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Why Kenyan Birth Claim Was No 'Fact Checking Error'
American Thinker ^ | MAY 18, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 05/18/2012 11:33:25 PM PDT by RobinMasters

No sooner did the literary agency brochure in which Barack Obama was said to be Kenyan-born surface than the media went to work to deep-six it.

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me - an agency assistant at the time," Miriam Goderich, now a named partner in the literary agency, Dystel & Goderich, wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News, which was then picked up ABC News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

This confession rings false to the point of preposterous for any number of reasons. Let us start with the obvious. At the time, 1991, the Acton & Dystel agency listed 90 clients, Obama among its least significant. How likely is it that Goderich would have remembered enough about a 1991 "error" to know it was hers, especially since it went uncorrected through several revisions until changed in 2007? To make this claim credible, there would have to be an existing paper trail leading to an Obama submission in which he lists an Hawaiian birth. I am confident that there is no such submission.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1991; 2007; birthers; hawaii; indonesia; kenya; kenyan; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisafraud; usurper
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To: RobinMasters
First, I am sure Obama provided this information for his bio as most do when a publishing company, PR firm, newspaper, etc. is preparing a release on an individual.

That said...There is something else about this bio that is a bit strange.

It states that Obama was born in Kenya (a country), and then raised in Indonesia (a country) and Hawaii - not a country, but a state in the U.S. Why didn't it say "raised in the United States" as opposed to simply "Hawaii?"

It is a small inconsistency but, IMHO, just another indication that Obama never considered himself a citizen of the United States as a whole. He felt estranged from this country, as many Hawaiians do, in a sense. There is some resentment by some native Hawaiians for the U.S. and, possibly, that also led to strengthening his feeling that that Americans are evil people. Back in the '60's many native Hawaiians felt that the U.S. imposed itself and its government where they were not wanted. Just another reason that, deep down, Obama has never felt any allegiance to this country. He grew up in cultures where the U.S. was mostly characterized in a bad light.

51 posted on 05/19/2012 4:03:40 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: usconservative; RegulatorCountry; All
The very idea that questions regarding the eligibility of a President for office is some sort of “distraction” to be derided and dismissed is just plain weird.
Guess you're not familiar with photoshop, aging paper techniques and seeding documents for misinformation/disinformation campaigns, etc.. etc.. etc..


And you are, eh Sparky?

The fact that you and those like you continue to allow yourselves to be distracted to the point of being useful tools of Obama and Axelrod and their campaign of misinformation, distraction, lies and deceit is just sad.

0bama and Axelrod would be the first to thank YOU for joining them in pissing all over our Constitution by continuing to ignore 0bama's questionable credentials and dubious eligibility.

Once again you and those like you are going to be cannon fodder for the election. I tried telling you, you won't listen. In a few months the media's going to love you for helping them re-elect Obama.

"You tried tell us", just who-TF are you anyway? You think Andrew Breitbart signed up to be 'cannon fodder'? You think that promotional booklet stating that 0bama was born in Kenya was just an editing 'mistake'? That old Communist term of 'useful idiot' applies to you if that is your view.

Have a nice life.

YOU can have a "nice life" and play the ostrich like the rest of the 0bamunist Ministry of Information (aka the lamestream media) but REAL patriots are going to raise holy effin Hell about this, but don't worry: we'll let you know when it's safe to come out from under your bed.
52 posted on 05/19/2012 4:05:59 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: spokeshave

Breaking news......film of actual “clerical error” being made found on U-Tube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291QciJA2Wo


53 posted on 05/19/2012 4:09:16 AM PDT by spokeshave (If Obama is Lenin....who are Trotsky and Stalin...?)
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To: Leep

“Why would they go to such length to cover conceal the truth if it were not damning?”
__________________________________________

Don’t ask me...I am asking the exact same questions.
Maybe Savage is right.
Our two party system is just a scam.
They want it fixed for 8 years Dem, 8 years Repub.
In the meantime, America is sinking into an abyss.
Those that go with the scam all get rich, and bail out when the country goes into the tank.


54 posted on 05/19/2012 4:09:48 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: RegulatorCountry

Someone Needs To ask The Question Over and Over


55 posted on 05/19/2012 4:10:09 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: RobinMasters

Like an onion skin of lies.


56 posted on 05/19/2012 4:13:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: dr_lew

“It’s an incredible development. How can you get around it?”

I suppose there is one way. As mentioned, he was one of their least significant clients at the time. Knowing he lies all the time - and assuming he wanted to get more attention, move up in the roster, he would submit this information to make himself more “exotic” and “interesting” - worthy of more of the agency’s attention. And maybe it IS the information he used to get into Harvard and was only reinforcing his original lie. With him, who knows?


57 posted on 05/19/2012 4:17:54 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: CitizenM

There’s a distinct lawyerly scent associated with claiming to have been born in Hawaii instead of the US, just as there is with claiming to be native born instead of natural born. Relying upon imputed meaning to create an impression but carefully avoiding an actionable claim.


58 posted on 05/19/2012 4:19:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Yaelle; RobinMasters

The pamphlet from the publisher is just one of many. Though the years, until 2007, newspapers in the States and around the world have carried the same “born in Kenya” meme.

Many disappeared as soon as freepers pointed them out. It was a pattern not just a single editors error. They are resurfacing now as people dig into their research files and pass them on to Brietbart/ others.

IS OBAMA LYING NOW OR WAS HE LYING THEN?


59 posted on 05/19/2012 4:25:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: RobinMasters

How would this woman know he was associated with Kenya if she was not told that. Why not Chad, or Nigeria, or Somalia? Wake up people. He was definitely born in Kenya. If not, let him prove otherwise. He cannot or he would have a long time ago, and not spent a fortune in court fees. Anyone who has nothing to hide does this.

This man is not elligable to be president according to the Constitution. There is nobody in a position to question him with the intestinal fortitude to do so, starting with the first person to have a chance, Judge R. Barclay Surrick.


60 posted on 05/19/2012 4:27:40 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: RobinMasters

So Mr. Obama’s ambitions were to become mayor of Chicago and a Kenyon birth was more advantageous for that goal than a Hawaiian birth so he declared himself Kenyon. How do Democrats explain this without sounding dumber than they normally do? I’m thinking that the Democrats need to find a way to send Mr. Obama back to Chicago.


61 posted on 05/19/2012 4:40:36 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (If you mute Obama, you'll have a more accurate view of life in America.)
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To: Yosemitest

There was also a flight from the Mobassa airport (Near train station, port and hospital) through Glascow to Vancouver BC....which is a taxi ride to Seattle.


62 posted on 05/19/2012 4:41:29 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: RobinMasters
From article:

...Dohrn warned that people fighting "Amerikan imperialism" all over the world "look to Amerika's youth to use our strategic position behind enemy lines to join forces in the destruction of the empire."

Sounds like the current group of Obama Czars and youth of occupy movement.

63 posted on 05/19/2012 4:42:55 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: usconservative

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but my FRiend, your comment is...
Hmmm. Disheartening?

What other part of our beloved Constitution would you allow to be destroyed,’and counsel that we look the other way, because the road is too difficult? We have the truth on our side; to look the other way is to shame our forefathers and to belittle their sacrifice, the blood that was shed to forge this nation.

Our house is on fire, man, and it’s arsonist is still using a flamethrower on it and us. Will you tell us it is wise to let him continue for any further amount of time??


64 posted on 05/19/2012 4:46:15 AM PDT by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: RobinMasters

ping


65 posted on 05/19/2012 4:50:07 AM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: usconservative
It is a clear simple example of Obama as a liar, and possibly ineligible. Very easy for a large diverse group of voters to see. Hard for him to spin, like job numbers, blame bush, blame...It matters.

There are many economical reasons not to vote for Elizabeth Warren, she had steady poll numbers. The lying about being an Indian my be her undoing., another simple clear reason to turn voters off

66 posted on 05/19/2012 5:00:49 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: usconservative
The same way Obama's getting around not talking about the economy. Bring up anything else to act as a diversion. This included.

You are making a GREAT point here, but the problem is we are a nation of laws and if we do not adhere to our laws we lose our nation. This matters!

I would say let the "birthers" stay focused on this, and the rest of the nation on the economy. People can deal with two problems at once.

I believe this country knows by now who Obama is and he will be roundly rejected in November. Only the anti-American complete loser idiots and African-Americans will support him only because they "feel" they should.

67 posted on 05/19/2012 5:03:43 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: usconservative
All this proves is that Obama will go to any length to not talk about his record. Bringing the birther issue again helps him do just that, and he gets to re-brand his enemies as nothing more than "birthers."

None of this "birther" stuff is being carried by the MSM including Faux News. So where is the diversion? The MSM is quite free to talk about the economy and jobs if they want. But of course they don't want to do that either.

68 posted on 05/19/2012 5:04:23 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: RobinMasters

Yet, the agency said that it was “likely” Obama had at least checked his own biography.


69 posted on 05/19/2012 5:10:41 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: CitizenM
Good point, according Obama’s stories, he'd did not visit mainland US until a young adult.

Seems he is consistently scolding us (citizens) when publicly speaking, ...like we have been bad people. He is here to parent us and change that

70 posted on 05/19/2012 5:12:01 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: mills044; usconservative

Mills, I agree with you.

usconservative,

The BIG issue is what did he use to get student aid when he was over 21.

If he showed proof of foreign citizenship to get that aid, THIS is what disqualifies him from being president.... doesn’t matter that much in comparison exactly where he was born or who his real daddy was.

Fraud is a crime; obtaining the highest office in the land is a ‘high crime and misdemeanor’.

The constitution calls for impeachment in those cases.


71 posted on 05/19/2012 5:12:15 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Should read ‘fraudulently obtaining the highest office in the land is a ‘’high crime and misdemeanor”


72 posted on 05/19/2012 5:14:02 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: dr_lew
The same way the justice Dept. blatantly break the law they are supposed to uphold and are not held to task. The same way the press can make up a story about Romney 40 years ago and it's held as a fact despite their being factual evidence to the contrary. The same way the press can't even find Obama’s college transcripts.
73 posted on 05/19/2012 5:19:59 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: AlexW

Don’t ask me...I am asking the exact same questions.

I know. I was just piggy backing on what you said.
The idea that Obama steps out of the fog and hardly anyone knows anything about his past and doesn’t question it is mind bending.
One would have to reveal more in a basic job interview than Obama did to become President?
Healthcare look like it was DOA and the next thing you know via some parlimentary voodoo its alive and well?
The leader of the “free” world has not submitted a budget his entire time in office.
Boheyner is ineffective, as is evident the last several years, and should step down and let someone else give it a try.
On and on..nothing adds up.
The idea that obama would not lose in a land slide makes me wander how one lives in a outlaw government without selling out one’s own principles?
The Republicans answer to Obama is Romney..???

Wake me up when the Rebellion starts.


74 posted on 05/19/2012 5:29:43 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: RobinMasters


75 posted on 05/19/2012 5:29:52 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Usagi_yo

“To be a natural born US citizen, both your parents DO NOT have to be natural born US citizens themselves.”

Who has ever said that? They only have to be “CITIZENS” at the time of the birth. Naturalized or Native. Whether they meet the added requirements to be president of “Natural Born” status is irrelevant.


76 posted on 05/19/2012 5:31:47 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: sand88

Boz will pull the trigger and you will be correct...


77 posted on 05/19/2012 5:32:20 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: RobinMasters

78 posted on 05/19/2012 5:36:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: WildHighlander57
The fact is, with the exception of the brochure that was recently "discovered" everything you mentioned has been out in the public eye before.

Notice I'm not arguing the veracity or truthfulness of the claims, or the validity of the argument.

My point is and remains what the American voting public sees before its eyes, and that which it understands.

Simply stated, the birther issue and all the minutia/facts around it will never be fully understood by enough people in this country to gain traction. Period, end of discussion in my book. Just look at Watergate, most people to this day still think it was about the burglary, when it was around much larger Constitutional issues!

Before you ask, YES I think most people lack the intellectual capacity to grasp the issues around where Obama was born it and understand it in the larger context of the Constitutional issues. The evidence that most people don't get it - and never will - is before our eyes, all one has to do is open them and look.

Having said that, what most people WILL understand is that which they see before their very eyes which is an economy made infinitely worse by the current occupant of the White House. Everyone knows someone who's struggling economically, unemployed/underemployed, losing or lost their home.

In short: IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID and that is the sole issue we should be focusing on. People get that because they're living and struggling with it. Most people are NOT better off today than they were 3.5 years ago when Obama took office. That's an economic FACT that people CAN and WILL get their heads around, not the "birther issue."

I'd also say that continuing along the lines of arguing abou the "birther issue" is going to do nothing but make our side look like a bunch of crack-pots and cause us to lose the needed Independent/Conservative leaning voters we need to win.

If you doubt me, look how the media portrayed the birther movement last time around. Why do you think the Independents went for Obama? Hopey-changey bullshit rhetoric aside, we had folks who despite having the best interests of the Country at heart and doing their level best to defend the Constitution, were labled as crack-pots and worse by the media. That portrayal drove many Independents to vote for Obama.

Anyone who doubts that will happen again and only serve to re-elect Obama is absolutely kidding themselves.

I'd also suggest that IMO the entire "birther issue" was started up again as a disinformation/misinformation campaign designed to keep the discussion away from Obama's abysmal economic record. Anyone who's seen Axelrod operate for 20+ years in politics as I have sitting here in Illinois can't help but think he's at the heart of starting up the birther crap again. I saw what he did to Jack Ryan in the Ryan v. Obama Senate race. Axelrod's a master at starting misinformation/disinformation campaigns designed to distract attention and destroy his opponents.

Even Rush Limbaugh is falling for that tactic, he spent more than an hour wasting time on this topic yesterday.

Now again, I'm not calling those who fervently believe Obama's not a citizien and not qualified to be President names. The media's going to take care of that and help Obama win re-election by dividing the country - again.

I think many involved in the birther issue/movement deeply care about the Constitution and the country. I'm not judging their hearts. What I'm simply saying is the issue's been out there before and has failed to gain traction. That's not a damnation of "birthers" or the facts, rather it's a damnation of the stupidity of the American people.

Winning this election means focusing on Obama's FAILED RECORD, period. Focusing on anything else is a distraction designed to get Obama re-elected. Don't fall for it.

Respectfully,
USC.

79 posted on 05/19/2012 5:36:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: beaversmom
And there’s some reason(s) why he won’t release any documents.

He won't release any documents because it benefits him to have people off on wild goose chases rather than focusing on issues that really matter.

80 posted on 05/19/2012 5:46:14 AM PDT by randita
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To: usconservative

You’re more full o’ sh*t than a Christmas turkey.

And 0bama and Axelrod THANK YOU.


81 posted on 05/19/2012 5:46:44 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Leep

“Wake me up when the Rebellion starts.”
__________________________________________

What rebellion? The only rebellion would be if Obozo looses.
As I have pointed out in numerous post, the Marxist have done an excellent job of dumbing down the American population.
They own most all of the media, and most all of education, K thru Grad School.

The Republicans are nothing more then limp wrist today, and it does give credence to what Savage says...8 year Rep., 8 year Dem., but someone did not get the memo..America is sinking into a Communist abyss.


82 posted on 05/19/2012 5:48:45 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: usconservative; WildHighlander57
I'd also suggest that IMO the entire "birther issue" was started up again as a disinformation/misinformation campaign designed to keep the discussion away from Obama's abysmal economic record.

How can that which has never ceased be "started up" again?

83 posted on 05/19/2012 5:54:27 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Yaelle; thecodont

Re: “avalanche” and “legs”...dream on. Sure it will show up on FR, American Thinker, WND, Hot Air, Powerline, et al. But the MSM will simply continue to ignore it. Unless, of course, they finally turn on him, which I think is pretty unlikely.


84 posted on 05/19/2012 5:54:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: thecodont

My thoughts exactly. It is finally starting to hit the tipping point from which there is no return. Problem is: How much will he steal on his way out? When an employee is being fired, they are escorted out and not given access to important “stuff”. Obama is diverting money everywhere by fiat. He just gave the PLO a ton of money that Congress withheld. He must be getting a percentage.


85 posted on 05/19/2012 6:02:36 AM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: spokeshave

Thank you! Before your post, I was about ready to queue the DVD to see what the name was. I was thinking Bottle instead of Buttle but it was Tuttle. Unforgettable movie moment...and Katherine Helmond’s new face installation process.

Let’s see, the clerical mistake was “Kenyan” instead of...”Kenyon”?


86 posted on 05/19/2012 6:03:41 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: mkjessup
You’re more full o’ sh*t than a Christmas turkey.

I didn't know Christmas turkey was supposed to be full of shit. Guess that's how you eat it eh?

87 posted on 05/19/2012 6:13:21 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: philman_36
How can that which has never ceased be "started up" again?

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. When's the last time anyone in the media mentioned the birther issue? It's been what, about a year and a half now hasn't it?

88 posted on 05/19/2012 6:15:05 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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btr


89 posted on 05/19/2012 6:18:39 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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To: RobinMasters

Fact checking errors: yes or no?

“Mistakenly” hugging your wife’s identical twin sister and claiming you thought it was your wife?
Yes.
“Mistakenly” hugging a stripper half the age and half the size of your wife and claiming you thought it was your wife?
No.

“Mistakenly” listing your place of birth as MI (Michigan) when you meant MO (Missouri).
Yes.
“Mistakenly” listing your place of birth as Kenya when you meant Kapi’olani and/or Queens Medical Center, Hawaii.
No.

It’s not hard for an honest person to identify genuine innocent errors. So far, none of Obama’s “errors” sound like mistakes.


90 posted on 05/19/2012 6:19:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 (“A boy becomes a man when a man is needed.” - John Steinbeck)
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To: AlexW
What rebellion? The only rebellion would be if Obozo looses.

What if The Won were to be pulled down by his own party and replaced with (dramatic drums: boom-boom, boom-boom, boom-boom) Hillary Rrrrrrodham Clinton? What a great scenario we have here!


91 posted on 05/19/2012 6:19:27 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: usconservative

Just wondering...

If this topic is as irrelevant as you say, why do you hang out at forums such as these? There are plenty of other discussions going on at FR. Surely you could find one you find worthy.


92 posted on 05/19/2012 6:22:42 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: RobinMasters

Wanted to add,regardless Obama’s eligibility, and his being a minipulating calculating commie punk, he promised to cut the deficit in half. He claimed he would reduce unemployment below 8%.
He spent trillions and there is virtually nothing to show for it.
Even if you except the premise he meant well..HE IS A FAILURE!!!


93 posted on 05/19/2012 6:23:39 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Yosemitest; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...

Article and Post 32


94 posted on 05/19/2012 6:23:56 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: sueQ
I don't 'hang out' on these threads. I posted what I had to say and that's that.

Have a nice day.

95 posted on 05/19/2012 6:25:21 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: arasina

“What if The Won were to be pulled down by his own party and replaced with (dramatic drums: boom-boom, boom-boom, boom-boom) Hillary Rrrrrrodham Clinton? What a great scenario we have here!
____________________________________

Well, yea, but that would happen only if the birther
claim were to prevail.
I just do not see any other way that the Commies will dump
one of their own.
Hitlary is an opportunistic skank, but I doubt that she is a Marxist.
Obumbo will have to be figuratively dead for her to replace him.


96 posted on 05/19/2012 6:27:50 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: usconservative

The constitution be dammed, my money is more important than my God given rights! (s)


97 posted on 05/19/2012 6:30:49 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: RobinMasters
"There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

So why pick Kenya? Why make up a country when you can ask? Why not use Indonesia if your making up stuff? Didn't Obama proof read the bio?

98 posted on 05/19/2012 6:34:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: justrepublican

You’ve completely missed the point of my post. Try again.


99 posted on 05/19/2012 6:39:49 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Yaelle
"Legs. This has to have legs."

Not going to happen my friend. People like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are afraid to really vet obomba. I believe they are in the tank for obomba and much as I hate to say it I am quickly beginning to think they are life members of obomba's ministry of propaganda. Each disseminating whatever information they're told to spread in order to keep American's eyes off the truth. If it weren't for sites like WND, The American Thinker and a few others none of this information would get out. Hannity is only mentioning it because it brings him ratings and, because of his constant droning he repeatedly makes a mockery of the truth.

I hate being manipulated and can spot a manipulator a mile away.

I believe obomba is a Kenyan at best. I believe there is no difference in policy between obomba and romney. I believe we are sooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed and that all hell is about to break loose.

I hope and pray that I am wrong.

100 posted on 05/19/2012 6:41:37 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney (aka - obomney)... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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