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Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth
My Fox Phoenix.Com ^ | 5/19/2012 | Joshua Wisch

Posted on 05/19/2012 9:35:37 AM PDT by Elderberry

OBAMA-ARIZONA BALLOT

Hawaii to Ariz.: Prove need to verify Obama birth

PHOENIX (AP) - The attorney general's office in Hawaii is telling Arizona's secretary of state that if he wants confirmation of President Barack Obama's birth records, he'll have to prove he legitimately needs it.

Special Assistant Joshua Wisch said late Friday that Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett hasn't done that despite numerous email and phone exchanges between their offices.

Wisch says Hawaii state laws require Bennett to show legal authority that this office needs the records to update its official lists as part of its ordinary work.

Wisch says as soon as Bennett gives Hawaii adequate authority, the Aloha State will verify Obama's birth.

Bennett said in a radio interview this week that Obama's status on Arizona's ballot is in question unless Hawaii verifies his birthplace.

Hawaii officials have confirmed multiple times that Obama was born there.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2scary4words; 2suspicious4words; birthcertificate; coverup; eligibility; hawaii; illegalalien; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: kabar
1. A vague Hawaii statement like "Dear Mr. Bennett: Yes, we have President Obama's birth certificate in our possession" really doesn't tell us whether or not Obama was born at Kapiolani hospital in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961.

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The Hawaiian official who puts his/her name on that statement now becomes legally liable for any subsequent criminal investigations. Arpaio's Cold Case Posse investigation could then pursue that in their investigation of forgery or any other misrepresentaton.

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I hope that you are right.

181 posted on 05/20/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
This is mirse. I'm sorry, but I don't understand your statement above as it applies to the verification that Bennett is asking for.

Are you saying that all that Bennett is asking for is to see a copy of Obama's Hawaii driver's license?

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This is mirse. Sorry for the double post. I don't know what happened.

182 posted on 05/20/2012 10:35:05 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Elderberry

“The attorney general’s office in Hawaii is telling Arizona’s secretary of state that if he wants confirmation of President Barack Obama’s birth records, he’ll have to prove he legitimately needs it.”

Simple response, don’t furnish requested records - Obama will not be on Arizona ballot in November.

It is time for every state to follow the lead Arizona is giving us...on immigration and on ‘natural born’.


183 posted on 05/20/2012 10:36:13 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Elderberry

Father Of Communist China ‘Sun Yat-Sen’ & Obama, Received Hawaii’s COLB.

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/01/22/father-of-communist-china-sun-yat-sen-obama-received-hawaiis-colb/

I’ll never believe Hawaii in any statement that he was born there. Show the proof! Microfiche from the archives and documentation (not copies) of his mothers birth records at the hospital. The hospital listed on his Birth certificate did not exist back in 1961. It went by a different name.

The name of the Hospital Obama was supposedly born at should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital until 1978. It did not go by the name of Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital back in 1961, so why is it listed on his Certificate of Live Birth. That’s a change we can’t believe in. ;)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


184 posted on 05/20/2012 11:35:49 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: butterdezillion

I’ve been out of the loop on this topic: Has someone SEEN another example of the HDOH stamping documents with the word “TXE” instead of “THE”? Do you have a link?


185 posted on 05/20/2012 11:47:24 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: bitt
RE: "to #168
read the whole thread. I know, I know,... :)"
Perhaps Butter's request shall be fruitful. Butthead from Atlanta sure set the stage for Rather to get the boot.
186 posted on 05/20/2012 1:00:57 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Elderberry

Obama should provide proof of identity, but he hasn’t. Bennett is trying to help Obama and is going the extra mile, asking Hawaii for records.

Hawaii is acting in bad faith and is denying Bennett’s request.

Bennett did all he could do. Without proof of ID there is simply no way he can allow Obama’s name on the ballot. Bennett went the extra mile on Obama’s behalf. What more is he supposed to do?

Hawaii’s denial forces Arizona to disallow Obama’s name on any ballot.

Obama has only himself to blame.

No proof, no ballot.


187 posted on 05/20/2012 1:50:58 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: wistful

would you mind placing a link to that article here on FR and pinging me to it.


188 posted on 05/20/2012 3:27:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Elderberry

Eff Hawaii, let them become China’s latest province.They’d fit right in. Liberal fascists administrations stick together to subvert the law of a free people in order to enslave us all.


189 posted on 05/20/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info....http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: butterdezillion

How can a press conference held at the WH in D.C. violate an AZ law? Sheriff Joe has jurisdiction over Maricopa County in AZ not D.C.


190 posted on 05/20/2012 3:55:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: butterdezillion; melancholy; Las Vegas Ron

Interesting that there is even a question about why showing a forged birth certificate has nothing to do with voters in AZ who may not want to vote for a fraud.


191 posted on 05/20/2012 4:01:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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Or rather, why a display of a forged b.c. should bother AZ voters, would be a better way to re-state it.


192 posted on 05/20/2012 4:08:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If a fraudulent BC was created in Virginia and somebody attempted to use it in Maricopa County, would that fraud fall within Sheriff Joe’s jurisdiction - since it was fraudulently presented to residents in Maricopa County?


193 posted on 05/20/2012 5:04:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

That was my original point. If Obama didn’t formally submit the LFBC to AZ election officials, I don’t see where Sheriff Joe has jurisdiction to bring charges. He can certainly investigate but he has to specify which AZ laws were broken in order to bring charges. IANAL though.


194 posted on 05/20/2012 5:14:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: butterdezillion

IIRC, Obama signed an election form for AZ indicating that he qualified under the Constitution for the office of POTUS. Perhaps Sheriff Joe is seeking perjury charges for falsely swearing to the information contained in the document? I really don’t know, but presenting a fraudulent document in a WH press conference doesn’t violate any AZ laws of which I am aware.


195 posted on 05/20/2012 5:24:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Arizona doesn’t have any election fraud laws? Or perjury laws?

The fraudulent act took place in DC. But the people were defrauded in Maricopa County, AZ. TV stations in Maricopa County, AZ were used to present to AZ residents a fraudulent claim about a vital record. Obama stood at that press conference for the specific purpose of having his fraudulent claims aired in the whole country, including Maricopa County, AZ.


196 posted on 05/20/2012 5:36:08 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Arizona must have a law that forbids the presenting of fraudulent information under the color of an official position. Especially presenting under the authority of an official position a fraudulent VITAL RECORD. Isn’t that what document fraud is?

Does anybody know where to find Arizona’s laws on document fraud?


197 posted on 05/20/2012 5:40:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I don’t know, but I will look up AZ election laws to see what I can find. Did Sheriff Joe state the basis for his criminal investigation? I haven’t paid close attention to it.


198 posted on 05/20/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: butterdezillion

Since Obama didn’t submit the LFBC to AZ election officials, I would guess that any fraud committed would be “made by public statements.” Perhaps we could start there to research which AZ law is relevant.


199 posted on 05/20/2012 5:52:27 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Squantos

Exactly, Squantos. Make Bozo sue to get on the ballot. Checkmate.


200 posted on 05/20/2012 7:12:29 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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