradict the Sanford Police investigation and the police decision of self defense, and to not arrest Zimmerman, and the submission of that report to the DA, and finally that DA's decision not to charge.
Because of this, Corey had no reason to to act, no new evidence, and she knew this before charging Zimmerman.
An attorney with a bone to pick, can deny Corey the evidence she needs to keep her law license by properly preparing Zimmerman, that's the only place she can get it.
“Scott Walker beats these socialists in WI and we will have one hell of a conservative POTUS candidate material, the quality of which was not close to seen in this R primary. “
The pic at post 114 appears to be from her statements.
It’s becoming apparent these charges are the result of political pressure. Nothing more.
Supposedly Corey is presenting the notion Zimmerman caused this by exiting his vehicle. I’d love to see what statute supports this nonsense
My local paper is doing the ‘it’s all so confusing - this for that side, that for the other’ ... For a liberal paper that translates into ‘we want the story to go away because it doesn’t support liberal lies but we have to cover it...’
I cite that statute in my tagline.
What this person's account seems to suggest is that Martin confronted Zimmerman and possibly sucker punched him. Zimmerman ran toward his truck, trying to retreat, but Martin pursued and attacked him again, taking Zimmerman to the ground, where the other witnesses saw Martin on top of Zimmerman, beating him.
“Corey’s only hope of avoiding sanctions and disbarment, seems to be to get Zimmerman to admit to murder on the stand.”
Ah, so she’s going for the “You can’t handle the truth!” moment. I can hear Zimmerman now, “You want me on that nightwatch! You need me on that nightwatch!”
“Supposedly Corey is presenting the notion Zimmerman caused this by exiting his vehicle”
That wouldn’t be enough, ridiculous as it is, for muder 2. She also has to prove a “depraved mindset,” which I guess she’ll argue stems from his obsession with crime and his profiling blacks.
By the way, can prosecutors now convict women who shoot their rapists simply by asking, “What were you doing where you could be raped in the first place, ma’am? Didn’t you, in fact, instigate the sex? After all it never would’ve happened had you not left your house that morning.”
Corey will be allowed to speculate in the opening statement and closing arguments, but she cannot testify or lead witnesses, so she can show zero evidence of Zimmerman initiating violence.
Zimmerman dosen't even need to testify at this point, but the very best defense against a baseless accusation, is a firm, honest, angerless denial in front of the jury.
But, to do this right, Zimmerman must be very well prepared for Corey's language and inflection tricks.
“Zimmerman dosen’t even need to testify at this point”
I don’t know, I thought I heard somewhere that for him to assert immunity based on self-defense, which I think is what he’s gonna do, he can’t just sit back and dare the prosecution to prove it. Maybe he doesn’t have to take the stand to do so, maybe all he has to do is enter it as a plea. But since the jury has to believe he was in fear for his life for self-defense to apply, and since he’s the only witness to all of what happened, you’d think he has to testify.
and they still haven’t recognized him as an African-American.
He's not required to testify, but for the points you and I make, and to back up his admissible statements to police and the courts, it's in his best interests to do so and well.
Zimmerman's evidence supported account is that he was ambushed from behind, after he lost track of Martin, and was knocked down, unable to disengage with Martin kneeling on his chest.
At that point, it is impossible to retreat, so he doesn't have to cite SYG to justify shooting, the original Florida self defense allows shooting.
It would be good to relate the ambush directly to the jury, backing up the statement to police. The police believed him, and this time he will be prepared in how to speak and to avoid Corey's traps.
An excellent analogy which could be carried over to just about every victim. Percentage of culpability may be a consideration in some cases, like traffic accidents where there is no clear violation, but not here.
Zimmerman has said he was walking along the top of the "T", a direct route from his truck "C" toward "E". This would necessitate him walking down the T for some reason.