Skip to comments.Why Kenyan Birth Claim Was No 'Fact Checking Error'
Posted on 05/18/2012 11:33:25 PM PDT by RobinMasters
No sooner did the literary agency brochure in which Barack Obama was said to be Kenyan-born surface than the media went to work to deep-six it.
"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me - an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, now a named partner in the literary agency, Dystel & Goderich, wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News, which was then picked up ABC News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
This confession rings false to the point of preposterous for any number of reasons. Let us start with the obvious. At the time, 1991, the Acton & Dystel agency listed 90 clients, Obama among its least significant. How likely is it that Goderich would have remembered enough about a 1991 "error" to know it was hers, especially since it went uncorrected through several revisions until changed in 2007? To make this claim credible, there would have to be an existing paper trail leading to an Obama submission in which he lists an Hawaiian birth. I am confident that there is no such submission.
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It will matter to the left and the Dem Party because when 0bozo is gone they will own everything he was including every new revelation.
He and his handlers will be bragging about who they are, what they did and how easy is was to do it.
I hope they do because they will be helping destroy the left and the Dem Party in a big way. They probably will too because there will be good money in it.
There have been several articles, the first one was a long time ago, Canada Free Press which is an excellent site.
If by “credible” you mean “those threatened stated publicly how they had been threatened and by whom”, no.
But if you can find the first CFP article, you will see that media people spoke to or communicated via email (I think there were phone calls too) with the author of the article about threats.
Also after Lou Dobbs brought up 0mugabe’s eligiliby shots were fired into his house, and then he was fired. And the day after Breitbart was killed, Limbaugh received some kind of weird “plaque” commemorating Lincoln’s assassination.
Just a few little things like that. There may be more evidence. But you should really try to find that first CFP article.
Also, as an aside, I have a post that I wrote to you during that whole sad, sorry affair of the threads on the murdered conservative/patriot lady talkshow host in response to your post with the pic of "Western TigersEye"--that I never posted but "saved to draft"--then the thread was pulled just before I went to post it and I was otherwise tied up.
My Crackberry's been acting up--it seems to have a mind of its own and will shut down sometimes (I think it's the interwebs,) when I hit the "post" button. So I've been alternately "saving to draft" some of my longer posts lately as a precaution.
Anyway, I'm going to FReepmail that post to you. I sure appreciate your honorable nature and backbone that always shines through. Thank you for it.
You and all here have a good rest-of-the-weekend. I'm going to mail it then I've gotta run.
@168 “Of course he lurks here, or at least his staffers do. I cant count how many times a story broke on FR, and the next day it was one of Rushs talking points.”
Damn Rush, is that you?
Wow, that is an amazing degradation of a man who created radio as it never existed before. A rock and Roll DJ? Can you do what he does? I bet you never never played rock and roll to you family let alon 20 million people /s
Ron, I believe his real job is to sell Sleep Number Beds and Gold Bars to folks who ALREADY espouse the views about which he speaks.
Ken, I bet you haven't the slightest clue how advertising and audience demographics play in securing ad rates. First you have to have an audience, then you have to hold them. Then you have to demontrate to the advertisers that your audience will, AND is capable of and will purchase your product.
Of course, we tend to stand with those who explain to us what we already believe.
Pehaps you should examine yourself. I listen to Rush because of his prospective, I disagree sometimes but I respect his opinion and listen to his point of view. Conversly, I listen to Rove when he is on the TV. I despise the man but recognize his view is not to be taken lightly.
Where I have a problem, besides Natural Born Citizen issue, and RL's total shutdown of Sheriff Joes inquiry into the validity of the BC, The SS, and the Selective Service issues, is that Right Wing Talk Radio seems to be powerless to make the Conservative Argument to undecided voters. Indeed, it doesn't even seem capable of getting out the "Conservative" vote in urging people to vote for the more conservative of the two parties' candidates.
I would suggest that you, take your talent and showcase them across the nation and attain 20 million listners, then you can put everything you have and have earned knowing that very few will back you up when TSHTF and then I will understand your point.
The phenomenal popularity of "Right Wing Talk Radio," again in in my opinion, is because it is documenting the rise of such grass roots movements as The Tea Party, not leading them.
Huh, "right wing"?
I assume that is really not what you meant to imply but as for the reast of that statement, Conservative talks radio and Rush were available and active long before the Tea Party came about.
Amass an army of listeners as Rush has, then have the guts to put it all on the line.
IOW, put YOUR money, you and your families life the line before you demand others to do it for you!
I thank you very much for those kind words. As for Hitlery; 0baMao is every horrible thing we all think he is but it is very disturbing and incredibly wrong-headed to hear anyone here say that Sec-Cank Clinton is anything other than a die-hard Marxist who was writing papers and establishing cred as one when 0bieWon was still eating dogs in Jakarta.
Even Anti-American Bernie “Progressive” Sanders conceded that one.
Yep..but another poster said what you are attributing to me. :)
Thanks for the Ping.
Yes, that’s quite an outstanding compilation of info at #32. Damning, even.
Did the mods stop giving you a hard time about it, Y?
To my shame, I came late to this party. I only started looking into it when Donald Trump was making noises last spring. One search led to another, and eventually I found FR and was astonished to find that there was actually a forum where the issue was being discussed, and at length with citations of sources of info. After lurking for awhile, I finally signed up in June of 2011 and have enjoyed being a FReeper ever since.
After studying this subject pretty much every day for over a year, I can say with confidence that if you're not a "birther" you're either not paying attention or you have an agenda, and it's not one that is conducive to the health of our founding document.
There should be absolutely NO questions or doubts about the Constitutional eligibility of ANY candidate for the highest office in the land. It is a no-brainer. The Constitution demands it. Those who slough it off as unimportant, for whatever reason, are not only fools but unworthy to call themselves Americans.
If we do not demand that a potential President (let alone someone who has already been elected to that Office with dubious credentials) meet the requirements of our Constitution, then it stands to reason that whoever occupies that Office is going to defy, rather than comply with what that Document states, and to it’s meaning.
And that is exactly what we have been witnessing since 20 January 2009.
Thanks for bringing this up. I don't know where the meme of one's parents having to be NBC came from, but it wasn't from those familiar with the undivided loyalties aspect of NBC. So long as both parentS are citizens, either by birth or naturalization at the time of birth of the presidential aspirant, said aspirant is eligible as a Natural Born Citizen to hold the office of President, so long as they also meet the age and residency requirements.
Rush could destroy the "birther" epithet and start a chain of events to topple this regime in a single broadcast. Can you imagine the "stack of stuff" that could be compiled for a 3-hour show?? What's holding the guy back?
Certain messages delivered on 01 March 2012, perhaps?
Why not start an Open Line Friday show with "I'm not a 'birther,' but. . ." and then let the phone lines burn up?
I've Never said they did, but they both must be citizens at the time of the birth of their child, for that child to be a Natural Born Citizen.
We've now had two usurper presidents.
Nah; they be kidding; right?
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,
"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.
According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parentson the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
Of course !
Instead of reading "...born in Kenya and educated in Indonesia and Hawaii..."
it should read (due to simple error, of course) "...born in Hawaii and educated in Indonesia and Kenya..."
Wait a minute!
GREAT POST! EXCELLENT DOCUMENTATION!
Here is my 2 cents:
Andrew Breitbart left us knowing more than he had time to disclose to us.
What did he know that we need to re-discover, document and publish?
Why are ALL of Obamas important early documents forged?
Where was Obama during his Lost Years?
Why are there so few known Obama childhood friends?
How many of Obamas childhood buddies are still alive?
Was Obama a FOREIGN student at Occidental, Columbia or Harvard?
Who wrote the checks for Obamas education?
Where these question that Andrew Beitbart knew some of the answers to?
To tie the above with some speculative food for thought, please indulge me, (but DO ponder the speculations), as I re-post one of my recently updated comments as follows:
A dictator, such as Obama, only has the power that the people give him.
Currently, at least 40 % of polled American voters are gladly willing to give Obama the necessary power to continue his arrogant dictatorship.
About 47 % of American voters pay NO Personal Federal Income Taxes. These voters are the fair share voter base for Dictator Obama. We, in the 53 %, then are paying this 47 % to vote for Obama by virtue of us paying taxes for ourselves AND them.
In this manner we are supporting the voters who vote for Obama, and they will vote to do so again in November.
Dictator Obama has designed Obamacare to become active only AFTER he is to be re-elected, thus enabling THE NINE SUPREMES to delay ruling on the Constitutionality of the dictate of the individual mandate until Obama is once again the Illegal Foreign White House Occupier, (IFWHO).
The purpose of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack is simple: 1.) Regulate; 2.) Control; and 3.) Destroy. By his own count he has already achieved 60 % of his goals, according to the note he says he carries in his pocket.
Obamas obvious arrogant and deep hatred of America could have only come from what he was taught in his childhood.
Since there are no known networks of childhood friends from Obamas past, Obama was probably a member of a Marxist sleeper cell funded by wealthy men with a Marxist view of the World.
The lack of credible documents that has NOT been forged requires a long-term, highly skilled and well-funded support group.
Who the key members of Obamas probable support group and probable sleeper cell were and are is well known to the Interpol, CIA and the FBI.
Will Citizen Journalists such as Breitbart Editor Joel Pollack be able to out-spy the latter two US tax-funded spy entities?
BTW, forget about the LAM, (Liberal Agenda Media), as they are saving their notes to write their tell-all Obama books after Obama has SAFELY retired back home in Kenya.
BTW, BTW, to all the doubters of the above speculations: what does your gut tell you?
The questions we ask
Are simple to say,
One wonders why they
Were not asked,
Back in the Day?
Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Dictator, (in his own mind), Obama grows louder:
regulate control destroy Regulate control destroy REgulate control destroy REGulate control destroy REGU
P.S. : -
Oh, and feel free to provide links.
Great idea! Thanks!
Unless she crossed the border to Canada for the socialized free birth.
Has anyone looked in Canada for the BC yet?
Stanley Ann flew from Kenya along the Polar route to Vancouver BC. From Vancouver, she took the ferry to Mercer Island, Washington with baby Zer0. IMO.
But-—I believe both parents have to be at least just plain citizens. It is misleading to speak of NBC being the same as plain C. Even the Constitution is explicit in differentiating between the two categories of citizen for national elective office holders.
He has mentioned the INTEREST he and Michelle have paid on 'student loans'.
A LOT of possibilites lurk in THAT statement!
One has to keep an eye on the "slight" change of language to turn the argument from the legitimate to the ridiculous. When the faux requirement of NBC PARENTS is discussed instead of US CITIZENS it dilutes the argument to "Where in the Constitution did it REQUIRE NBC citizen parents?" A question that has one answer, it didn't!
Another popular "laughable" MSM/0b0z0 statement; "birthers are claiming that the president is not a US CITIZEN!" Therefore, NBC is never discussed and to the majority of Americans this is a laughable conspiracy theory!
Communists/Progressives or whatever their name du jour is, Change the language to deceive their peoples.
When it's all said and done, 0b0z0 could be the highest-ranking ILLEGAL ALIEN in the USA!
That's why italics or at least "quotation marks" are our friends, and keep you from looking like a plagiarist.
obama is finished. If he's the demonrat's nominee, he'll lose. There's no way he'll be reelected, regardless of who is running against him.
In fact, I'll be surprised if he's on the ballot.
The only way they keep him is if it looks like he'll raise a LOT of money for them.
That's still possible, but obama is a floater in the toilet bowl and whoever makes obama dance has one hand ready to pull the lever and send obama on his last swirling ride down and out.
Lots of meat to chew through with the obama standard indigestion to follow.
Thanks, Y. Very curious to the point of being damning.
w, s ping.
You can see a little bit of Sr.'s eyes in Mark, but he doesn't have the typical Lao or East African appearance of Sr.
So why would Jr.?
You know it, so stop lying.
As bad as his ineligibility for the presidency is, even worse is the complicit lying that enabled, and continues to enable, this unprecedented, egregious fraud.
I agree. As bad as it is to have an illegal president (and one who hate us and our country) what’s worse is the institutional blindness of the media, political, legislative and judicial segments of our civilization. The emporer has no clothes but armies of PC sycophants of all political persuasions obediently see him dressed in the most fashionable garb of the day.
It is an ongoing nightmare. It makes me willing to accept Romney. He may be a RINO puke, but at least he’s a f*ing American!
Romney will pull a McCain and will never talk about the lying BO POS. However, a Super Pac could do a fabulous ad putting all the lies starting with his birthplace together to run daily in every state.
Fortunately for BO everyone that knows anything about his past-familywise-are all dead. The grandmother death was really strange.
And that is exactly what we have been witnessing since 20 January 2009."
That is a very astute observation, and one that I've made a number of times on this forum. If the guy knows he's ineligible, and he knows that lots of people who could do something about it also know that he's ineligible and yet do nothing about it, he has carte blanche to do pretty much any unconstitutional thing he's of a mind to, and no one will dare stop him.
Truly a MAD doctrine.
Your photos don't provide any compelling evidence that Mark is more Barack Sr.'s son than Barack II is. They could be father and son, but there's no smoking gun there, no obvious indication that they would have to be, or that they were especially likely to be.
I don't know what your theory is, but if it's the Malcolm X one, it's obviously wrong, and insulting to the intelligence in so many ways.
First, cross-racial identifications are always tricky. People fixate on the obvious similarities between people of a different race and don't see the subtler differences.
Second, people are stupefied by the way that one picture of a head of a certain shape and size taken from a certain angle can be morphed into another picture of a head of a similar shape and size taken from the same angle. It's like cats captivated by shiny objects. They aren't examining other likenesses of the two men.
Third, of course a mixed race child may resemble other mixed race people more than the parent of one race or the other. The particular racial characteristics get lost in the mixed. You could as well say that Obama couldn't be Stanley Ann's child because he didn't look much like her.
Fourth, how does an East Coast African-American religious-separatist leader and a White Seattle school girl get together? And why? Surely each of them had more likely and appealing prospects closer to home. People are fixating on Malcolm because he's a well known figure and Obama's imitated him to a degree and letting common sense and probability go out the window.
If you've got some other theory, good for you, but don't give support to a particularly silly one.
look at the pictures, dude- HE looks JUST LIKE Malcolm X
I put a bunch of pictures up on-screen of X and asked my daughters who it was- all three of them said “Obama” (they dont know who Malcolm X is- I wanted a fresh set of eyes)
They see it, I see it, don’t you?
Gee, maybe Burlap Hessian Yomama may have actually been born in ... Kenya? Who knew?
If D&G were the only literary agency left on Earth, I would not deal with them. If they'll lie FOR a client, I can't trust them not to lie TO a client.
I’m sorry beaversmom but i disagree.
Malcom x is obama’s father.
I checked out the old pictures of X on a web page dedicated to him and one picture, since removed, was a dead ringer for obama