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Trayvon Martin Witness Believes 'He Intended for This Kid to Die'
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Posted on 05/19/2012 2:36:59 AM PDT by Java4Jay

News Flash, ABC News runs new story: At 7:11 that night, Zimmerman, a member of the area's neighborhood watch, had called 911 to report a suspicious teenager. Minutes later, the police dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop follwing Martin. Moments later, Zimmerman got out of his car. That's when the two met and Martin was killed... police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 05/19/2012 2:37:00 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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This less than day old story is reporting the time frame all wrong and used ‘police’ in a general term, very much trying to sway public opinion and hate against Zimmerman. F|U ABC.


2 posted on 05/19/2012 2:42:02 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay
A) a police dispatcher is not normally a sworn officer and even if he/she is, they don't have the authority to give a citizen orders over the phone or in person (B) they said “we don't need you to do that” to which Mr. Zimmerman replied “okay” or does ABC have a different transcript of the call than the Sanford Police provided? If so, is it sitting next to the photo of Master Martin as a little 10 year old and the report from the unidentified “neighbor” who said Mr. Zimmerman was a mean, racist bully who barbecued puppies and harassed queers?
3 posted on 05/19/2012 2:45:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Java4Jay

Yet the same witness who BELIEVED that Zimmerman “intended for this kid to die” seems to have had no hesitation about leaving her house, approaching Zimmerman and having a conversation with him. I don’t consider myself a coward, but I’d be darned cautious about approaching anyone who just shot somebody.


4 posted on 05/19/2012 2:46:21 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: Java4Jay

> walked out of her home after hearing the altercation to find Zimmerman standing over Martin’s body

In other words, she saw NOTHING and is forming an opinion after the fact. The other witnesses in the story confirm what Zimmerman said.


5 posted on 05/19/2012 2:47:27 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Anyone But Romney)
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To: BinaryBoy

And here’s another ABC run reporting the same misguided information with Diane Sawyer.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-witness-believes-intended-kid-die/story?id=16380864

Total BS


6 posted on 05/19/2012 2:52:35 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay
At 7:11 Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious teenager. Minutes later the police dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop follwing Martin then Zimmerman got out of his car. That's when the two met and Martin was killed... police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher. Oh really ABC, are these the FACTS?
7 posted on 05/19/2012 2:58:19 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay
police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher only Trayvon's father had worn a condom or if his other had not put out that night.
8 posted on 05/19/2012 3:06:02 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: Java4Jay
They did a poll of 420 newsrooms, 350 civil rights offices, 278 SEIU locals, the Justice Department HQ, 193 ACORN branches and 300 faculty lounges and that was the consensus. Who are you or I to question their facts?
9 posted on 05/19/2012 3:08:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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I thought GZ was already out of the car and was out walking, following the suspicious character. That is when the dispatcher told GZ that he didn't need to do that. GZ said OK and was heading back to his car, had lost sight of TM, and that is when TM confronted GZ. Is that correct?
10 posted on 05/19/2012 3:12:42 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(C) He had already left the vehicle when he was told, “we don’t need you to do that”, and he replied, “Ok”... unlike this “report”.. (D) He didn’t call 911, he had called dispatch, like he was trained/told to do...

And so much more Pravda from the press...


11 posted on 05/19/2012 3:12:48 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist or Patriot)
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To: Java4Jay

avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher.

Right then wait 20 minutes for police to arrive, Martin wouldnt have been shot if he wasn’t on drugs and attacked Zimmerman from behind either.


12 posted on 05/19/2012 3:15:45 AM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: Java4Jay
This “witness” better make sure that she doesn't infringe on any of The Amazing Kreskin’s copyrighted acts since she's such a mind reader.
13 posted on 05/19/2012 3:27:02 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Java4Jay

The didpatcher didn’t tell Zimmerman not to follow until after he was out of his car. He agreed and said he would meet police at the community mailboxes instead of his house because he could no longer see Martin, and didn’t want to be followed home. That’s on the dispatcher tape, More lies.


14 posted on 05/19/2012 3:29:08 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: Java4Jay

He wouldn’t have died had he not attacked Zimmerman.


15 posted on 05/19/2012 3:47:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Java4Jay
Minutes later, the police dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop follwing Martin. Moments later, Zimmerman got out of his car. That's when the two met and Martin was killed... police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher.

The police dispatcher did NOT "tell Z to stop following Martin" and was NOT "directed to do so."

This FALSE narrative has become the accepted (and repeated) version of what transpired, but for those who understand the common usage of the English language realize there is a major difference between an "ORDER" and a "SUGGESTION," such as what the dispatcher actually relayed to Z, to whit: "OK we don't need you to do that."

16 posted on 05/19/2012 3:49:11 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Java4Jay
She walked out of her home after hearing the altercation to find Zimmerman standing over Martin’s body

Did not view actual event happening.

Still can determine motivations.


17 posted on 05/19/2012 3:49:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: Java4Jay

To follow the logic, rapes on jogging trails could be completely avoided, if women would just stay at home.


18 posted on 05/19/2012 3:56:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: BinaryBoy
"In other words, she saw NOTHING and is forming an opinion after the fact"

The strategic and purposeful use of the word "Witness", here, is to sway pulic opinion only, as she did not "Witness" the event, but merely can be Called as a legal "Witness" to what she SAW or HEARD, not having ANY knowledge of the altercation (the beating of Zimmerman and his use of force to save his life).

The complicit State-Run-Media is ALWAYS being instructed on how to phrase "News" to forward an Agenda....ALWAYS.

19 posted on 05/19/2012 3:59:00 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Java4Jay

Note that this was ABC News.


20 posted on 05/19/2012 4:13:45 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought that the police dispatcher asked Mr. Zimmerman the address of his location and he left his vehicle to read a house address?

Clearly the ABC story distorts the facts to the point of outright fabrication.


21 posted on 05/19/2012 4:14:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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Hey Sampleman, and we would never be involved in an auto accident if we just stayed at home.


22 posted on 05/19/2012 4:16:28 AM PDT by Parawan ("These are Times that Try men's souls." Tom Payne Dec. 23, 1776)
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To: Java4Jay
"Trayvon Martin Witness Believes 'He Intended for This Kid to Die'"

This "witness" totally discredits herself with the following "If you're in self defense,shoot him in the leg. He's a 17-year-old, scrawny little kid ... I think the kid was running for help."

She saw nothing, yet she's more than willing to assume Martin was running for help when shot, and self-defense only required/allowed a shot in the leg.

ABC knows this "witness" witnessed nothing and is totally worthless for anything other than stilling up the anti-white mob with such a headline.

23 posted on 05/19/2012 4:21:08 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Java4Jay
CORRECTION:

"other than stilling up" = "other than stirring up"

24 posted on 05/19/2012 4:25:38 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Java4Jay

He headed back to his car after the operator told him to. He didn’t get out of the car AFTER.


25 posted on 05/19/2012 4:29:17 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Java4Jay

ABC is so in the tank...this “witness” saw nothing. She offered an opinion without having any facts. That’s called making things up.


26 posted on 05/19/2012 4:33:14 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: BinaryBoy

“....then Zimmerman saw Bigfoot and shot him without warning. Four seconds later, then an alien landing craft settled into a parking spot twelve feet away. Then Hulk Hogan announced his retirement from wrestling for the 16th time.”

When TV journalist say it....it has to all be true.


27 posted on 05/19/2012 4:34:05 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Java4Jay

looks like George is stuck with some less than impartial witnesses, part of the lynch mob.


28 posted on 05/19/2012 4:34:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Java4Jay

Article makes you want to puke. The theme is Zimmerman dared, 30 seconds after being beat up, to act like he had a hard time that night, he did not fall to the ground weeping and begging forgiveness from Al Sharpton. Also, someone not a witness thought Z should have shot M in the leg. Well now, that seals it.


29 posted on 05/19/2012 4:37:20 AM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: BinaryBoy
If she is black she might just say what she is expected to say.

This racial crap is going to set this nation on fire, and it isn't white racism causing the problem.

30 posted on 05/19/2012 4:37:53 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Java4Jay

This story has revealed how easily so many lie to further their agenda.


31 posted on 05/19/2012 4:38:10 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Reporters never let facts get in the way of a good crucifixion.

Look what they did to Manny.


32 posted on 05/19/2012 4:43:12 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Java4Jay

Years ago worked at a law firm where others were representing death row inmates. I read about one in the NYT. Story said the poor black was convicted by an “all white jury” and even worse, the guy he knifed was the richest most prominent white guy in town (Virginia). You read that stuff and actually think maybe something was wrong.

So I read the Virginia paper. Victim was an upstanding family man. Murderer stabbed him and left him to die. Was caught at the next gas station fueling up victim’s car. Family of victim had been through this for 30 years after the killing, it devastated them all and they felt like it kept happening to them year after year.

Then I realized how truly evil the liberal reporting is. You can read these stories every week and all you learn is “white” and “black”.


33 posted on 05/19/2012 4:48:12 AM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Java4Jay

If he intended for Trevon to die, why did he let him use his head for a pinata first?


34 posted on 05/19/2012 4:57:00 AM PDT by Crucial
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IF this person was in fact a witness they have already shown they are prejudical by suggesting they know what the man was thinking. You won’t see this idiot on the stand.

Mel


35 posted on 05/19/2012 5:06:56 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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Last I heard, a seventeen year old was legally a minor child, not to be left unattended for some undetermined length of time for a tryst with one’s girlfriend. Add to the mix that this was a troubled seventeen year old, and the absence of Tracy Martin becomes even more irresponsible. The reason he was even in Sanford, FL instead of back home hours south of there in Miami Gardens is because they wanted to keep him away from his “friends” while he was on suspension from school.

Sounds like his friends were trouble. Sounds like both Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin feared their son Trayvon getting into more trouble. Sounds like those fears were well justified.

So, where was Tracy Martin, why did he leave his troubled minor son at home alone, and how long was he away? All night would be a good guess, since he didn't know a major crime scene existed a couple hundred yards away from his girlfriend's condo, and didn't even know where his son was.

36 posted on 05/19/2012 5:09:23 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Too late. The stories out there, and some people will swear up and down that it’s true, even if it’s not. All we can do is try to correct the record.

So if you see someone suspicious in your neighborhood, it’s all right for them to attack you. But if you shoot them, you’ll be charged with murder, and every detail of your past will be culled to prove you’re racist.

What if, instead of Trayvon Martin, it was a white man who got shot? Zimmerman would be a free man now.


37 posted on 05/19/2012 5:12:02 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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Zimmerman will be exonerated when the jury hears the facts and realizes the he did nothing but kill a thug in self defense!!


38 posted on 05/19/2012 5:12:09 AM PDT by ontap
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Zimmerman got out of his car. That's when the two met and Martin was killed... police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher.

Clairvoyant evidence?

39 posted on 05/19/2012 5:13:55 AM PDT by chainsaw (Sarah Palin is still my first choice to save the USA. . .)
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To: melsec
The people who matter will never hear this so called witness. Any competent lawyer can expose this for what it is and probably turn it around as an example of the political left wing media's bias!!
40 posted on 05/19/2012 5:15:18 AM PDT by ontap
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Trayvon Martin Witness Believes 'He Intended for This Kid to Die'

Well, duh. If you believe you're in danger of losing your life, you have to shoot to kill. That same witness suggested Zimmerman could have shot Trayvon "in the leg." And if he had hit the femoral artery, Trayvon would have died only a few minutes later than getting hit directly in the heart. Oh, well, in the arm? Same goes for the brachial artery. Gut shot? He could hit the aorta with the same result. And we all know if someone is wounded he will immediately sit down and stop being aggressive. Uh huh. The reason cops shoot to kill assailants who refuse to stand down is because wounded assailants can still pose a deadly threat. That's not because they are cops. That's because of the nature of the situation. The same holds for anyone else.
41 posted on 05/19/2012 5:22:40 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

> The police dispatcher did NOT “tell Z to stop following Martin” and was NOT “directed to do so.”

Important point. ‘Tell Z to stop’ and ‘directed to do so’ imply that he said ‘Stop’, ‘I order you to stop’, ‘I’m telling you to stop’, ‘my instructions are to stop’ — some kind of direct command (which some persons here say would have no legal authority coming from the dispatcher anyway). What was actually said was “OK, we don’t need you to do that [keep following him].” Zimmerman did more than what the dispatcher thought was needed, yes, but that’s not the same as disobeying an order not to do it.

Though it turned out badly, the criminal act wasn’t Zimmerman trying to keep Martin in sight. It was Martin attacking Zimmerman. Of the many things that went into producing that effect at that moment, it was the most important, and in my opinion the only criminal act.


42 posted on 05/19/2012 5:29:49 AM PDT by GJones2 (Zimmerman told to stop?)
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That same witness suggested Zimmerman could have shot Trayvon "in the leg."

"If you don't stop beating me so I can shoot you in the leg, I'll kill you."

43 posted on 05/19/2012 5:30:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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...police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car

"Police say..." I think that is just a plain LIE.

44 posted on 05/19/2012 5:31:22 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Java4Jay
That's when the two met and Martin was killed... police say could have been avoided if he did not leave his car as directed by the 911 dispatcher.

The dispatcher said nothing about not exiting his car. It appears that Zimmerman was already on foot and following when the dispatcher asked if he was following, heard the affirmative, and then said that they really didn't need for him to do that. It appears that is when Zimmerman lost sight of Martin, in other words, was no longer following him, and started to return to his vehicle.
45 posted on 05/19/2012 5:32:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Java4Jay
A genda
B efore
C ountry
46 posted on 05/19/2012 5:33:30 AM PDT by tomkat (:^)
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To: Java4Jay
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47 posted on 05/19/2012 5:39:59 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: drpix
She thinks the kid was running for help?!

When he got shot he was running for help?

Wouldn't he have a bullet in his back if he was running for help when he was shot?

"The kid" was shot in the chest. At close range.

Yeah, this broad needs to go on the stand as a prosecution witness. I'd love to see her eyewitness testimony ripped to shreds.

Good God, Almighty!

48 posted on 05/19/2012 5:46:37 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"So, where was Tracy Martin, why did he leave his troubled minor son at home alone, and how long was he away?"

According to the Medical Examiner's autopsy, both THC and THC-COOH* were found in Martin's blood. [ Link to 183-page PDF file of evidence ]

Having both in his blood means Martin was getting high both before AND after the last 4 hours of his life (ALL DAY).

[ *The THC is the active chemical found in marijuana which stays in the blood for only 4 hrs after smoking. THC-COOH (carboxy) is the chemical left in the blood after the THC is metabolized by the body. ]

49 posted on 05/19/2012 5:46:54 AM PDT by drpix
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50 posted on 05/19/2012 5:52:04 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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