Skip to comments.Breakthrough on eligibility story
Posted on 05/19/2012 9:29:10 AM PDT by James Thomas
Congratulations to Breitbart.com for reporting a story the site clearly didnt care to publish. It seems that in 1991, Barack Obama was indeed representing himself to his literary agency as born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.
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It seems to me you can't recognize when a glass is "topped".
Here ya go...
Trolls and anti-trolls
“You scoff at everything, not just some things”
No, I don’t. I do have a history of scoffing at birthers in particular, but that’s because I think birtherism is wrong. I’ve sat through you scoffing at me an awful lot on this thread, and can assume you spend a lot of time shooting down Obama and his supporters. Am I free based on that to assume you scoff at everything, are undiscriminating, and therefore need not listen to you?
I see a pattern here. Everyone who disagrees with you is a dissembler if not outright liar, merely a scoffer, and worst of all an undiscriminating scoffer. It must get tiring, being the only one with an honest opinion and the only one who argues correctly.
“You are listless, having no rudder in the water, and you steer no course at all while urging others to drift about as aimlessly as you.”
Uh, what? You’ve already admitted I’m constitent. Consistently disengenuous, or something, but consistent nonetheless. Before I was secret anti-birther who buries the lead (all the while explicitly going after birthers, making it plain as day I disagree with them, and never denying but outright admitting the lead I supposedly buried is in fact what I’m getting at). Now I’m not a secret anything, I guess, but a wandering arguer tied to no position, attacking birthers for four years as the result of a game of chance decided by a random number generator, or something.
A sailboat with no wind or rudder is a consistent thing. Consistently adrift.
You can't lie to the crew that there's wind in the sail when they can see for themselves that the sails are slack.
“Who is saying that it is the smoking gun?”
Finally, at long last, we get to what I originally bothered posting about. No more concerning my ineligibility to post based on being a crypto-anti-birther troll.
Well, to begin with, editor-surveyor, who on this very thread said, “When it comes to Obamas birth fraud, every thing is a smoking gun Troll.” But nevermind. I realize you don’t actually think it is the smoking gun, just that birthers tend to act that way. It’s an exaggeration on my part, but not by far. Merely referring to it as a “breaktrhrough,” though I realize is aimed at getting hits, is overdoing it. In a couple of days the new revelation gets added on the pile, to be of no greater significance than stonewalling in the courts, the 57 states thing, Bill Richardson speaking out of turn, etc.
But in the meantime it’s all hosannas and glory of glories, now no one can deny us and we will carry the day! I heard someone say that about some random quote they dredged up from Tom Paine about how English common law doesn’t necessarily apply in America. Seriously, they literally said now no one will be able to ignore us, or somesuch thing.
Ask any outsider to a conspiracy club, and they’ll tell you this is one of the most annoying things about them. Heck, it doesn’t have to about conspiracy nuts; this applies to all insulated groups. They inevitably have a much higher opinion of things that may or may not confirm what they’re looking to be confirmed. What would you say to a Truther who said, upon hearing jet fuel may not burn hot enough on its own to turn steel into liquid, “Aha! That’s it! now no one can deny the Truth.”
It may be to their advantage, in that non-truthers have to explain it away. But it’s no smoking gun, and it no doubt could be explained away. Birthers likewise habitually overplay their hand, in my opinion. That was my point.
“The only one I even see implying such a thing is you.”
You’re not looking closely enough. Birthers veritably exploded when this “breakthrough” hit.
“It seems to me you can’t recognize when a glass is ‘topped’”
What topped it, this “breakthrough”? Ah, then it is the “smoking gun,” and you owe me a correction. If the cup already was overflowing, why would this be worth mentioning? Who cares, case closed, let’s go home. If the case isn’t closed, and the cup hasn’t been topped, why are you posting a picture of it? that sounds like premature declaration of victory, which is exactly what I originally posted to counteract.
... nor can you possibly explain away his Senatorial campaign claiming his Keynan birthplace.
This is the first I have heard of this. Do you have a reference?
Mr. obama has brought this all upon himself by sealing ALL his records pal.
Is there a Ms. Warren past? Homosexuality? Why ALL the disassociation with his past?
There is something there he does not want us to see.
whether that be not eligable or whatever, there is something there he doesn’t want us to see.
“A sailboat with no wind or rudder is a consistent thing. Consistently adrift.”
That’s pure sophistry, and in my opinion beneath your dignity. Either I’ve been consistent or I’m adrift; you can’t have it both ways. If for four years I’ve been consistently anti-birther, your sailboat metaphor is inapt.
“You can’t lie to the crew that there’s wind in the sail when they can see for themselves that the sails are slack.”
Now you’re mixing metaphors. Before I had no rudder and was therefore adrift, now I’m without wind and lack impetus? It could very well be both, but why bring that up now? I might have thought you were building an argument, not just piling things on willy-nilly. What’s next, my hull is breached, the captain has scurvy, and a storm’s a brewin’? You’ve lost course yourself, it seems.
This bugs me so I’m gonna stay on it. If by arguing I have no rudder and am adrift you didn’t mean to apply I was inconsistent, what did it mean? What was the point of bringing it up? What are you getting at?
So how does one break such devastating news when you find Obama previously described himself as Kenyan-born?
You do it by distancing yourself from some imaginary birther narrative and determining for your audience what it really means Obama didnt tell the truth to his literary agent.
Talk about burying the lead!
“I think about that CEO of what was it, some high flying California web firm, who got deposed because he had listed the wrong school in his resume?”
Companies usually have a policy, which they make plain to applicants, that lying on a resume or in interviews can be grounds for termination. There is no such policy for the U.S. saying that if at some point in the past you or your literary agent lied about your past to sell your memoirs, it is grounds for termination.
Link? Did Nixon lie under oath, to a grand jury, or on a college application (which would have been a crime for Nixon or for the one you keep defending)? Or did Nixon lie on television? Is that a crime? Or did Nixon lie when he met Elvis? I would, but I only met Elvis' uncle and Sam Phillips' son.
(Don't bother, I won't engage in an multi-hour back-and-forth with you.)
“Link? Did Nixon lie under oath, to a grand jury, or on a college application (which would have been a crime for Nixon or for the one you keep defending)? Or did Nixon lie on television? Is that a crime? Or did Nixon lie when he met Elvis? I would, but I only met Elvis’ uncle and Sam Phillips’ son.”
Alright, you got me, let’s say obstructing justice, rather than lying persay. He was guilty of obstructing justice, I think you must agree. That’s why he resigned, and that’s why he was pardoned. Not that other presidents haven’t been guilty of the same thing, but he was.
Pigs and chickens are “raised”.
Humans (at least, civilized ones) are “REARED”.
It’s VERY possible that Obama has been “REARED” in multiple continents.
[fingers in ears] La, la la, I cant hear you, la, la, la...
Nurse....Nurse....We need a sedative over here!
Tublecane ,you need to get your head out obamies ass ,so you can see the real world
You are ignoring that it was a ginned up public uproar that got the CEO booted. Not the company now having doubts about his competency.
Tubledude, are you new to the internet? Headline News crawls? Drudge sirens? "Breaking News" sidebar?
Um, every new story is famous for 15 minutes in the 21st century, not just BO BC stories. fyi.
Saw that...Have you read LS’s book. Lot on insight and patterns on how the OBOT’s treat those they are trying to discredit.
It was all over the web and on AP’s site for the longest time. About 3 months ago I did a search for it and only found one AP reference. Sadly that is gone. However, doing a search today shows a bunch of hits for how this scum of the earth got Ryan to drop out of the race using sealed court records about his divorce. I guess a hit piece on Ryan was more important to the AP than their own coverage of his Kenyan birth.
I know for a fact that I saw an interview on one of the alphabet networks during his campaign highlighting his meteoric rise in the dumbocrap party and his Kenyan birth. I doubt that network would make that interview available.
Given how the media is free to just not report things or take them down when it does not serve their communist agenda it is hard to know what it true. I have more faith that we live in the Matrix than I do in our media outlets version of things.