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Feds threaten to disrupt summer concerts
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 5/18/12 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 05/18/2012 1:13:56 PM PDT by ColdOne

Lawmakers are scrambling to save the summer concert season from federal agents poised to seize the instruments of rock and country stars because the wood used to make them may have been illegally harvested--and without their knowledge.

“I don’t want the musicians from Nashville who are flying to Canada to perform this summer to worry about the government seizing their guitars,” said Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander.

Alexander, whose state is home to famed Gibson Guitars used by bands and stars like Van Halen, the Allman Brothers, Sheryl Crow, Ted Nugent and Paul McCartney, said Friday that he and Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden are working to protect the artists, their instruments and makers and eventually change the law governing illegal wood harvesting.

“Senator Wyden and I are going to write the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service a letter in the next couple of weeks and try to make it clear that wood harvested before 2008 to make musical instruments can’t be seized by the federal government,” Alexander said in a statement. “The Justice Department and Fish and Wildlife have said they have no intention of doing that, but Sen. Wyden and I are going to make it absolutely clear. We hope to get a clear ruling within a few weeks, and if we can’t get a clear ruling, we’ll introduce legislation to change the Lacey Act.”

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TOPICS: Canada; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; gibson; gibsonguitars; laceyact; summerconcerts; wood
If Gibson hired only Union employees maybe this would all go away?
1 posted on 05/18/2012 1:14:03 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

How long do we continue to tolerate these nation destroyers?


2 posted on 05/18/2012 1:15:46 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ColdOne

The federal administrative laws and regulations applied to Gibson Guitar are the soft underbelly of our Constitution. Under English common law, which serves as the basis for our Constitution, a person is innocent and not subject to the penalties of the law until proved guilty. Under administrative law like Roman civil law a person is subject to its penalties and restrictions until they discover a way to legally extricate themselves.

This country no longer subscribes to the concept that preserving human freedom must be a precondition to any discussion about how or if an activity should be regulated.

Pursuit of happiness first means seeking spiritual prosperity within the hazards and uncertainties of personal freedoms. Politicians and bureaucrats were never meant to care for us by requiring our subservience to rules vastly increasing their power.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 1:17:10 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: ColdOne

omg let ‘em try to seize a guitar player’s axe.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 1:17:25 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I think they should try this with Ted Nugent.


5 posted on 05/18/2012 1:19:09 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ColdOne

These “feds” as they are called may want to rethink who they go after.

Sooner rather than later they will rue the day. And they will deserve it.


6 posted on 05/18/2012 1:20:47 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

Fedzilla is on the hunt for its next meal!


7 posted on 05/18/2012 1:22:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: WKUHilltopper
How long do we continue to tolerate these nation destroyers?

Oh, maybe anther 50 yrs. The zombies are quit controlled as of today & the elites are having a party at control. If the sheeple haven't by now I doubt there will be a force that's strong enough later.

8 posted on 05/18/2012 1:22:50 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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9 posted on 05/18/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Even Madagascar said Gibson did nothing wrong.

FFFFUUUUBBBBOOOO!!!!!!


10 posted on 05/18/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: WKUHilltopper
I have an excellent idea of where we could make some cuts in the Federal workforce.

Let me see, do I feel more threatened by out-of-control spending or guitars made of possibly illegally harvested wood? Decisions, decisions.

11 posted on 05/18/2012 1:27:36 PM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: ColdOne
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. - DOI, 1776
12 posted on 05/18/2012 1:36:27 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: MrB

I went and saw Johnny Winter on Wednesday night.

If some G-man had tried to snatch his guitar there would have been a riot!

A slow-moving, pot-bellied, gray-haired riot but a riot nonetheless!


13 posted on 05/18/2012 1:43:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ColdOne

Can one imagine someone with a zillion dollar Stradivarius violin at a U.S. concert and the Feds steal it because it is made of some protected wood?


14 posted on 05/18/2012 1:47:09 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: MrB
I think they should try this with Ted Nugent.

Tom Morello, the flaming commie from Rage Against the Machine, sometimes plays a Les Paul. It will be interesting to see which artists get harassed and which ones get left alone.

15 posted on 05/18/2012 1:47:08 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: MrB

I’d pay to watch that!


16 posted on 05/18/2012 1:49:55 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
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To: ColdOne
” federal agents poised to seize the instruments of rock and country stars because the wood used to make them may have been illegally harvested—and without their knowledge. “

Ok, I'll say it again. We have overwhelming material and evidence of the huge overreach of all levels of government. A reading of the Declaration of Independence contains things like this that the British were doing.

Where are conservative politicians using this material to totally demolish the liberal nanny state politicians and govt employees dreaming up this CRAP?

17 posted on 05/18/2012 1:55:59 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: ColdOne; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
Lawmakers are scrambling to save the summer concert season from federal agents poised to seize the instruments of rock and country stars because the wood used to make them may have been illegally harvested--and without their knowledge.

This is discrimination because rappers don't use instruments!!!

18 posted on 05/18/2012 1:56:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: WKUHilltopper
How long do we continue to tolerate these nation destroyers?

Our forefathers would be shooting by now.

By letting it get to this point, we have failed.

19 posted on 05/18/2012 1:56:32 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: rogue yam

“A slow-moving, pot-bellied, gray-haired riot but a riot nonetheless!”

Bwaaaa! How true! Several years ago, I, along with well-known guitarist Neil Zaza and famed amp builder Dr. Z, went to a Jeff Beck concert. We were up in the balcony, so we had a good view of the backs of the audiences heads. Lotsa bald spots reflecting the spotlights! Great concert, btw!


20 posted on 05/18/2012 1:59:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ColdOne

Tell established acts like The Who, The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, AC/DC, and even Femi Kuti that the instruments they’ve owned for decades are at risk of being confiscated by customs as they enter the US on tour.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 2:04:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oh, Jeff Beck is one of my all-time favorites dating back to the 1970s! I haven’t seen him live in a long time. I hope he was good.

Johnny was the boss man. He played while seated and looked kind of frail walking out. It took a few songs for him to get warmed up and for the house to get the sound together. But he played a nice long show and by the middle of it he was on fire and sounding great!

After his set he came out with his old Gibson Firebird and did a double encore, Dust My Broom and Highway 61 Revisited. It sounded perfect! Big, loud, clear and just as down and dirty as a man could possibly want!

Johnny still has it for sure! He’s a true living legend!


22 posted on 05/18/2012 2:13:57 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

“I hope he was good.”

Oh he was! “A Day In The Life” was amazing,,, and “Rollin’ and Tumblin’” >> Killer!


23 posted on 05/18/2012 2:21:33 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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24 posted on 05/18/2012 2:28:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ColdOne

Won’t sieze instruments made before 2008? You don’t suppose some of the best tend to keep the best instrument year to year. Yah, the feds will sieze them guitars.


25 posted on 05/18/2012 2:39:44 PM PDT by healy61
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To: ColdOne

Ja, das ist Schadenfreude.

I hope these mostly lefty-leaning musicians are enjoying the guvment’s attention.

Go ahead, vote demonrat again.

The creeps are getting what they deserve.

Wait, I forgot to check! Was this a Semmen’s?


26 posted on 05/18/2012 2:45:15 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: ColdOne
and how many thousands of Gibson's were made BEFORE the wood was declared illegal???

this is such bullsh!t...

27 posted on 05/18/2012 3:00:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: a fool in paradise
To seize instruments and prosecute people for actions which many NOW be illegal, but were not illegal at the time of the so-called crime, is expressly forbidden by the Constitution. Such laws are called “ex post facto” laws and are blatantly illegal.

But our “leaders” don't care about that, do they?

28 posted on 05/18/2012 3:44:16 PM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I sorta think the premise of the article is a stretch. Maybe just PR for some lawmakers.


29 posted on 05/18/2012 4:22:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (they have no god but caesar)
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To: ColdOne

AxeGoebbels and JarrHimmler want a Gibson. Maybe Malia or Sasha want some lessons.


30 posted on 05/18/2012 4:30:21 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ColdOne
“Senator Wyden and I are going to write the U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service a letter in the next couple of weeks..."


31 posted on 05/18/2012 4:37:08 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: a fool in paradise
It was rumored that Alex Lifeson of RUSH was getting his Gibson EDS-1275 double neck out of storage for their upcoming album (and tour). The feds should be careful going after him and his Gibsons, he just might go “Naples” on them.
32 posted on 05/18/2012 4:52:51 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Retain Mike
You know as an ol' timer (68 years and going strong) I can remember hearing about the FBI coming down on organized criminals and the Dept of Justice going after foreign agents spying on us, the ATF busting some hillbilly making moonshine, the ATF going after someone who possessed a machine gun, the DEA breaking up some meth lab or pot field and in the past 20 years or so, the EPA rearing its ugly head.....

....but I'll be damned if we hardly (if ever) heard about the Dept of the Interior, Army Corps of Engineers, Dept of the Agriculture, Bureau of Land Management, Dept. of Energy, Dept of Transportation, Commerce Dept, Dept of Education or least of all, Fish and Wildlife (WHO BTW, JUST HAPPEN TO ALL HAVE THEIR OWN "SWAT TEAMS") taking on a life of their own, with what appears to be a Crusade (that's to drive any Moonbats crazy who happens to be lurking) against honest, hard working folks with no other intentions, than to make everyone's life miserable.

Talk about your Central-Planning, Nanny-Statist, Big-Gubmint, Out-of-Control, Bureaucracies.

I predict that sooner, rather than later, when "we the people" have had enough, there will be a "push back,"" and it ain't gonna' be purty!!!

33 posted on 05/18/2012 5:00:57 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Elect a constitutional sheriff in your county and the federal fascist sheep will never show their pig faces.


34 posted on 05/18/2012 5:31:19 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ColdOne

The Obama thugs aren’t interested in the rappers who might have illegal weaponry or guns....only rockers who might have wood. Obama hasn’t had wood in YEARS so he is naturally jealous.


35 posted on 05/18/2012 5:59:52 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks ColdOne.
...federal agents poised to seize the instruments of rock and country stars because the wood used to make them may have been illegally harvested -- and without their knowledge.
Remember in November.


36 posted on 05/19/2012 5:01:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rogue yam

That was a thought - how many fans, security guards, roadies, entourage members vs. how many feds?

There might not be too much left of the little fellers.


37 posted on 05/19/2012 5:08:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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