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Could the mob have been wrong on Trayvon Martin?
The Washington Post ^ | May 18, 2012 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 05/18/2012 12:40:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 05/21/2012 8:46:19 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A medical report by George Zimmermanís doctor has disclosed that Zimmerman had a fractured nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and a back injury on the day after the fatal shooting. If this evidence turns out to be valid, the prosecutor will have no choice but to drop the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman ó if she wants to act ethically, lawfully and professionally.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: angelacorey; blackkk; dershowitz; florida; georgezimmerman; lmm; railroaded; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Carry_Okie

From reading the “black community’s” comments on Trayvon articles, they are totally missing the evidence and testimony that confirms George’s story.

They have no idea what the “stand your ground” law means because they are accustomed to getting away with beating anyone they want to beat for so much as a look they don’t like. To think they might get legally shot by a target...well, that is outrageous racism.

Then we have a lot of black thugs claiming they can shoot anyone they want to shoot if Zimmerman gets away with using deadly force to stop Martin’s aggression. All they have to do is say it was self defense and no-snitch friends will be witnesses.

Fortunately, most hood rat thugs can’t read the law and understand it well enough to cover their crime. But then it will be called a “racist” application of the law. Whitey gets off for self defense but blacks don’t.

Freedom only works for the law abiding. The more thugs we have, the less freedom we have.

61 posted on 05/18/2012 4:15:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who gave Jennifer Rubin the smelling salts? The leftists at the Post have all been oblivious to the real issues in play. Why the change of heart? Could it be the evidence is destroying their ability to wage a propaganda campaign?

62 posted on 05/18/2012 4:30:49 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mickie; flaglady47
Down here in Florida the latest spin being promoted to salvage something, anything, to combat the favorable (for Z) evidence just released is to say that the poh-lice stumbled and bumbled the investigation from beginning to end....and that's how Mr. Zimmerman is going to get off.

In short, Z is guilty as hell, but the local pigs blew it.


63 posted on 05/18/2012 4:39:45 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: redpoll

Thanks for all you do. You need to look into your school’s AP US Government and Politics classes. They teach democracy over republicanism, they hate the Electoral College and find voter ID racist. You’ve got your work cut out for you.

64 posted on 05/18/2012 4:47:46 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Carry_Okie

I thing she did exactly the WRONG thing. She should have done her job based on the facts as she had them. She should not given in to race based pressure. And if the Black Pamper wannabees riot, then it’s up to the police and citizenry to respond properly.

As it stands, she catered to racism at the expense of the civil rights of Zimmerman. There is zero justification.

One good riot put down hard by the people will end this nonsense. At the least, the punks will think hard about ever doing it again. Yes, buildings will burn and people will die. And the blame for any of it rests on those who cause it. Freedom is never without cost.

No, I don’t “want” a race war. But the BP types, Jessie and Al do. It is wholly in their power to determine which way it goes.

65 posted on 05/18/2012 4:50:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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66 posted on 05/18/2012 4:51:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Worng? No way. Here's proof


67 posted on 05/18/2012 5:00:07 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Leep

You’re right. We have a mass of people who only know the headline and don’t have the time or interest in learning more or reading the hidden paragraph/part that reverses the headline.

68 posted on 05/18/2012 5:06:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: pallis

” and now he has to pay for it, along with the rest of us.”

Not in my state.

We have 20 of Holder’s dumb-ass “peeples” locked up and facing up to 20 years in prison under the state’s anti-lynching law.

69 posted on 05/18/2012 6:05:08 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: MinuteGal

Two questions: Why would the police fabricate evidence in favor of Mr. Zimmerman when he fought them on behalf of a homeless black man not that long ago and (b) how did Mr. Zimmerman break his own nose, give himself two black eyes and pound his own skull on the ground?

70 posted on 05/18/2012 6:12:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trayvon acting as referee in an interracial street brawl:

71 posted on 05/18/2012 6:13:35 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Carry_Okie
Can't agree. If she wanted to quell the Mob, she could have charged Zimmerman with Manslaughter, either Voluntary or Involuntary.

The only other option would have been Negligent Homicide.

Second Degree Murder is ridiculous. Considering her blatant purposeful omission of facts in the Affidavit, she should be Disbarred.

72 posted on 05/18/2012 6:28:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: b4its2late

The Only Way Zimmerman can escape the Black Racist Mobs is to hide on the same Golf Course that O.J.’s ex Wifes killer is hiding in......

73 posted on 05/18/2012 7:16:22 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Verginius Rufus
Fox is still in lynch-Zimmerman mode.

Their on-scene person Phil Keating today reported the exact opposite of the truth: he said that Z's father had "changed his story" about the screaming on the tape being from his son. That is COMPLETELY wrong. Z's father has always maintained that the voice was his son. In fact it was TRAYVON'S father who had changed his story. Fox keeps lying about this case.

74 posted on 05/18/2012 7:35:57 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocqueville)
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To: In Maryland
you are absolutely correct. Unthinking morons that give political hacks cover are just as dangerous to the Republic as wild eyed Bolsheviks.
76 posted on 05/18/2012 7:49:26 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: itsahoot

No, the Sanhedrin was worried about riots, as it might bring the Romans down on the whole nation. Pontius Pilate could give a s#*+, to put it bluntly. He crucified so many rebels one time that he ran out of wood and started nailing people to walls.

77 posted on 05/18/2012 7:53:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: skeeter
His continued prosecution (Zimmerman's) looks more and more like mob justice, cheered on by hecklers in the media who didn’t much care to find out the facts before rallying the public to equate failure to charge Zimmerman with racism.

You're right, skeeter - the MSM is 'the single worst threat to liberty in this country'.

That said, look at the above quote and remember good people, like the woman who wrote this piece (Jennifer Rubin) will probably be fired or laid off soon. It took courage for her to put her job on the line to tell the truth. So, as horrible as it is - and it is horrible - we have to give thanks for brave souls out there willing to write the truth - thank you Jennifer Rubin.

78 posted on 05/18/2012 8:12:16 PM PDT by GOPJ ( "A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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Jennifer Rubin is very well connected. The editor would be fired before she would. I'm not worried for her at all.
79 posted on 05/18/2012 9:55:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Gator113; Kickass Conservative; Norm Lenhart; SaraJohnson; itsahoot; Cubs Fan; JerseyDvl; ...
You can’t be serious.

You bet, and I don't suspect you've thought about this seriously. So I'm offering this, not because I think I'll convince anybody, but to make those who read it think a little deeper.

Anything less than a murder charge would have both initiated a riot and carried the risk that a jury might render a conviction against Zimmerman on a lesser charge. I don't think there is any disagreement here that what Zimmerman in self-defense was not a crime. There is probably also agreement that there is no way this charge will stick, but it will assure that the evidence will be aired publicly over time. Zimmerman will be acquitted.

The rigorous thing to do, legally, would have been to announce no charges against Zimmerman at all. However, had he been permanently exonerated without charge as having acted in self-defense, the only story the public would know would have been from the MSM, Obama, Jackson, Sharpton, etc. Needless to say, the riot would have been immediate. Even Zimmerman would be at far greater peril then.

Not a few FReepers have the attidude, "Let 'em riot." Well, there's a problem with that, a problem probably already communicated to the DA by nearly every small businessman in the area: Innocent people would die, others would sustain lifelong injuries, property destroyed, businesses wrecked, jails and courts clogged... all to be rigorous. I have little doubt that, had the DA simply released Zimmerman without charge, the entire city government would have been tossed, not just because of the damage but because of the harm to innocents, and in that sense rightly so. It is one thing to commit the crime one self, it is still not exculpatory for a person in power to effectively abet crimes being committed when they had clear alternatives. To me, the cry for legal rigor I'm seeing here is exactly what Jesus meant by "righteousness like filthy rags," in that anyone who cannot broach any deviation from the most legally rigorous course apparently doesn't care about the obvious, avoidable, and definitely unjust outcome for those innocents harmed by a violent reaction to false information. Where are the "weightier elements of the law, justice, mercy, and faith," in the lack of concern for the likely damage to innocents? To ignore them is a position very similar to what the MSM has done with inflaming the case for ratings and to serve their Marxist agenda without a care as to the consequences to Zimmerman or anybody else. There is simply no practical benefit to a quick refusal to prosecute, no matter now legally rigorous that course may be.

Now one may argue that the benefit is to secure Mr. Zimmerman's rights as an individual. Yet in doing so, one must presume that just because Zimmerman is innocent of murder and acted in self-defense, he should bear no consequence. This is to conflate innocence of a charge to innocence in total. Zimmerman quite apparently took considerable pride in his neighborhood watch role. He clearly exceeded his authority in confronting Trayvon Martin unless he saw a crime in progress, which he has not reported that he did. Hence, there is some justice in putting him through some travail, albeit one won't find what he did in confronting Martin listed in the criminal code! He and those he meant to serve would have been far better off standing aside merely to observe.

Further, those who would commit to civil insurrection on the basis of the false information from Sharpton et al. that the government has violated Trayvon Martin's rights to life and liberty when he had committed no crime (until he assaulted Mr. Zimmerman), how far are they from those who would take to violence because of some other continuing usurpations and violations, similar to Waco or Ruby Ridge? It would seem that the principal distinction is the veracity of its basis, which is not as great a distinction as might seem, or does the term "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" mean anything? The people who ARE guilty of a crime are the media and the race hucksters, and that is inciting to riot. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that the town has the financial wherewithal to take on the MSM, nor is it right to expect them to do so. Zimmerman has a clearer case.

If this blows into a full race war, I'm not so sure you are as ready as you think. Do you have three years' food and ammo stored in multiple remote locations? With backup in case that is stolen or destroyed? Do you have provisions for protection, evacuation, and harboring of the innocent? Are you members of a group with a command structure and communications that cannot be infiltrated? Do you have intelligence on your enemy, their supplies, their command structure, their plans and locations?

If you answered 'that's why we have the National Guard' they'll be rather busy given the logistical consequences of a race war. The ports of Los Angeles, San Pedro, Long Beach, Oakland, and Richmond are ALL isolated from their outlets by large black enclaves. Can you imagine the consequences to the rest of the nation's economy should trade from Asia be halted if AQ or Los Zetas take advantage of the said "race war"? They've been putting their logistical supplies in place for decades. Isn't this kind of chaos exactly what Bamster and the left want, a Cloward-Piven meltdown writ large?

You know very well that the less information there is the more the race hucksters can get away with inflaming the situation. Dragging this out and letting the information leak has slowly allowed those who might otherwise riot to lose interest. They are slowly finding that their "innocent young boy" was neither, the "vigilante gun nut" was neither, and the "racist" isn't. Hell, tutored black kids and he's part black himself! The more they learn, the more this won't fly.

Nope, call it "murder" to calm the crowd, leak the evidence while waiting for the trial, and take your lumps when you lose, knowing that the more the information gets out there, the less of a chance of violence there will be.

In many respects, that is exactly what happened in the Duke Lacrosse case, and I'd bet the lawsuits against those charging those young men were far cheaper than a full blown riot might have been. Nor do I think that outcome was lost on Ms. Corey or her superiors.

I'll be out of town for the rest of the week end. So flame away and maybe I'll reply. Or maybe not.

80 posted on 05/18/2012 11:04:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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